Not recovering from defoliating?

[Jimmy Sparkle]

Oh what the fuck!!!! Ppm, run off, flush, defoliate. Just throw it all in the trash and buy it from someone. Good way to take something awesome and turn it into a fucking miserable nightmare. Sorry but if you listen to these urban legend chasers that do this you will be here asking a lot more questions about problems you never needed to have.

 

[The Yorkshireman]

I defoliate

 

[kaydeezee]

Oh what the fuck!!!! Ppm, run off, flush, defoliate. Just throw it all in the trash and buy it from someone. Good way to take something awesome and turn it into a fucking miserable nightmare. Sorry but if you listen to these urban legend chasers that do this you will be here asking a lot more questions about problems you never needed to have.

So you have told me what I'm doing "wrong" but not how you think you should do it?
Care to share more?

 

[Jimmy Sparkle]

So you have told me what I'm doing "wrong" but not how you think you should do it?
Care to share more?

I cannot tell you how to do it right because you are an individual with your own ideas. I do not know your skill set nor do I know if youve ever even grew a tomato plant. My techniques are not gospel by any means and Im not trying to be a wanker or mean spirited either. What I am trying to tell you is that in order not to do the stupid things that you are doing , you need to learn and understand how plants grow and NOT FROM HERE!!!!! I can say that because Ive done the same "stupid" shit when I was a sprout myself. It wasnt until I woke up and employed all my "real" plant growing knoledge to this hobby that I got consistantly bitchen harvests with almost 0% Insect or disease issues.

 

[Jimmy Sparkle]

And.... I also do SOME defoliating so you arent that far off. Try tucking those big leaves out of the way rather than removing. Leaching "salts" out of your container can be beneficial wich most house plant growers do and is also very different than flushing.

 

[Dr. Who]

Here thay are couple days later View attachment 3859139
Thanks for the reply ,
Soil-- plagron light mix
Nutrients--ionic veg/bloom at 3.5ml 1/2 recommended dose.
Green fuse grow 1ml per litre
Liquid silica 1ml.per litre per week in veg
Gal mag 1ml per litre ince per week under the led.
I have another plant same strain under cfl and I water her every 3 days 1 litre and she looks fineView attachment 3859138

Up your dose to 3/4 and then full strength as needed, and that'll get them back on track.

 

[Tyler the Gardener]

How long should it take 2 litre to dry up in a 11 litre pot? She was defoliated on Sunday long with the one next to her and a water srltreight after I stripped her?

Do you think I've over waterd and stressed her? If so how long before she bounces back?
Should I raise the temp's slightly to ' say 27.5c to help dry the media a little?

Just my opinion but I water once every 6 days in 5g smart pots. So it sounds like you could be, but I find letting the pot's dry out makes a huge difference

 

[Chunky Stool]

Just my opinion but I water once every 6 days in 5g smart pots. So it sounds like you could be, but I find letting the pot's dry out makes a huge difference

That's about where I'm at also -- once every six days. My girls were repotted a few weeks ago and it takes them a while to establish thick roots in the new soil. They will dry out a little faster every week and by the time I'm done flowering, I'll be watering every three days.
Watering too often makes plants weak and susceptible to PM & insect attack. If you can maintain high brix, your plants become immune.

 

[kaydeezee]

That's about where I'm at also -- once every six days. My girls were repotted a few weeks ago and it takes them a while to establish thick roots in the new soil. They will dry out a little faster every week and by the time I'm done flowering, I'll be watering every three days.
Watering too often makes plants weak and susceptible to PM & insect attack. If you can maintain high brix, your plants become immune.

I have noticed a considerable change since I have built a make shift tent and put all 3 plants in and wow!! It's like love at first sight lol
See for yourselfs

 

[kaydeezee]

Well " fast forward a couple weeks and I've noticed this yellow spreading from the tip Dow to the middle if the leaves?

Thay were fine 3 days ago ' but I noticed once I added a little 150watt led to cover a area thay wasn't getting enough light, she has started turning yellow ' mostly mid to high level on the buds.

Is this a magnesium dificency??
Can it show up that quick 3days??


Any ideas guys,
Week 6
Ppm 1400
Ph 6.1 / 6.8 I'm using the drops and strips
Feeding once per week l...water/water/feed
Watering every other day 1.5 litres per 1litre pot
Organic soil
Thay are due a feed tomorrow
I haven't flushed her since starting her from seed 80 days ago
She is a 10week strain

 

[dirtWeevil]

I haven't done soil in a long time but that could be end of life related, have you looked at your trichomes? Have the buds hardened up a lot lately? 2-3 weeks you may be chopping.

edit: You're giving 1 ltr pots 1.5 ltr every other day?

 

[kaydeezee]

I haven't done soil in a long time but that could be end of life related, have you looked at your trichomes? Have the buds hardened up a lot lately? 2-3 weeks you may be chopping.

edit: You're giving 1 ltr pots 1.5 ltr every other day?

11 lite pots 1.5 litre 3/4 times per week depending on temp's.

