The Mysterious Case Of Jill Stein's Surging Recount Costs

squarepush3r

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-25/mysterious-case-jill-steins-surging-recount-costs

by Tyler Durden
Nov 25, 2016 12:45 PM
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Just yesterday we noted that Jill Stein was acting on behalf of Hillary Clinton to raise money for recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. As we noted then, we continue to be astonished by the amount of money flowing into the fundraising campaign and would love to see which of Hillary's mega donors have spent the most on the effort...somehow we suspect this isn't just a "grassroots organizing" effort as Stein described it.



So, in less than 1 day, Jill Stein raised over $3mm, which is more than the $2mm needed to force a recount in Wisconsin. While she attributed the accomplishment to "the power of grassroots organizing," we would tend to be a little more skeptical and would love to see exactly where those donations came from. Then again, maybe we're wrong and there really are just that many disaffected snowflakes out there willing to blow their money on an extreme long shot.

But, today a new mystery has emerged in Stein's fundraising efforts. Apparently, the more money she raises the more expensive the recount effort becomes. Courtesy of the Wayback Machine we have the following snapshots from her fundraising page over the past couple of days:

November 24, 2016 at 3:46AM - In the beginning, Stein figured she needed a total of $2.5mm to fund her recount efforts. That figure included $2.2mm for the actual filing fees and presumably another $0.3mm for legal fees and other costs.



http://web.archive.org/web/20161124132047/https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

November 24, 2016 at 1:20PM - Then, just 12 hours later, after the cash just kept flowing in, Stein figured she needed at least another $2mm as her fundraising goal was raised to $4.5mm in total. Of course, the filing fees of $2.2mm didn't change but the "attorney's fees" apparently surged by about 300% and the total costs of the effort skyrocketed to $6-7mm.





November 25, 2016 at 6:11AM - Now, just this morning as Stein approaches $5mm in total donations, her overall fundraising goal has surged once again and now stands at $7mm.





So, with nearly $5mm raised so far, the question is no longer whether recounts will occur in WI, MI and PA but just how much Jill Stein will be able to drain from the pockets of disaffected Hillary supporters to fund her long-shot efforts.

All that said, here is Jill Stein admitting to CNN that she has absolutely no evidence of election hacking....even though she asks that you please keep sending your money anyway.



And another where she says she would have challenged the election result even if Hillary won...though somehow we suspect she wouldn't have been able to raise quite so much money under that scenario.



And finally we leave you with this latest epic rant from PJW on the whole situation:




 

SneekyNinja

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Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Stein came out and openly said it's NOT on behalf of Clinton it's under the principle of free and unrigged elections.

It's funny, Clinton did on average 7% less well in places with electronic voting machines, almost exactly the amount needed in each to give Trump the victory.

Trump was the one saying it's rigged...
 

squarepush3r

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Jill Stein barely received 4 Million in total donations for 1 year, now she is getting already $5 million in a few days?

Also she is charging over $5 Million in administration fees above the actual costs for the state recounts lol.
 

abandonconflict

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Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Stein came out and openly said it's NOT on behalf of Clinton it's under the principle of free and unrigged elections.

It's funny, Clinton did on average 7% less well in places with electronic voting machines, almost exactly the amount needed in each to give Trump the victory.

Trump was the one saying it's rigged...
This went entirely over his head. I think he just doesn't get how a couple of simple facts destroy his asinine notion that Jill Stein is trying to steal something from his lord and savior Donald Gump. I'm not surprised, these alt-right idiots don't like facts even when they understand them.
 

Jimdamick

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Jill Stein barely received 4 Million in total donations for 1 year, now she is getting already $5 million in a few days?

Also she is charging over $5 Million in administration fees above the actual costs for the state recounts lol.
She ain't charging shit, all she is doing is setting up the legal requirements and future costs of litigation. Period
 

SneekyNinja

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This went entirely over his head. I think he just doesn't get how a couple of simple facts destroy his asinine notion that Jill Stein is trying to steal something from his lord and savior Donald Gump. I'm not surprised, these alt-right idiots don't like facts even when they understand them.
The hilarious part is if Trump offered any decent group of software developers 25mill and jail cover to hack the voting machines it would be done in a heartbeat.

The only electronic device that's safe from intrusion is the unplugged one.

The irony if one of Trump's central campaign promises was to "jail crooked Hillary" and was rigging the whole game from the start.
 

zeddd

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Jill Stein barely received 4 Million in total donations for 1 year, now she is getting already $5 million in a few days?

Also she is charging over $5 Million in administration fees above the actual costs for the state recounts lol.
That beach front mansion needs a pool upgrade to summin greener
 

Growdict

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There is a lot of chicken little the sky is falling here. There is close to zero chance there was enough tampering to change the election results. However, if there were, would you not want to know the truth? Let Stein challenge, who cares? Either there is nothing to it or there is a huge problem with multiple systems that will be obvious to a review.
 

