This is how trumps America appears to the rest of the world.

HAF2

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If you don't think you should have the power to force your agenda on people, what do you call voting ? Isn't it your hope that your vote will do that ?

I don't have a country in the political sense, I'm waiting by the phone constantly for my best offer from any of them. We're free to do that right? Chose who we affiliate with on a voluntary basis rather than on the basis of which piece of dirt our mother was on when she delivered?


Panarchy!!!
Yes I vote. That’s forcing my will on others? So the “others” voting is them forcing their will on me, by the same logic? If each persons vote counts as 1, then their vote would be deducted from my vote (or vice versa):
1 - 1 = 0
Thus cancelling each other out. No forcing of will at all, in my opinion.
 

schuylaar

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I'm all for symbolic gestures, but in this case you'd simply be punishing the American people, not Trump. Please remember that the majority of Americans rejected Trump's hellish vision of America.
I disagree 'they' need to know the world doesn't approve.

I heard Sean Spicer say today how Trump has the support from the majority of Anericans with all his EO's.

That's a fucking lie.

Until 'they' stop this, a message needs to be sent.
 

Rob Roy

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Yes I vote. That’s forcing my will on others? So the “others” voting is them forcing their will on me, by the same logic? If each persons vote counts as 1, then their vote would be deducted from my vote (or vice versa):
1 - 1 = 0
Thus cancelling each other out. No forcing of will at all, in my opinion.


You did not calculate other possibilities beyond the scope of what is or what you think is all there is. Venturing into the "what could be" can sometimes provide answers not contemplated.

When your group wins, you oppress the losers ability to have what they want.

When their group wins they oppress your ability to have what you want.

Are other ways possible that allow BOTH parties the freedom to seek their own way peacefully? I think there are.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
If you don't think you should have the power to force your agenda on people, what do you call voting ? Isn't it your hope that your vote will do that ?

I don't have a country in the political sense, I'm waiting by the phone constantly for my best offer from any of them. We're free to do that right? Chose who we affiliate with on a voluntary basis rather than on the basis of which piece of dirt our mother was on when she delivered?


Panarchy!!!
Your vote is your voice, freak..which you are entitled to until the EC comes along and overrides the will of the people by taking an unpopular mentally ill man and putting him in charge of our nuclear stockpile.
 

Rob Roy

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Your vote is your voice, freak..which you are entitled to until the EC comes along and overrides the will of the people.

Oh dear. I know hot flashes and irritability are common for a woman your age, but please contain yourself.

If your vote is your voice, and the minority vote never has a say...are you advocating systemic discrimination against a minority ?
 

Big_Lou

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If we were sea otters then we’d probably all get along better.
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You don't wanna get along with him....he's a creepy throwback/pseudo-nationalist that advocates pedophilia......

Oh dear. I know hot flashes and irritability are common for a woman your age
.....And a VERY rude & utterly tactless lowlife, as well. I blame a combination of micropenis and raging alcoholism.
 

HAF2

Well-Known Member
You don't wanna get along with him....he's a creepy throwback/pseudo-nationalist that advocates pedophilia......



.....And a VERY rude & utterly tactless lowlife, as well. I blame a combination of micropenis and raging alcoholism.
Oh don't worry, I don't put much stock into the political views of someone tearing down the system when they are unwilling to be an active participant.
That would be like taking financial advice from someone that has declared bankruptcy 6 times...oh shit.
 

Rob Roy

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You don't wanna get along with him....he's a creepy throwback/pseudo-nationalist that advocates pedophilia......



.....And a VERY rude & utterly tactless lowlife, as well. I blame a combination of micropenis and raging alcoholism.

I am flattered that you have spent time contemplating my penis, no I don't want to watch you "stroke your guitar" or "shoot your gun" and for the last time I don't want to see any of these selfies you keep sending me.

Oh and please Lou, get a haircut!

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schuylaar

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Oh dear. I know hot flashes and irritability are common for a woman your age, but please contain yourself.

If your vote is your voice, and the minority vote never has a say...are you advocating systemic discrimination against a minority ?
You don't know my age.
 

Big_Lou

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I am flattered that you have spent time contemplating my penis, no I don't want to watch you "stroke your guitar" or "shoot your gun" and for the last time I don't want to see any of these selfies you keep sending me.

Oh and please Lou, get a haircut!

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Now I remember why I stopped responding to you months ago.
(zzzzzzzzzzzz)

Go on back to lurking/pushing multicolored pins into a large map of the United States while mumbling to yourself/hoping some minors show up, old fella.....
 

Rob Roy

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Oh don't worry, I don't put much stock into the political views of someone tearing down the system when they are unwilling to be an active participant.
That would be like taking financial advice from someone that has declared bankruptcy 6 times...oh shit.

If somebody is unwilling to be an active participant in your ideas is it better to leave them alone (as long as they are leaving you alone) or is it better to form two gangs and force them to join one band of thugs or another as if the only possible choices there are can be represented within that false dichotomy?

Active participant? Working to improve the sheen of a turd seems fruitless once a person has realized that even a shiny turd is still just a turd.

Also, I'm fine with you having your system as long as you don't assume it can grant you any right to impose on others who'd prefer not to be included. Can you say the same?
 

HAF2

Well-Known Member
If somebody is unwilling to be an active participant in your ideas is it better to leave them alone (as long as they are leaving you alone) or is it better to form two gangs and force them to join one band of thugs or another as if the only possible choices there are can be represented within that false dichotomy?

Active participant? Working to improve the sheen of a turd seems fruitless once a person has realized that even a shiny turd is still just a turd.

Also, I'm fine with you having your system as long as you don't assume it can grant you any right to impose on others who'd prefer not to be included. Can you say the same?
Yeah you're not part of my "system". You're a Samsquanch I thought.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
:sleep:

Now I remember why I stopped responding to you months ago.
(zzzzzzzzzzzz)

Go on back to lurking/pushing multicolored pins into a large map of the United States while mumbling to yourself/hoping some minors show up, old fella.....

Your humor was lost on me, was the punch line written in invisible blowhard ink? Cuz I couldn't see it.

Now, about your feelings surrounding your tiny genitalia, I'm afraid you're stuck with what nature gave you. But cheer up, at least it matches your brain.
 

Rob Roy

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Yeah you're not part of my "system". You're a Samsquanch I thought.
Yes, you're right, I'm sorry I sometimes fall out of character.

Here please look at my portrait and forget all that other shit I said. I read it on some greasy liberty pamphlet I found in a dumpster.

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