Triacontinol during flowering, am I making a mistake?

[DemonTrich]

Can't give any advise other than how I use it, listed above.

 

[mr. childs]

purchased some - any good advice to give - other that using it in weeks 3 thru 8 - some say use only 1/4 amounts ? Help convince me ? also it say's use of hydro and DWC ; no mention of soil

i used it years ago in soil, it worked great. nice greasy flowers as a result, i followed the bottle's directions. i suggest using it, but there are cheaper alternatives that are better to construct on your own, but are also more time consuming to create.

 

[DemonTrich]

Dr who (I believe that's his sn) posted a recipe for terpinator as well as sweet n raw/sugar daddy). For pennies on the dollar cost.

 

[harris hawk]

i used it years ago in soil, it worked great. nice greasy flowers as a result, i followed the bottle's directions. i suggest using it, but there are cheaper alternatives that are better to construct on your own, but are also more time consuming to create.

Look at "Liquid Gold" by Kelp4Less

 

[Dr. Who]

Dr who (I believe that's his sn) posted a recipe for terpinator as well as sweet n raw/sugar daddy). For pennies on the dollar cost.

Yup.....Terps is in the "Do it yourself" section. The sweet Raw is all over.....in different threads.

 

[LurchLurkin]

Idk about this triacontanol thing.

There was a lot of research in the 70s and 80s leading up to patents. Only one patent didn't lapse with a commercial product in Finland.

A foliar spray of 0.005ppm as I recall boosted corn, tomato, and some other crops yield. They didn't describe how it was prepared. A more recent study compared a nutrient fed dose to tomato and corn and only found a benefit to the tomato, suggesting that it only benefits c3 plants if delivered that way, by boosting co2 assimilation.

There's probably at least one more active patent as tria something sells little sachets apparently mixed with tween. One patent, by a guy named Weliber, claims that tween encapsulates positive ions that are necessary for the tria to work and so is an ineffective carrier detrimental to all crops tested aside from sweet corn. He claims a polar organic solvent further diluted with positive ions to be more effective. He sells a product called calcium25 and I think he was once prosecuted for making meth, and currently under investigation by the FTC. He also said any additional auxins applied negated any positive effects too. His site says calcium25 has no tria. If it worked, why not still use it?

The Finland product uses a polar organic solvent to dissolve the tria, a rapeseed oil to help spread it and bind/penetrate the leaves, and short chain carbon molecules (I think EtOH) to provide extra carbon for the photosynthetic boost provided by the tria. Personally I'm not sure of rapeseed carrier clogging the stomata though.

 

[CobKits]

i asked growmau5 about his opinion on canna boost vs triacontinol. he recommended growmore jumpstart on cost alone. its like 1-2 ml/gal and only costs $25/qt. ive been using canna boost for a long time but $300/gal is ridiculous

 

[mr. childs]

i asked growmau5 about his opinion on canna boost vs triacontinol. he recommended growmore jumpstart on cost alone. its like 1-2 ml/gal and only costs $25/qt. ive been using canna boost for a long time but $300/gal is ridiculous

have you ever thought of picking up the boost equivalent that mb ferts produces? years ago i bought 90% + tria powder from them, but they no longer sell it online...

 

[CobKits]

i havent but mb is legit for sure. trying one thign at a time, using jump start for now. i like it but its a little too.. organic with the kelp. funks out my reservoir

 

[mr. childs]

i havent but mb is legit for sure. trying one thign at a time, using jump start for now. i like it but its a little too.. organic with the kelp. funks out my reservoir

at least it wasnt alfalfa meal... i dumped two cups into a 5 gallon to ferment it & had the entire house smelling of excrement for a good while, even with the molasses combined

 

[Coloradoclear]

Hey upwards,
Take this as friendly advice, not expert.
KI don't have any experience with guano but if you found a recipe here you should be good.
Foxtailing late in flowering and it can seem like theyll never finish. Ive seen it earlier and the buds looked like a bunch of wheat but they did ripen normally.
I think im near your neck of the woods and for me the weather dictates harvest. Past mid october and i cant control mold.

Some strains are prone to foxtailing too.

 

[Illies1982]

mbferts is not legit. Complete bullshit. Canna boost is bullshit. Try tria it works! Seems there is a lot of selling on this Rollitup. I wonder how many people are being pay to talk up junk nutes!!

 

[Illies1982]

BTW What do you think the secret ingredient that is in canna boost? Well its tria. Make your own save your money, stop buying water!!!

 

[DrTricoma]

Triacontanol has long been used by farmers to enhance flowering and budset.
I'm not aware of any research that validates the claim that "triacontanol inhibits terpene production" but it is commonly believed that terpene production is part of a plants defense system and stressing a plant can enhance terpene production. Thus, if you want your plant to experience stress in late flower, feeding it Tria. that enhances photosynthesis will do the opposite. Kelp/Alfalfa tea is still a great transitional and early flower tea.

I've been reading up on Chitosan oligosaccharide this last week and it is something you may want to consider...it will kick your plants Systemic Acquired Response into overdrive by making it think it is being attacked by insects. It is derived from Chitin which comes from crab, lobster or shrimp shells and also found in insect frass. I just picked up a 25g bag of it off ebay and plan on experimenting with 200ppm foliar sprays. Theres a pretty educational thread on another cannabis forum if you just google "chitosan cannabis."

If I understand your point correctly, Triacontanol is good during veg and Chitosan some time in late flowering stage? Thank you!

 

[DrTricoma]

Nope I don't do foliar sprays.

not even en veg?

 

[porrista]

Today I just dissolved the Tria Powder into a few drops of laundry soap, then added it to the water and it didn't precipitate at all.

I added 50ppms to the container for the root zone and a very light spray at 800ppms on the girls
They look fine but I have been dealing with a calcium+potasium lockout due to using tap water and currently flushing them. Will post updated pics later if I notice any effects.

Currently, they have no smell at all, even if I touch the resins, they smell a bit like citrus and "plant".. This is Bruce Banner at the end of week F3 and as usual with these lockouts (K) it was starting to smell before, then stopped due to the C-K lockout.

 

[budman111]

Today I just dissolved the Tria Powder into a few drops of laundry soap, then added it to the water and it didn't precipitate at all.

I added 50ppms to the container for the root zone and a very light spray at 800ppms on the girls
They look fine but I have been dealing with a calcium+potasium lockout due to using tap water and currently flushing them. Will post updated pics later if I notice any effects.

Currently, they have no smell at all, even if I touch the resins, they smell a bit like citrus and "plant".. This is Bruce Banner at the end of week F3 and as usual with these lockouts (K) it was starting to smell before, then stopped due to the C-K lockout.

Best used a a foliar in veg/early flower