It's a indica heavy bluedream pheno from what I can tell ' I got the seeds from a local seed shop , it was a pack of there own brand seeds ' so I suppose it's blueberry dominant and blueberry is 10week strain I think?

I'm on week 6 today so that's still 4 weeks from chop? Possible 5 weeks?
I hope thay survive untill then

 

[dirtWeevil]

oh 11 makes sense lol, yeah you may have a problem there 6wks is a bit early, however the seller grow times aren't set in stone, every seed is a potentially very different plant from those before it. Yours may be done in 8 weeks which isn't out of the question for an indica. One of the soil folks may have better advice in your situation but check your trichomes nonetheless

 

[lilroach]

Oh what the fuck!!!! Ppm, run off, flush, defoliate. Just throw it all in the trash and buy it from someone. Good way to take something awesome and turn it into a fucking miserable nightmare. Sorry but if you listen to these urban legend chasers that do this you will be here asking a lot more questions about problems you never needed to have.

I'm jumping in at the end of this conversation without reading the whole thing, but found this advice, while pretty blunt, as being correct.

There's so many on here that seem focused on making a relatively simple task of growing a plant and making it as difficult as possible. Most of you won't know "Rubes Goldberg" who was famous long ago for taking a simple task and making it complicated.



Listen, even after 5 years of growing I do not consider myself an expert...not even close. But one thing I've done was to keep everything simple. One nutrient, some good soil, and good lighting. Pretty much the plant knows what to do from there. My journal charts how I grow and photos of my flower room. Feel free to read it in the link in my signature.

 

[kaydeezee]

I'm jumping in at the end of this conversation without reading the whole thing, but found this advice, while pretty blunt, as being correct.

There's so many on here that seem focused on making a relatively simple task of growing a plant and making it as difficult as possible. Most of you won't know "Rubes Goldberg" who was famous long ago for taking a simple task and making it complicated.

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Listen, even after 5 years of growing I do not consider myself an expert...not even close. But one thing I've done was to keep everything simple. One nutrient, some good soil, and good lighting. Pretty much the plant knows what to do from there. My journal charts how I grow and photos of my flower room. Feel free to read it in the link in my signature.

Have you got any advice for what I should do from now 'untill the end of the run as far as feed and sorting out this deficency??

 

[chemphlegm]

your plants are maturing, maybe finishing even, relax, grow organic next time, feed the dirt, plants already now what they need, where to get it, and when to eat man.

 

[kaydeezee]

your plants are maturing, maybe finishing even, relax, grow organic next time, feed the dirt, plants already now what they need, where to get it, and when to eat man.

I'm ditching soil and going NFT for my next run , I hate hand watering I'm terrible at it lol ' I always seem to over water or under water lol

I'm ordering a gt205 ' it's got a 20litre tank that's big enough for me to do the 2 plants I want to do and I don't have to wurry about iver watering" just got to be on top of nutrients & ph?
Don't get me wrong I enjoy growing in soil 'but my plants don't like me watering them in soil lol

 

[lilroach]

Sigh.....the only time one really over waters is in veg. You'd be hard-pressed to over water a plant in flower. Not that I'm the end-all in growing, but if you grow as I suggested in my linked journal you really can't screw it up.

 

[chemphlegm]

I'm ditching soil and going NFT for my next run , I hate hand watering I'm terrible at it lol ' I always seem to over water or under water lol

I'm ordering a gt205 ' it's got a 20litre tank that's big enough for me to do the 2 plants I want to do and I don't have to wurry about iver watering" just got to be on top of nutrients & ph?
Don't get me wrong I enjoy growing in soil 'but my plants don't like me watering them in soil lol

no worries, I hear that often, and the other way around too. you weigh your expectations, resources, capabilities, garden habits and
choose whats best for you. that way you keep the love in the hobby, without that, its just not the same. I really loved my hydro, but wanted an organic exp, couldnt do it hydro(me), tried promix, never looked back. cheaper, but heavier, dirtier, but, never a leak/flood, on and on I guess. Its the very best I can do right now and I still got the love.

stay cool

 

[kaydeezee]

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no worries, I hear that often, and the other way around too. you weigh your expectations, resources, capabilities, garden habits and
choose whats best for you. that way you keep the love in the hobby, without that, its just not the same. I really loved my hydro, but wanted an organic exp, couldnt do it hydro(me), tried promix, never looked back. cheaper, but heavier, dirtier, but, never a leak/flood, on and on I guess. Its the very best I can do right now and I still got the love.

stay cool

I'm definitely heading towards doing a "lucas formula " probrobly this ' ghe 3 part feeding regime for hydro?

It sounds really easy to follow and since I will be cutting out "hand feeding my problems should be limtied to keeping a eye on ph.
I'm going to be running 600watt 6"cooltube in a 2x4 with just a 5"rvk&and200cfm filter for extractio, NO intake "just passive ' and my temp's sit around 79f at the moment in a open DIY tent of the same size.
Can't wait to run the gt205 with ghe nutes.

I've never used rockwool'so I'm going to have to read up on how to transplant them in to " bigger cubes once thay hit flower?

Any ideas on how to flower a plant using rockwool in a NFT system?