So what went wrong in the capitalist Utopia of America?

Justin-case

Justin-case

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NLXSK1 said:
I dont hang out with him on a regular basis.
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Part of me wants to just give you a smart ass response to this absurd post, but what the hell. I highly recommend you "take a look at" how Putin was put into power by Boris Yeltsin, as he was forced to resign over corruption charges. Once the transition took place Yeltsin was pardoned by Putin, just as they had previously planned. Since taking office he has used his powers to enrich himself and friends through rigged goverment contracts where bribes are handed regularly. Also Google Putin's palace, it's a billion dollar complex in southern Russia. With very interesting story as well.

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ttystikk

ttystikk

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ArcticGranite said:
What went wrong? Not in any order but these items factor heavily into the systemic dysfunction this country's experiencing.

Fractional reserve banking and fiat currency.

Our governance has become an oligarchy dictated to by a corporatocracy.

Lack of gainful employment for citizens.

A budget with more outflow than income.
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Full Credit for trying, at least!
In reply, in order;

Reserve banking isn't the problem, it's that economic crashes are so cavalierly tolerated in the first place.

The oligarchy (think ultra wealthy families through trusts) OWNS the corporations, through which they manipulate- bribe- the governance of our country. Worse, it's TAX DEDUCTIBLE, so it's FREE TO THEM.

Corporatism is running the show so to increase profit they'll minimise wages by governance through loss of pensions and lower taxes, offshoring and cutting wages on the rest by threatening to do the same.

Budget deficits are the obvious result of massive tax cuts on corporations and the rich, sooooooooo they'll just impoverish America's future by running up the debt since the populace is allowing them to do it!

RAISE TAXES ON THE RICH AND ON CORPORATIONS. Those corporations who threaten to offshore everything can then be subject to import tariffs that match the incremental costs of wages, health care and benefits. This is not a new idea, it's how the world worked before corporations- that is to say, their owners- took over our government.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Justin-case said:
Part of me wants to just give you a smart ass response to this absurd post, but what the hell. I highly recommend you "take a look at" how Putin was put into power by Boris Yeltsin, as he was forced to resign over corruption charges. Once the transition took place Yeltsin was pardoned by Putin, just as they had previously planned. Since taking office he has used his powers to enrich himself and friends through rigged goverment contracts where bribes are handed regularly. Also Google Putin's palace, it's a billion dollar complex in southern Russia. With very interesting story as well.

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Sounds like every other government on the planet...

Are we supposed to punish him for that?
 
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