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Hybridway

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This Amare debate is always fun to read!
@Hybridway don't get worked up for nothing man. Hang in there!!
If Amare is that good, it will come to light eventually, right?
Ohhhh, it's a shining bro.
There you go spewing BS acting like you're going to do something and I am somehow holding you back. Again...you are free do whatever you want. I'm not your mom. And FYI, I don't need another sphere test, but again, you're more than welcome to do whatever you like.
I like how your defense move is to try and dispute a light no longer in production anymore, that was exactly what it said it was, against a "new light" that can't even handle updating a website. As well as that you have openly claimed me as the "hacker" of that site.
So tell me little pup...how do you have any credibility with conspiracy theories and a plethora of misinformation you spew everywhere? The only thing that is creditable about you is you are definitely a medical patient of some kind.
I told you I'd put the old SE-350 against your Cx-300. You keep saying you didn't run but you ran, climbed, & swam to get away from that one.
I never openly said you hacked anything accept your lights together.
Who's disputing old lights? It was old times & we're talking about the past there bucko.
You did a sphere test too. Is this why people are saying Cree isn't all that anymore.
Did you & Stephen not do well in the Sphere? All the sudden people are like, Cree ain't all that.
 
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Greengenes707

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Ohhhh, it's a shining brig


I told you I'd put the old SE-350 against your Cx-300. You keep saying you didn't run but you ran, climbed, & swam to get away from that one.
I never openly said you hacked anything accept your lights together.
Who's disputing old lights? It was old times & we're talking about the past there bucko.
You did a sphere test too. Is this why people are saying Cree isn't all that anymore.
Did you & Stephen not do well in the Sphere? All the sudden people are like, Cree ain't all that.
So you're saying that offering up a free light to do exactly what you asked is running???? You really should see someone about your issues. It's funny at first how delirious you are, but now it's just sad.

The opportunity was given to you to do whatever you wanted to...free cx300 supplied by me. You did nothing and ignored it...aka ran for the hills. Stop trying to seem tough...you ran like a pussy when given exactly what you asked for. You couldn't handle it.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/if-you-are-new-to-led-and-want-help-choosing-what-to-buy-post-here.633304/page-469#post-12564566
Stop lying and just either do a side by side, or a real test...or shut the fuck up and hold on to any credibility you may have left.

Here is lying about the hacking...
https://www.rollitup.org/t/cob-led-fixtures-some-quick-questions.922797/page-3#post-13019300
 

Hybridway

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So you're saying that offering up a free light to do exactly what you asked is running???? You really should see someone about your issues. It's funny at first how delirious you are, but now it's just sad.

The opportunity was given to you to do whatever you wanted to...free cx300 supplied by me. You did nothing and ignored it...aka ran for the hills. Stop trying to seem tough...you ran like a pussy when given exactly what you asked for. You couldn't handle it.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/if-you-are-new-to-led-and-want-help-choosing-what-to-buy-post-here.633304/page-469#post-12564566
Stop lying and just either do a side by side, or a real test...or shut the fuck up and hold on to any credibility you may have left.

Here is lying about the hacking...
https://www.rollitup.org/t/cob-led-fixtures-some-quick-questions.922797/page-3#post-13019300
You never offered me a fee light. You said that to someone else (you acting tough, not me) & I never even saw that post till now.
Still don't see where I said you were the hack. But I'm working on building the new led room so haven't had time to play with you. I know me though, & I would say I think it's you, not that it IS.
Either way, I'll gladly take you up on putting your 420 light against my SE-450 using a passport meter cuz all that counts is photons hitting the canopy. That's what good grow lights are designed to do. Focus light to the canopy, not bounce all around off a sphere.
That sphere thing is not the way to measure a proper grow light. Especially one like Amare that prides themselves on providing your plants with more proper spectral photons (or any) then any other light I can find.
@Stephenj37826 , you reading this? I'll put any of my Amare's against any light you have using a par-meter. Send me the light & I'll do it when I do my par mapping this week or next.
We won't have to worry about shipping back & I've already made a spot to hang your light for a side by side grow off after Amare kicks your butt.
Sphere Smear. Light hitting the canopy is all that matters silly rabbit.
 

Hybridway

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Saying PPFD without giving the area is kinda pointless.. But it looks like a 3x3. which would make sense.
Not sure the area but the measurements for both lights were taken @ 4'.
image.jpg Starting the ppfd mapping of all my Amare lights next week.
If any other company wants to get down just pm me & we'll make the proper arrangements. All i ask is that I can keep the light for one grow to do a side by side as well.
I'm sure both lights (depending on the other light) will do great in both the mapping & the grow. So, this is a good opportunity for both lights to shine.
 

