Timber grow lights?

DogiTwch

Member
Hey guys i was maybe gonna get 5 of these.
  • 200 Watt Cree CXB3590 Square Framework
4 all in 3000k

1 in 4000k

I have a 5 foot wide x 5 foot wide x 8 foot high grow tent.

Thats 1000w total.

3000k all for flower so full cycle grow and the 4000k for vegging turn off when i flip.

Now thats would be 4-6 plants in 10 gallon smart pots.

Is this great option.
How much heat will this be?
 

BM9AGS

Well-Known Member
Hey guys i was maybe gonna get 5 of these.
  • 200 Watt Cree CXB3590 Square Framework
4 all in 3000k

1 in 4000k

I have a 5 foot wide x 5 foot wide x 8 foot high grow tent.

Thats 1000w total.

3000k all for flower so full cycle grow and the 4000k for vegging turn off when i flip.

Now thats would be 4-6 plants in 10 gallon smart pots.

Is this great option.
How much heat will this be?
Hard to say how much heat. Do you have a reference point?

I used to have a 1000w hid light. My 6" exhaust fan had to run 24/7 to keep it in the 80s.

With 4 200w timber kits I run my exhaust fan for 15 min every 30min and temps are lower.

I did the same of what you're saying. 4 200w cree kits from timber grow lights in a 5x5 it's about 800ppfd and first grow was about 2.5lbs.
 

Rottedroots

Well-Known Member
I'll tell you what Budski I couldn't be happier with my Timber Grow DIY LED kits. Granted I'm only 3+- weeks into my first grow with them but I've never seen plants come out of the gate like these girls are and I'm including my preferred method which is under the sun. Thankfully I don't need to understand the science of lighting I just need to understand the plant. Frames were not available from Timber 5 or 6 months ago when i got my kits and looking back I'm glad I built my own frames. It gives me the flexibility to set my own foot print and possibly add some suplimental lighting but idk yet about that. I was a bit intimated by the DIY aspect but when I got down to putting them together it was stupid simple with all modular connections. One thing for sure is that I badgered the crap out of my salesman. If I could think of a question I asked it. I bought three 300W kits and had them pre-wired to a single dimmer. ( OK Potentiometer). I still don't know how to properly use the dimming and I've just been using it to acclimate the plants to a transplant or pinch. IDK.. Rookie frames but more than sufficient
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Setting up the light like this allows me to slither down the side to tend them.
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18 day roots...should have rolled them a little earlier but no foul.
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Three week top in a 3 gallon pots.
 

Budsie

Member
I'll tell you what Budski I couldn't be happier with my Timber Grow DIY LED kits. Granted I'm only 3+- weeks into my first grow with them but I've never seen plants come out of the gate like these girls are and I'm including my preferred method which is under the sun. Thankfully I don't need to understand the science of lighting I just need to understand the plant. Frames were not available from Timber 5 or 6 months ago when i got my kits and looking back I'm glad I built my own frames. It gives me the flexibility to set my own foot print and possibly add some suplimental lighting but idk yet about that. I was a bit intimated by the DIY aspect but when I got down to putting them together it was stupid simple with all modular connections. One thing for sure is that I badgered the crap out of my salesman. If I could think of a question I asked it. I bought three 300W kits and had them pre-wired to a single dimmer. ( OK Potentiometer). I still don't know how to properly use the dimming and I've just been using it to acclimate the plants to a transplant or pinch. IDK.. Rookie frames but more than sufficient
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Setting up the light like this allows me to slither down the side to tend them.
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18 day roots...should have rolled them a little earlier but no foul.
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Three week top in a 3 gallon pots.
You guys are just lining up L channel to fit the diameter of the housing and laying them float in the channels?
 

Budsie

Member
I'll tell you what Budski I couldn't be happier with my Timber Grow DIY LED kits. Granted I'm only 3+- weeks into my first grow with them but I've never seen plants come out of the gate like these girls are and I'm including my preferred method which is under the sun. Thankfully I don't need to understand the science of lighting I just need to understand the plant. Frames were not available from Timber 5 or 6 months ago when i got my kits and looking back I'm glad I built my own frames. It gives me the flexibility to set my own foot print and possibly add some suplimental lighting but idk yet about that. I was a bit intimated by the DIY aspect but when I got down to putting them together it was stupid simple with all modular connections. One thing for sure is that I badgered the crap out of my salesman. If I could think of a question I asked it. I bought three 300W kits and had them pre-wired to a single dimmer. ( OK Potentiometer). I still don't know how to properly use the dimming and I've just been using it to acclimate the plants to a transplant or pinch. IDK.. Rookie frames but more than sufficient
View attachment 3883534
Setting up the light like this allows me to slither down the side to tend them.
View attachment 3883546
18 day roots...should have rolled them a little earlier but no foul.
View attachment 3883553
Three week top in a 3 gallon pots.
Nice setup also. rottedroots
 

BM9AGS

Well-Known Member
Yeah. On his vero kits he's using different heat sinks but the same can be done. I'll find the pic that shows it better. But it's super simple. I used hat channel, 2 bars to hold it all together. L channel for the heatsink rails and hat for the rails. Super simple.
 

