Dylann Roof Sentenced to Death for Charleston Church Shooting

Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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I don't think Dylan Roof is evil. I think he's dumb white trash. He actually believes Neo-Nazi propaganda about the "statistical" rate at which black men are raping white women and committing crimes. I don't think that guy is smart enough to be true evil. I legitimately think he is stereotypical, dumb, bigoted, redneck white trash.
 
Huckster79

Huckster79

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Its not about the convict really, its about us. Who are we? I beleive the Catholic churches teaching on the death penalty is the most well balanced thought out angle you can find on the topic.. and the basics of it could be accepted by anyone not just a catholic. it roughly states that the death penalty should never be used except when there is no other reasonable means for the state to protect society from the criminal... his actions are gut wrenching... we need not stoop that low ourselves...
 
Blunted 4 lyfe

Blunted 4 lyfe

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Padawanbater2 said:
The fact that you reached that conclusion upon further reflection raises you above him. This guy was deeply emotionally troubled and influenced by years of right wing propaganda

This is an interesting case because it makes all of us ask ourselves what the appropriate consequences are for someone who murdered 9 people without remorse. Is it the job of the state to administer punishment or justice? Are they one in the same? Do you think the state should have the authority to administer punishment to citizens upon a guilty verdict?

I don't know the answers to these questions, but I ultimately think it's the job of the state to make sure others are protected from this sort of individual, that's the priority. It's important the family members of the victims see justice as well, but I don't know what that is. If I were related to someone who Roof murdered, then the state murdered Roof, I think I'd still feel just as empty inside from the person taken away from me. Sure he's dead now, but so is my family member. How might I react 30 years down the line if this person actually did show remorse? I probably wouldn't believe it, but who really knows? I feel like even if he didn't, and he still expressed it, that that feeling would be more important to me than his empty death at the hands of the state.

Ever seen this clip?

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I certainly couldn't forgive him if he took the life of someone I love for most killers I do have sympathy for and may possess redeemable qualities however this garbage has none that I feel strongly that compassion should be shown to, tmo.
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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Padawanbater2 said:
The fact that you reached that conclusion upon further reflection raises you above him. This guy was deeply emotionally troubled and influenced by years of right wing propaganda

This is an interesting case because it makes all of us ask ourselves what the appropriate consequences are for someone who murdered 9 people without remorse. Is it the job of the state to administer punishment or justice? Are they one in the same? Do you think the state should have the authority to administer punishment to citizens upon a guilty verdict?

I don't know the answers to these questions, but I ultimately think it's the job of the state to make sure others are protected from this sort of individual, that's the priority. It's important the family members of the victims see justice as well, but I don't know what that is. If I were related to someone who Roof murdered, then the state murdered Roof, I think I'd still feel just as empty inside from the person taken away from me. Sure he's dead now, but so is my family member. How might I react 30 years down the line if this person actually did show remorse? I probably wouldn't believe it, but who really knows? I feel like even if he didn't, and he still expressed it, that that feeling would be more important to me than his empty death at the hands of the state.

Ever seen this clip?

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Interesting.....do you consider the jury as "the state"?
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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_Pinworm_ said:
You are telling me as a human, that no part of you wants to see that cunt pay for what he did (in the worst way)?
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It really depends upon how you look at it. Are we talking about what is best for the individual or best for the community?

If someone commits a crime that requires them to be locked up for life then I would say for the sake of the community it is better to execute them. Then there is no more safety issue nor issue with supporting them.

And why dont we simply put people in a room and just remove the oxygen? No drugs, no fancy chemicals, no pain and suffering, the person simply goes to sleep and never wakes up. Seems a very simple way to execute people.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Padawanbater2 said:
I don't support capital punishment

If there were ever a case to support it, it would probably be something like this, he murdered 9 people in cold blood with many witnesses present and hasn't shown a shred of remorse since

To me, the crime is irrelevant to the question of the morality of giving the state the authority to carry out a death sentence. What he did is deplorable, but when the state kills an innocent person it's unforgivable and if you support the state killing Roof, you must accept some innocents will also be killed using the same process
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Exactly. There are certainly people that deserve to die. The world would be a better place...but, we have executed innocent people before, and I do not trust our criminal justice system to get it right every time. If you have money, you can buy a good defense and often times your freedom. If you don't have money you are sent through the meat grinder that is neither fair nor impartial. I can't support the death penalty for anyone because of this.
 
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