SneekyNinja

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There is a lot of chicken little the sky is falling here. There is close to zero chance there was enough tampering to change the election results. However, if there were, would you not want to know the truth? Let Stein challenge, who cares? Either there is nothing to it or there is a huge problem with multiple systems that will be obvious to a review.
She lost by less than 100,000 votes total in 3 states...

She leads by 2million votes overall.

She did 7% less well on average in places with voting machines/compared to places with paper ballots in those same 3 crucial states.

It MIGHT be nothing, but if your wife is 7 months pregnant and you only got back from a two year tour 2 months ago then you've been cucked, bro...
 

UncleBuck

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a recount is pretty much useless. what needs to happen to see if there was anything fishy is a forensic audit. russia did attempt to tamper with ukraine's election in 2014 after all. so there is precedent.

that said, nothing will likely change the very narrow win for trump. and if we do find out about it, it will be years and years from now.
 

SneekyNinja

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a recount is pretty much useless. what needs to happen to see if there was anything fishy is a forensic audit. russia did attempt to tamper with ukraine's election in 2014 after all. so there is precedent.

that said, nothing will likely change the very narrow win for trump. and if we do find out about it, it will be years and years from now.
But if we give up fighting then we're cucks too...
 

UncleBuck

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I bet they didn't think throwing crates of tea into the harbor would eventually lead to the collapse of the largest Empire the world has ever known.
i fully support it though, even if it does nothing.

i also will support years and years and years of house committee hearings, senate hearings, investigations, and the like.

maybe one day some intrepid investigative reporter will uncover a bomb about it too.

ya never know. all we do know is russians hacked voter databases, party databases, individual email accounts, spread "fake news" (aka propaganda when called by its real name) which got 213 million views, coordinated with the trump campaign, and likely more.

so there's probably a turd somewhere in the punch bowl.
 

Unclebaldrick

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-25/mysterious-case-jill-steins-surging-recount-costs

by Tyler Durden
Nov 25, 2016 12:45 PM
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Just yesterday we noted that Jill Stein was acting on behalf of Hillary Clinton to raise money for recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. As we noted then, we continue to be astonished by the amount of money flowing into the fundraising campaign and would love to see which of Hillary's mega donors have spent the most on the effort...somehow we suspect this isn't just a "grassroots organizing" effort as Stein described it.



So, in less than 1 day, Jill Stein raised over $3mm, which is more than the $2mm needed to force a recount in Wisconsin. While she attributed the accomplishment to "the power of grassroots organizing," we would tend to be a little more skeptical and would love to see exactly where those donations came from. Then again, maybe we're wrong and there really are just that many disaffected snowflakes out there willing to blow their money on an extreme long shot.

But, today a new mystery has emerged in Stein's fundraising efforts. Apparently, the more money she raises the more expensive the recount effort becomes. Courtesy of the Wayback Machine we have the following snapshots from her fundraising page over the past couple of days:

November 24, 2016 at 3:46AM - In the beginning, Stein figured she needed a total of $2.5mm to fund her recount efforts. That figure included $2.2mm for the actual filing fees and presumably another $0.3mm for legal fees and other costs.




November 24, 2016 at 1:20PM - Then, just 12 hours later, after the cash just kept flowing in, Stein figured she needed at least another $2mm as her fundraising goal was raised to $4.5mm in total. Of course, the filing fees of $2.2mm didn't change but the "attorney's fees" apparently surged by about 300% and the total costs of the effort skyrocketed to $6-7mm.





November 25, 2016 at 6:11AM - Now, just this morning as Stein approaches $5mm in total donations, her overall fundraising goal has surged once again and now stands at $7mm.





So, with nearly $5mm raised so far, the question is no longer whether recounts will occur in WI, MI and PA but just how much Jill Stein will be able to drain from the pockets of disaffected Hillary supporters to fund her long-shot efforts.

All that said, here is Jill Stein admitting to CNN that she has absolutely no evidence of election hacking....even though she asks that you please keep sending your money anyway.



And another where she says she would have challenged the election result even if Hillary won...though somehow we suspect she wouldn't have been able to raise quite so much money under that scenario.



And finally we leave you with this latest epic rant from PJW on the whole situation:




Spoken like a true Trumpee. lol, zerohedge. What does infowars have to say about it?
 

FlyLikeAnEagle

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a recount is pretty much useless. what needs to happen to see if there was anything fishy is a forensic audit. russia did attempt to tamper with ukraine's election in 2014 after all. so there is precedent.

that said, nothing will likely change the very narrow win for trump. and if we do find out about it, it will be years and years from now.
I read that they were going to request forensics on random machines in various counties. Not sure where I picked it up at so take it for what its worth.
 
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