DogiTwch

Member
Hard to say how much heat. Do you have a reference point?

I used to have a 1000w hid light. My 6" exhaust fan had to run 24/7 to keep it in the 80s.

With 4 200w timber kits I run my exhaust fan for 15 min every 30min and temps are lower.

I did the same of what you're saying. 4 200w cree kits from timber grow lights in a 5x5 it's about 800ppfd and first grow was about 2.5lbs.
No i do not have a reference point this is all new to me i just got the tent and buying what i need from there.

Ok 2.5 pounds dried is good for me lol

How many plants did you grow in theee and how big of pots.

As long as i can keep heat do decent grow temp then i be good, what fan do you use to exhaust.

Is 3000k good?

Should i run all 5 setup through whole grow?.. 4 3000k plus the 1 4000k?

sry for all questions.
 

Budsie

Member
Yeah. On his vero kits he's using different heat sinks but the same can be done. I'll find the pic that shows it better. But it's super simple. I used hat channel, 2 bars to hold it all together. L channel for the heatsink rails and hat for the rails. Super simple.
You're the man BM9MAGS. I'm going to harbor freight and home Depot on Saturday. I'm going to build it and see what it looks like
 

BM9AGS

Well-Known Member
No i do not have a reference point this is all new to me i just got the tent and buying what i need from there.

Ok 2.5 pounds dried is good for me lol

How many plants did you grow in theee and how big of pots.

As long as i can keep heat do decent grow temp then i be good, what fan do you use to exhaust.

Is 3000k good?

Should i run all 5 setup through whole grow?.. 4 3000k plus the 1 4000k?

sry for all questions.
For that grow it was 30 plants. All in 5 gallon. If you're getting 5 I say try to run a perpetual grow. Meaning you have plants growing from seed to teens in 1 area under 18/6 lights on/off then a flowering area with 12/12 on off scheme. That way when your flower room is harvested you can throw plants in to flower again and not need to wait 1-2 months for vegging.

The 30plants was over kill. We're doing 9 this time in 7gallon and expecting better results. Lots of ways to skin the cat.
 

BM9AGS

Well-Known Member
You're the man BM9MAGS. I'm going to harbor freight and home Depot on Saturday. I'm going to build it and see what it looks like
Dan I'm sure would be happy to help you with any questions. The dude is like family to me. Only bought from him twice.
 

Rottedroots

Well-Known Member
MIne are not free floating in the L. I drilled out 1/8th inch holes and used the supplied screws. I did add washers and locks but just is/wasn't necessary. They are not going anywhere. You could use 80/20 stock but I didn't know it existed when I built and I think it's a bit of an overkill. I didn't mount my drivers on-board instead I just extended the leads with 18g solid wire and the frames don't carry any extra weight.
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Budsie

Member
Dan I'm sure would be happy to help you with any questions. The dude is like family to me. Only bought from him twice.
I'm going to take a really good look at your setup and the one he sells. I won't only save on the price from him but the shipping also
 

DogiTwch

Member
For that grow it was 30 plants. All in 5 gallon. If you're getting 5 I say try to run a perpetual grow. Meaning you have plants growing from seed to teens in 1 area under 18/6 lights on/off then a flowering area with 12/12 on off scheme. That way when your flower room is harvested you can throw plants in to flower again and not need to wait 1-2 months for vegging.

The 30plants was over kill. We're doing 9 this time in 7gallon and expecting better results. Lots of ways to skin the cat.
Thks for the link to the grow you did i will read it in a few min.

I appreciate all your help.

Yeah i was maybe think of getting a 4 x 4 or a 2 x 2 tent to just run the 4000k for seed to veg or to veg any clones i do and use main tent for flowering like u said.

Dimable switch the 3000k till flower does timber drivers dim? or can i just raise the lights?

Basically i can get clones and veg a little still they happy and then flip in flower tent.
 

meangreengrowinmachine

Well-Known Member
check out growmau5 vids on you tube if you want to really dig into this and start from scratch (this LED sht was all chinese to me a few months ago as well lol) but timber is for sure the way to go imo.
 
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