Bridgelux EB Series Build

BuddyColas

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PicklesRus said:
what the F.

Hm I wonder if I should just send that pic to arrow and be like 'hey what is this packaging'

So I emailed Digikey and they fixed it right away, but just the other day I got an email back from Bridgelux because I emailed them too, and they were concerned digikey wasn't packaging them correctly and were going to follow up with their rep at Digikey.

So I wonder if I should contact samsung and let them know - I only think that would work if the strips were actually broken though. I filed an RMA request with Bridgelux thats why they gave me attention.
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Deffinately keep the pics and paperwork until you see if they work. They were really speedy and reasonable on the shipping.
 
PicklesRus

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BuddyColas said:
Deffinately keep the pics and paperwork until you see if they work. They were really speedy and reasonable on the shipping.
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Definitely ! Super fast shipping and the cost (free shipping) couldn't be beat.

I'm overall so super happy with LED strips, I really think that as of today it's cheaper to build LED than T5s and they are superior. Awesome :)
 
muleface

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so samsung and bridgelux make 4 foot strips. Does anyone else make them? did i read this correctly, sumsung has 2 different lines of their 4 ft strips?
 
PicklesRus

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From what I've been playing around with on my spreadsheet, the Bridgelux Vero's look like an even better deal than the EB Strips... but... the EB Strips were so easy to install and work with.
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muleface

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its the heatsinks that always kill me with the cobs. I like to use passive cooling. so they get pricey, if you want to pump 80-100 watts to a cob, the heat sink is like 30 dollars.
 
PicklesRus

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muleface said:
its the heatsinks that always kill me with the cobs. I like to use passive cooling. so they get pricey, if you want to pump 80-100 watts to a cob, the heat sink is like 30 dollars.
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True, but you can get nice passive pin heatsinks now - I'm definately going to build my flowering light with veros. I'll keep the Strips for my seedlings and vegging, not because they won't work for flowering I just want some veros :)
 
muleface

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I have 2 fixtures in a 4x8 tent. I am using 4 Vero 29's and a quantum board per fixture. each fixture has the 29's running with a 320-2.1 ma driver, and 2 board are running on 1, 240-1.05 ma drive. So my entire tent has about 950 ish watts running in it.

Honestly, i think the veros do a amazing job. mixed with the quantum board, the coverage is pretty consistent, and the plants are thriving under them, even a lettuce plant likes them.

robin has some really great passive heat sinks for sale. you should check them out if you haven't seem them yet.
 

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muleface said:
I have 2 fixtures in a 4x8 tent. I am using 4 Vero 29's and a quantum board per fixture. each fixture has the 29's running with a 320-2.1 ma driver, and 2 board are running on 1, 240-1.05 ma drive. So my entire tent has about 950 ish watts running in it.

Honestly, i think the veros do a amazing job. mixed with the quantum board, the coverage is pretty consistent, and the plants are thriving under them, even a lettuce plant likes them.
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Looks awesome :)
 
muleface

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PicklesRus said:
Well the first time the strips were totally bent in a U shape, and I got a spare set for free - these ones I hope the packaging was good enough, but i'm just really surprised there was no bubble wrap and the "box" was flat.. like. wtf. they could have gotten damaged easily...

If they dont work, more free LEDs lol.

So just a heads up, if Arrow is shipping the strips like this then you might end up going through a 'return' process.
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Guys, I think we all need to send PicklesRus a big thank you. He paved the way for us (to get better shipping) from digikey. I got my bridgelux strips today. They were packed like they were work 10k a piece.

they were each wrapped in bubble wrap, then wrapped in groups of 2 in more bubble wrap, then all grouped together and put in a huge static bag, then wrapped in some kind of cardboard mesh, then put in a triangle box. I could have beaten an intruder with the box, and the lights would have been fine.
 

