TrichomeChaser
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The Stonington blend is actually a powder plant food mix. You said 6ml how many tbs would you recommend
need some immediate help please. Time sensitive
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Tupapa
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Dont listen to this!!! Don't feed anymore!! U have done so much and added so much that u crated Lock out, u Definitely did it when u added the Fox farm fertz. Its not nutrient burn or overfeeding is a lockout and a buidup with your ph out of range., Did u check ur runoff ppm's? I suggest to!!
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im4satori
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I wont debate
it is possible its lock out if your over feeding
lock out can look like def...
except I would expect to see some signs of nute burn or clawed leaves if you had been over fertilizing
but maybe hes right
to find out which with 100% certainty you can give me all the NPK numbers along with your magnesium and calcium % amounts for your dry fert and whatever else your using and how many grams (for dry salts) or mls (for liquids) per gallon you mix
then we can see if you've over fed or not
but im still guessing your under feeding
hmmm what locks out Nitrogen???? anybody???
has anbody ever herd of anybody getting N def from lock out?
either way my advise on how to dose your fertilizer is sound
if you think its lock out,,, ok fine flush ,, then feed the amounts I mentioned
(stop feeding in week 4 of flower??? I wouldn't)
Tupapa
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You don't need to do all that just check ur RUNOFF ppm's that will tell u what's going on..
im4satori
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im curious about the run off
in hydro its a common practice
I have suggested it before in soil only to be told that it only works for hydro and shouldn't be considered in soil ,
so im honestly not sure and happy to find out which is right
normally i would agree but since im not a soil grower I cant really argue it either way
having said all that... I still think you def
Tupapa
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He has dumped millions of things already in his soil and to fix his problems he should dump a whole bunch of more shit to fix it? Less is more always., Keep it simple stop dumping all that bs in your soil., U gonna kill her with toooo much love and u won't even c harvest if u keep adding bunch of shit. KISS!!
im4satori
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tupapa
you angry about something?
the mix
2 tbs im guess is a lot more than 6 grams per gallon of mix
but you said your top dressing it every 2 weeks (is it time released or something) and you haven't used it in 2 weeks
so really you've only fed them this 1x since flower started if your almost 4 weeks and you haven't fed them in 2 weeks
the beastie 1/2 tsp is only 2.5mls 1x per week ..that aint shit!
so basically you've been feeding only water for 2 weeks,,,,
tell me what im missing
tupapa.. look at the quote above
this guys been flushing already for 2 weeks without the use of the base nutrient that would include all his micros
and you want to pop with your attitude and tell this guy hes over feeding when he just said hes been feeding basicly nothing but water for 2 weeks
I tried to be nice to you
Im trying to be inclusive and not treat you like an asshole
you going to help me along with that or are you looking to take your fustrations out on someone?
you angry about something?
the way your dosing its hard to know whats up
the mix
2 tbs im guess is a lot more than 6 grams per gallon of mix
but you said your top dressing it every 2 weeks (is it time released or something) and you haven't used it in 2 weeks
so really you've only fed them this 1x since flower started if your almost 4 weeks and you haven't fed them in 2 weeks
the beastie 1/2 tsp is only 2.5mls 1x per week ..that aint shit!
so basically you've been feeding only water for 2 weeks,,,,
tell me what im missing
tupapa.. look at the quote above
this guys been flushing already for 2 weeks without the use of the base nutrient that would include all his micros
and you want to pop with your attitude and tell this guy hes over feeding when he just said hes been feeding basicly nothing but water for 2 weeks
I tried to be nice to you
Im trying to be inclusive and not treat you like an asshole
you going to help me along with that or are you looking to take your fustrations out on someone?
im4satori
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im4satori
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trichchaser
I don't know what a tbs of your base mix weighs but im guessing its a lot more than 6 grams, but if your words are accurate you told me you've not given any base nute mix in 2 weeks
so although your tbs measurments might or might not be a lot for 1 dose
im sure its long gone after 2 weeks of just feeding water
the way I suggested you mix your nutes would be for every or every other watering depending on your environment and plant needs
I don't know what a tbs of your base mix weighs but im guessing its a lot more than 6 grams, but if your words are accurate you told me you've not given any base nute mix in 2 weeks
so although your tbs measurments might or might not be a lot for 1 dose
im sure its long gone after 2 weeks of just feeding water
the way I suggested you mix your nutes would be for every or every other watering depending on your environment and plant needs
Tupapa
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Im not mad about anything bruh ur the one overhere trying to play the urban doctor and i don't want to argue with u neither, he obviously have an inmovil nutrient problem since its starting from tops what that tells u that its either a lockout or a saltbuildup both locking out nutrients and micros he been addin Stonington blend plant food, beasty bloom, guanos, worm castings, he even say that he always start hes mix with 4ml of calimagic plus on top of all that Fox farm trio in powder? Do u know the KISS APPROACH? How is the ph? How is the ppm's? And without knowing that first u gonna tell him to add more shit? Does n def start from tops? No. So i rest my case. Op listen to him and dump some more shit that will fix it!!! GN I'm going to sleep.. lol
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Tupapa
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Read this. The Stonington blend plant food, all the other guanos and shit beasty, fox farms. And u want him to dump some more? Might be better using that kelp that u say u have in your next watering and check asap that ppm's from all you have added from veg to flower. Just to be in the save side and if the ppms are sky high then flush media and resume feeding. KISS APPROACH OP.. now for real im out im tired.. GN satori!!!
im4satori
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im4satori
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trich
I should have mentioned
the formula I proposed is only about an EC 1.0
which is considered low by every standard
if you have indeed already been watering with no nutes for a times then you've already flushed
if theres a chance you over fertilized and you haven't yet flushed then go ahead and flush
assuming you've flushed
the formula I proposed gives you a safe (low EC/PPM) formula that is surely not going to cause nute tox and also something for you to apply to your next grow
you could probably even use it for veg although is a bit high in P ideally but it would work
make sure when ever your water or fertilize your getting good run off from the bottoms of each pot to avoid accumulation of salts
I should have mentioned
the formula I proposed is only about an EC 1.0
which is considered low by every standard
if you have indeed already been watering with no nutes for a times then you've already flushed
if theres a chance you over fertilized and you haven't yet flushed then go ahead and flush
assuming you've flushed
the formula I proposed gives you a safe (low EC/PPM) formula that is surely not going to cause nute tox and also something for you to apply to your next grow
you could probably even use it for veg although is a bit high in P ideally but it would work
make sure when ever your water or fertilize your getting good run off from the bottoms of each pot to avoid accumulation of salts
confussed.com
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how much water needs to pass through the medium for it to be considered a "flush" ?
for example my medium is too hot my plant got nute burn ive only ever watered no nutes as the plants 16 days old so i needed to "flush" so i just watered till i saw run off and disposed of the run off and left it till next watering and am hoping she will pull through
is this considered a flush ?
i just didn't wanna drown her
im4satori
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the best method to flush soil might be better provided by the guys who grow in soil
but the idea of a flush is to run enough water thru to leach out the excess and that may vary depending on how excess and could require more than one watering
normally i would say you could monitor the waste and check the EC/PPM to see if its falling to an amount that is in range possibly but again I don't grow in soil so maybe wait for another... ive been told conflicting things from soil growers regarding testing the waste and without personal experience im not going to say im sure for sure
another thing and again you might check with some who grow well in soil... but if you feel like your soil is too hot./ im wondering if you might be better to re-pot it in a 50/50 potting soil/hot mix provided you can do so with any damage
but that might not be necessary unless the soil is real hot and the strain real sensative