Stepped out of my comfort zone.

selfmedicator462

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IMG_2321.JPG So I've been SCROGing for a few years and decided I'm sick of dealing with it. Don't get me wrong it's done me well but it's just too hard to maintain in my little room. It's hard to reach the back of the plant to trim under growth, hard to check for problems and if I have to do a filter or fan change mid grow it's impossible. So I figured low stress training was the way to go. This way I can rotate the plant and if need be, remove it from the room. I can also cut down on my veg time. Hopefully my quality will go up. Don't really care about quantity anymore. I was producing way more than I could ever smoke. Any pointers or concerns are appreciated.
 

Tim Fox

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View attachment 3843968 So I've been SCROGing for a few years and decided I'm sick of dealing with it. Don't get me wrong it's done me well but it's just too hard to maintain in my little room. It's hard to reach the back of the plant to trim under growth, hard to check for problems and if I have to do a filter or fan change mid grow it's impossible. So I figured low stress training was the way to go. This way I can rotate the plant and if need be, remove it from the room. I can also cut down on my veg time. Hopefully my quality will go up. Don't really care about quantity anymore. I was producing way more than I could ever smoke. Any pointers or concerns are appreciated.
that looks great,, but works best in soil containers i guess,, cant rotate and lift out in most hydro or SIP type grows, I suppose you could lift out and rotate in DWC
 

Chunky Stool

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that looks great,, but works best in soil containers i guess,, cant rotate and lift out in most hydro or SIP type grows, I suppose you could lift out and rotate in DWC
Yep. I hand water my plants. It's a hassle, but it's nice to be able to use nutes that would cause problems in hydro systems.
Everything is a trade off.
I'm still on the fence about my next grow. Can't decide between a coir mix or organic water-only soil. I've already got everything I need to do either one.
Hmm...
 

pookat

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i use clear rubble bags peat +50-75% kitty litter sort of organic.
if i got a good mum then she gets a bed box aswell, slice the base of the bag -ya can see the root's- on to the extended root base, she can get big n bushy, great for cuts.
lol chunky £3.75 at tesco
 

Tim Fox

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Yep. I hand water my plants. It's a hassle, but it's nice to be able to use nutes that would cause problems in hydro systems.
Everything is a trade off.
I'm still on the fence about my next grow. Can't decide between a coir mix or organic water-only soil. I've already got everything I need to do either one.
Hmm...
my current grow is a water only soil grow, so i am partial to grows that way now
 

Tim Fox

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View attachment 3843968 So I've been SCROGing for a few years and decided I'm sick of dealing with it. Don't get me wrong it's done me well but it's just too hard to maintain in my little room. It's hard to reach the back of the plant to trim under growth, hard to check for problems and if I have to do a filter or fan change mid grow it's impossible. So I figured low stress training was the way to go. This way I can rotate the plant and if need be, remove it from the room. I can also cut down on my veg time. Hopefully my quality will go up. Don't really care about quantity anymore. I was producing way more than I could ever smoke. Any pointers or concerns are appreciated.
outstanding mainlining by the way!!! 2 thumbs up
 

Chunky Stool

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my current grow is a water only soil grow, so i am partial to grows that way now
What's your mix?
I was thinking about using 3 cubic feet of "torn bag" soil from home depot (half price). I believe it's Dr. Earth brand. Add 1 cubic foot of worm castings, 1 cubic foot of special kitty, and a cup or two of Epsoma tomato (dry fert).
 

Tim Fox

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i got some soil amendments from "Buildasoil.com" i used some left over dirt from a container tomato from last summer,, i also put in some horse manure compost ,,( we have 2 horses),, some chicken manure compost ( used to have about 20 chickens, plenty of poop out there where they used to be,, has cooked for about 4 years),, I added domolite lime and some happy frog dry nute, the little bit of old soil started life as FFOF,, so its a missh mash of this and that,,
the plants are kickin ass in it,, healthy ist grow i have ever had,, water only so far,, i have put a little cal mag in the water,, because i am under cobs, and the plants were demanding it when they were little, I think the lime is starting to break down now,, the last to res fills were just plain water,,, water comes out of my faucet at 6.5 ph,, we are on a well,, ppm is close to zero ,,
 

Chunky Stool

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I use Promix HP and a bunch of perilite and some lime. Whats the advantage of kitty litter?
Improves aeration while holding a little water. I've also heard that it provides sulfur.
And it doesn't float, which I really like.
My plants *really* dig it.
Hell, I put 100 lbs of special kitty in my garden and grew 10 foot sunflowers! And we had a SHLOAD of zucchini. Couldn't give it away fast enough...
 

Chunky Stool

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Couple hrs later and she already adjusted. Love these plants!View attachment 3844061
I was surprised how much abuse young plants can tolerate. I have taken long lanky plants & pinned the meristems down in a circle around the pot. They were a little annoyed at first, but adjusted within a few days.
Don't try to LST mature plants. They will snap.
 

Nugachino

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Never done scrog. But that topping-lst method you're using works a treat. You're still getting a canopy of sorts. Just that instead of one main cola. You're getting a whole bunch of them.
 
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