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muleface said:
Guys, I think we all need to send PicklesRus a big thank you. He paved the way for us (to get better shipping) from digikey. I got my bridgelux strips today. They were packed like they were work 10k a piece.

they were each wrapped in bubble wrap, then wrapped in groups of 2 in more bubble wrap, then all grouped together and put in a huge static bag, then wrapped in some kind of cardboard mesh, then put in a triangle box. I could have beaten an intruder with the box, and the lights would have been fine.
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Ha ha ha yeah man. I did reach out to arrow too actually and sent them the pics and circled the part of the datasheet that says the pcb shouldn't be bent in shipping. I think I should also contact Samsung to see if they can put some pressure on arrow to tighten up their packaging practice.. the Samsungs I got today were face to face without bubble wrap - I'm pretty sure the LED surfaces shouldn't have pressure put on them and obvs the "box" it came in which was more like a flat piece of bent cardboard should not be used for shipping leds.
 
PicklesRus

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BuddyColas said:
I ordered 10 of the 4K Samsung strips from Arrow and they came in bubble wrap in a stiff cardboard "L" strip.
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I don't know what those warehouse guys are thinking. I should have taken better pics of the package and shown how the LED surfaces were sandwiched against eachother without padding. Meh. What can you do.
 
muleface

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does anyone else think the numbers on the samsung M-series spec sheet are kind of janky?

so running a M-series 4ft C
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HLG-320H-C1050B (im assuming this is the correct ma on the first column)
max v = 305
watts = 320.25

13.377 strips @ 426.73 watts

HLG-320H-C1400B
max v = 229
watts = 320.6

9.54 strips @ 320.6

HLG-320H-C2100B
max v = 152
watts = 319.2

4.30 strips @ 152 watts

These numbers don't seem to add up correctly.

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HLG-320H-C1050B
max v = 305
watts = 320.25

6.73 strips @ 305 watts

HLG-320H-C1400B
max v = 229
watts = 320.6

4.92 strips @ 321 watts

the 1400 on the samsung seems to be right, the rest seem like someone just plugged numbers in there randomly. The bridelux numbers look right. I find the watts and volts on the 1000 ma bridgelux a little coincidental, but its at least close.

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I actually just emailed Samsung on this, maybe ill hear back from them
 
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PicklesRus

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muleface said:
does anyone else think the numbers on the samsung M-series spec sheet are kind of janky?

so running a M-series 4ft C
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HLG-320H-C1050B (im assuming this is the correct ma on the first column)
max v = 305
watts = 320.25

13.377 strips @ 426.73 watts

HLG-320H-C1400B
max v = 229
watts = 320.6

9.54 strips @ 320.6

HLG-320H-C2100B
max v = 152
watts = 319.2

4.30 strips @ 152 watts

These numbers don't seem to add up correctly.

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HLG-320H-C1050B
max v = 305
watts = 320.25

6.73 strips @ 305 watts

HLG-320H-C1400B
max v = 229
watts = 320.6

4.92 strips @ 321 watts

the 1400 on the samsung seems to be right, the rest seem like someone just plugged numbers in there randomly. The bridelux numbers look right. I find the watts and volts on the 1000 ma bridgelux a little coincidental, but its at least close.

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I actually just emailed Samsung on this, maybe ill hear back from them
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Yep that does seem weird to me
 
muleface

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(from samsung, only took them 3 hours to get back to me via email!! points for them!)

The number of strips in series is changing and each strip adds wattage.

The wattage consumed DOES change with the current.

HLG-320H-C1400B is a 320W Meanwell driver with a 1400mA output.

Our 4ft M-Series Gen2 C will need 24VDC at 1400mA and each module would consume 33.6W each. I assume the 1400mA driver has a max output voltage 229VDC and would limit you to only 9 modules in series @ 33.6Wea = 302.4W

1050mA @ 305VDC would limit you to only 13 modules in series @24.6Wea = 319.4W

2100mA @ 152VDC would limit you to only 6 modules in series @ 52.5Wea = 314.9W


Thanks,

Mike
 
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