Hybridway

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So you're saying that offering up a free light to do exactly what you asked is running???? You really should see someone about your issues. It's funny at first how delirious you are, but now it's just sad.

The opportunity was given to you to do whatever you wanted to...free cx300 supplied by me. You did nothing and ignored it...aka ran for the hills. Stop trying to seem tough...you ran like a pussy when given exactly what you asked for. You couldn't handle it.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/if-you-are-new-to-led-and-want-help-choosing-what-to-buy-post-here.633304/page-469#post-12564566
Stop lying and just either do a side by side, or a real test...or shut the fuck up and hold on to any credibility you may have left.

Here is lying about the hacking...
https://www.rollitup.org/t/cob-led-fixtures-some-quick-questions.922797/page-3#post-13019300
Seeing how i never saw the post you made to someone else about offering up a light for free.

So you're saying that offering up a free light to do exactly what you asked is running???? You really should see someone about your issues. It's funny at first how delirious you are, but now it's just sad.

The opportunity was given to you to do whatever you wanted to...free cx300 supplied by me. You did nothing and ignored it...aka ran for the hills. Stop trying to seem tough...you ran like a pussy when given exactly what you asked for. You couldn't handle it.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/if-you-are-new-to-led-and-want-help-choosing-what-to-buy-post-here.633304/page-469#post-12564566
Stop lying and just either do a side by side, or a real test...or shut the fuck up and hold on to any credibility you may have left.

Here is lying about the hacking...
https://www.rollitup.org/t/cob-led-fixtures-some-quick-questions.922797/page-3#post-13019300
Would you like to send me a light now? I'll do live ppfd mapping on both your 420 & my 450, then I'll do a side by side grow.
I'm sure your light will do awesome.
I'd really like for us all to get along & this test will show everybody that both Amare, PLC & Johnson (if he's in) are all top of the chain companies. None of those lights will be dramatically killing the next id imagine & will all give me great yields in the side by side by side.
I'm a good grower w/ a new room & big plants ready to go.
I come in peace & no longer want any of us to argue. I would like to show the poeple though that these are all top of the line lights that kick ass.
I'll even throw my Hydroponics Hut X5-500 in so everyone can see the differance between our good lights & a shit burple, which BTW costs the same as all our lights. That way poeple can see the benefits of a quality white & Enhanced white light over burple.
What do you say new buddy???
I'm not being sarcastic or a dick. I'm for real.
 

BuddyColas

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Seeing how i never saw the post you made to someone else about offering up a light for free.



Would you like to send me a light now? I'll do live ppfd mapping on both your 420 & my 450, then I'll do a side by side grow.
I'm sure your light will do awesome.
I'd really like for us all to get along & this test will show everybody that both Amare, PLC & Johnson (if he's in) are all top of the chain companies. None of those lights will be dramatically killing the next id imagine & will all give me great yields in the side by side by side.
I'm a good grower w/ a new room & big plants ready to go.
I come in peace & no longer want any of us to argue. I would like to show the poeple though that these are all top of the line lights that kick ass.
I'll even throw my Hydroponics Hut X5-500 in so everyone can see the differance between our good lights & a shit burple, which BTW costs the same as all our lights. That way poeple can see the benefits of a quality white & Enhanced white light over burple.
What do you say new buddy???
I'm not being sarcastic or a dick. I'm for real.
So check out post 290. A 4x4 tent, state the height of your light and "wall watts", then make a PAR map of your readings. I'd like to see it.
 

Greengenes707

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Seeing how i never saw the post you made to someone else about offering up a light for free.



