My costum built 2 weeks constant harvest growroom

[vnbenny]

Hi, so i have this room its not big but just big enoth to do what i want to do,
feedback/tips/suggestions or complaints all will be apreciated its a design in progress so would be helpfull to, i tried to draw as best as i can what i an wanting to do so take a look.



Basicly it will be 3 mothers (Blueberry, white widow and blackjack) All femenised of course

cuttings taken from 1 mother will have 6 weeks to grow leaf back

Ten put in flower room where the clones would go straight into flowering
and hopefully should be finished by the time it reaches the 10-11th week
(8th week flowering)

 

[desertrat]

good start. a few suggestions:

search "stadium" as a tag and read up on stadium grows. i see you're trying to run a perpetual grow and manage your plant canopy to be flat. the most light efficient design is to have taller plants further away horizonally from the light which then gives you the same point to point distance from the canopy to the light for all of your plants.

definitely use the 600 watt

think out ahead of time ventilation and odor control as these are not trivial and can effect your overall design

while right in theory your idea for clone and mother distances from cfl lighting is right but doesn't matter in practice. cfl's don;t have much light to start with and their intensity decreases at one over distance squared. you might want a couple of inches difference but i doubt even that much.

it would help to have room dimensions for us to give you specific advice

 

[vnbenny]

But the 150 wat CFL is nearly as powerfull as a 400 HPS aparently

I will get precise dimensions tomorrow and put them on the drawing

as for the clones i do have a fluorecent light i can put above for a little extra light

 

[desertrat]

But the 150 wat CFL is nearly as powerfull as a 400 HPS aparently

you have it backwards - an hps has about twice the lumens per watt as a cfl light.

 

[smppro]

But the 150 wat CFL is nearly as powerfull as a 400 HPS aparently

I will get precise dimensions tomorrow and put them on the drawing

as for the clones i do have a fluorecent light i can put above for a little extra light

Please dont pay attention to those equivalent wattage numbers, its 150watts vs 400watts no comparison, a 150w hps put out more than a 150w cfl

 

[vnbenny]

Ok so here is the update pic with measures they are in Meters since i live in europe and im not really familiar with foot or inches but i think its 3 foot to a meter



feedback ?

 

[desertrat]

feedback:

1. most people will not be able to help you because this design is advanced. many of those people will try and help you anyway so be careful of the advice you take. i will tell you what i know and what i think.
2. i know you are confused about the efficiency of hps versus cfl. hps is always more efficient. the equivalent watt ratings of cfl are meaningless for purposes of growing weed.
3. i think this project is too advanced for you because, among other reasons, you didn;t know number 2.
4. i think you should start with a simple grow and build from there. don;t worry about perpetual grows this year.

good luck

 

[lorenzo08]

feedback:

1. most people will not be able to help you because this design is advanced. many of those people will try and help you anyway so be careful of the advice you take. i will tell you what i know and what i think.
2. i know you are confused about the efficiency of hps versus cfl. hps is always more efficient. the equivalent watt ratings of cfl are meaningless for purposes of growing weed.
3. i think this project is too advanced for you because, among other reasons, you didn;t know number 2.
4. i think you should start with a simple grow and build from there. don;t worry about perpetual grows this year.

good luck

don't be mean. he's taking the time to ask questions and learn. a more effective way to figure out your lights is lumens. you want around 2000 to 5000 lumens per square foot. a 600 watt hps is around 95,000 lumens. mh is slightly lower. 1.5x2 meters would be around 3500 lumens per foot, which is good. I don't know what the lumens of your 150 watt cfl are, but maybe around 2100 lumens. you'll need a lot more light in there. maybe try for 5 or 6 of those 150 watt cfl bulbs around your mother plants, then 2 of them for the clones, or T5's or T8's or something.

 

[vnbenny]

Thanks for the replies but i think you guys have a wrong idea about the CFL,

The 150 wat CFL is the power it consumes so has the power of a 750w light
its not a 150 wat comparison with the 27 wat light

 

[lorenzo08]

Thanks for the replies but i think you guys have a wrong idea about the CFL,

The 150 wat CFL is the power it consumes so has the power of a 750w light
its not a 150 wat comparison with the 27 wat light

much better. any idea what the lumens are on that bulb? I'd still have another set of lights for the clones. don't want them to start stretching.

 

[vnbenny]

or what about this, looks very potent
Energy Saving 250W Compact Fluorescent Light Bulb 8UB - eBay (item 310082546632 end time Sep-20-08 02:05:38 PDT)

 

[desertrat]

Thanks for the replies but i think you guys have a wrong idea about the CFL,

The 150 wat CFL is the power it consumes so has the power of a 750w light
its not a 150 wat comparison with the 27 wat light

no. you really have this wrong. yesm the 150 is the power it consumes. the 750 is how bright it appears to the human eye compared to an incandscent bulb. the 750 number has nothing to do with how much light is delivered to the plant. really.

so the real comparison is actual watts used x lumens per watt equals total lumens which is what you're really trying to maximize for weed.


so - 150 actual cfl watts x 60 lumens per watt = 9,000 lumens
400 actual hpa watts x 140 lumens per watt - 55,000 lumens

get it?

 

[vnbenny]

• This 250W compact fluorescent bulb utilizes 8 individual bulbs, and features a design that saves electricity by as much as 80%. It features rare-earth phosphor and advanced aerospace technologies. It produces no noise and exhibits a lifetime of up to 8,000 hours. It has a working voltage of 170V -240V, measures 36.5 x 32 x 12.7cm and has a 17mm diameter.
  
• 250W compact fluorescent bulb
• Super High Output
• No more heat problems
• Only 250W in power
• No more heavy ballasts
• Great for mother plants and clones, of for side lighting to increase yields
• Perfect patner to your HPS lamp to increase PAR watts
• Type: 8UB (8 bulbs)
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• No visible flickering
• Low power consumption uses 80% less electricity
• Lifetime: 8,000 hours
• Power factor: >= 0.90. THD< 36%
• Complies with IEC61000-3-2 low-frequency emission standards
• 60Lm/w, Ra > 80
• Voltage: 170V -240V
  [*]Power: 250W (ballast inside)
• Luminous flux: 12000 (LM)
• Rendering index: 80 (RA)
• Color temperature: 6400K Spectrum Plant Lights
• Dimensions: 36.5 x 32x 12.7cm (H1 x H2 x D), diameter: 17mm
• In white box packaging
• Standard Certification: CE
• Around 600W incandescent Equivalent

 

[desertrat]

lumens from one 400 watt hps = lumens from three 250 watt cfl

edit - and to be clear, i am not baked

 

[vnbenny]

Thats ok then i only need them to grow slow anyways.

 

[skunkdog]

Heres my 2 cents.

The 3 mumz with a 250 hps or mh,but a 600 would be nicer!

Clone's done in a small box, over at the shelf, under tubes.

Clones then go to budin table in coco fulled pots,on to a flood and drain table, running flood to waste,
running one 600 or 2 600 or a 1000 hps,

then add cool tubes if not done in frist place, then co2,with an a/c.

also just sog it

 

[joesnow]

yea men that shit looks more than good enough for the vegetating stage just have mylar or some good reflecting stuff u dig