Would you like to send me a light now? I'll do live ppfd mapping on both your 420 & my 450, then I'll do a side by side grow.
I'm sure your light will do awesome.
I'd really like for us all to get along & this test will show everybody that both Amare, PLC & Johnson (if he's in) are all top of the chain companies. None of those lights will be dramatically killing the next id imagine & will all give me great yields in the side by side by side.
I'm a good grower w/ a new room & big plants ready to go.
I come in peace & no longer want any of us to argue. I would like to show the poeple though that these are all top of the line lights that kick ass.
I'll even throw my Hydroponics Hut X5-500 in so everyone can see the differance between our good lights & a shit burple, which BTW costs the same as all our lights. That way poeple can see the benefits of a quality white & Enhanced white light over burple.
What do you say new buddy???
I'm not being sarcastic or a dick. I'm for real.
So it went from a sphere...to a lighting passport...to now a 125$ par meter that I have had since 2012 and so does have the RIU community now? Not even a Li-core even...you need to educate yourself.
How is that a test that hasn't been done? Or offers anyting of value?
How is that worth a free light? Or anything close to the deal I offered almost a year ago?
It's not...simple as that.
The deal has stood since I offered it...if you want to do a sphere test...I would send the light.
Since I put my money where my mouth is...you ran away and never followed through, new lights have been released and actual sphere and gonio test have been done already. I get the test As well as side by side by real growers who you could only dream to be as good and experienced. You are offering nothing...and asking for free shit after talking nothing but pure shit for over a year now.
So you are not following through for the second time...and still asking for a light?
 

MeGaKiLlErMaN

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Not sure the area but the measurements for both lights were taken @ 4'.
View attachment 3833213 Starting the ppfd mapping of all my Amare lights next week.
If any other company wants to get down just pm me & we'll make the proper arrangements. All i ask is that I can keep the light for one grow to do a side by side as well.
I'm sure both lights (depending on the other light) will do great in both the mapping & the grow. So, this is a good opportunity for both lights to shine.
Map it in a 3x3, 4x4, and a 5x5 if you can. All of those numbers are important to me, let me know the height as well.
 

MeGaKiLlErMaN

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So it went from a sphere...to a lighting passport...to now a 125$ par meter that I have had since 2012 and so does have the RIU community now? Not even a Li-core even...you need to educate yourself.
How is that a test that hasn't been done? Or offers anyting of value?
How is that worth a free light? Or anything close to the deal I offered almost a year ago?
It's not...simple as that.
The deal has stood since I offered it...if you want to do a sphere test...I would send the light.
Since I put my money where my mouth is...you ran away and never followed through, new lights have been released and actual sphere and gonio test have been done already. I get the test As well as side by side by real growers who you could only dream to be as good and experienced. You are offering nothing...and asking for free shit after talking nothing but pure shit for over a year now.
So you are not following through for the second time...and still asking for a light?
To be fair on the meter portion in a side by side they were all relatively the same... Slight difference on side light but it was negligible.
 

BM9AGS

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So it went from a sphere...to a lighting passport...to now a 125$ par meter that I have had since 2012 and so does have the RIU community now? Not even a Li-core even...you need to educate yourself.
How is that a test that hasn't been done? Or offers anyting of value?
How is that worth a free light? Or anything close to the deal I offered almost a year ago?
It's not...simple as that.
The deal has stood since I offered it...if you want to do a sphere test...I would send the light.
Since I put my money where my mouth is...you ran away and never followed through, new lights have been released and actual sphere and gonio test have been done already. I get the test As well as side by side by real growers who you could only dream to be as good and experienced. You are offering nothing...and asking for free shit after talking nothing but pure shit for over a year now.
So you are not following through for the second time...and still asking for a light?
His iPhone lux meter says his amare lights are the best.

Some people you really can't educate and will continue to reach for justification even if it's completely bogus. In the end I just hope he's paid for all his efforts. If not then DAMN
 

NewI

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Seeing how i never saw the post you made to someone else about offering up a light for free.



Would you like to send me a light now? I'll do live ppfd mapping on both your 420 & my 450, then I'll do a side by side grow.
I'm sure your light will do awesome.
I'd really like for us all to get along & this test will show everybody that both Amare, PLC & Johnson (if he's in) are all top of the chain companies. None of those lights will be dramatically killing the next id imagine & will all give me great yields in the side by side by side.
I'm a good grower w/ a new room & big plants ready to go.
I come in peace & no longer want any of us to argue. I would like to show the poeple though that these are all top of the line lights that kick ass.
I'll even throw my Hydroponics Hut X5-500 in so everyone can see the differance between our good lights & a shit burple, which BTW costs the same as all our lights. That way poeple can see the benefits of a quality white & Enhanced white light over burple.
What do you say new buddy???
I'm not being sarcastic or a dick. I'm for real.
Tbh I think the difference in yield will be minimum but both leds will ... draw more eyes if this would happen?
 

Hybridway

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Map it in a 3x3, 4x4, and a 5x5 if you can. All of those numbers are important to me, let me know the height as well.
The test I posted vs the Genisis DE was done in a 5'x5' @ 4'. Sorry that took so long for me to post. Had the answer n didn't realize it.
 
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