Hillary can't be trusted

[Big_Lou]

URSULA BURNS: So long means thumbs up, short means thumbs down; or long means I support, short means I don't. I'm going to start with — I'm going to give you about ten long-shorts.

SECRETARY CLINTON: Even if you could make money on a short, you can't answer short.

URSULA BURNS: You can answer short, but you got to be careful about letting anybody else know that. They will bet against you. So legalization of pot?

SECRETARY CLINTON: Short in all senses of the word. (emphasis added)

Hillary again
"Honestly, I don't think we've done enough research yet to say what the effects are and what they could be on different people with different physical or psychological issues, different ages — yes, medical first and foremost, we ought to be doing more to make sure that we know how marijuana would interact with other prescription drugs and the like. But we also have to know how even medical marijuana impacts our kids and our communities.

But the states are the laboratories of democracy, and we're seeing states pass laws that enable their citizens to have access to medical marijuana under certain conditions, so we have the opportunity to try to study those. And then Colorado and Washington have proceeded to permit recreational use. And at the same time, we're seeing the beginnings of important criminal justice reforms.

So I'm a big believer in acquiring evidence, and I think we should see what kind of results we get, both from medical marijuana and from recreational marijuana before we make any far-reaching conclusions... I think the feds should be attuned to the way marijuana is still used as a gateway drug and how the drug cartels from Latin America use marijuana to get footholds in states, so there can't be a total absence of law enforcement, but what I want to see, and I think we should be much more focused on this, is really doing good research so we know what it is we're approving."

Clinton: “But If Everybody's Watching, You Know, All Of The Back Room Discussions And The Deals, You Know, Then People Get A Little Nervous, To Say The Least. So, You Need Both A Public And A Private Position.”

 

[Fogdog]

i see what you are saying as far as the legality part, but the infrastructure is so pro pot now that it's not gonna be run out of town without a huge social resistance.

so many citizens grow at home that there is gonna be no way to stop them. sure the dispensary can be shuttered but you can't go door to door. and as a grower, if you really needed to be on the down low, you take one seed, grow a female, keep it as a mother and grow for years and years without any the wiser.

The issue that I was discussing is what kind of mayhem a wannabe dictator can do to the legal MJ community when the federal law is different from the state law.

To me, legalizing/deregulating at the federal level rather than just rely on a favorable ruling from the president to not prosecute is a priority .

In this regard, Clinton is maybe a little better than Trump but not enough. So I admit that I'm speaking out of both sides of my mouth. I support Clinton even though she's not pro legalize either. Trump, despite his speech in March has ratified a platform that is hostile to legalize and so it's a wash between the two in this matter.

I grew at home for the first time ever this year and had a really nice crop. I'm hoping to do the same next year but not going to stick my neck out for it if it means I can't openly protest a shithead Republican administration.. Trump, with Comey at his side will be able to feast on anybody who crosses him if they have ties to Colorado MJ business or even home growers. Hoover did the same service for Nixon using exactly the same legislation to attack anti-war demonstrators. I don't mean they would shut down the industry, I'm saying they would use it to attack political opponents or activists.

 

[londonfog]

Clinton: “But If Everybody's Watching, You Know, All Of The Back Room Discussions And The Deals, You Know, Then People Get A Little Nervous, To Say The Least. So, You Need Both A Public And A Private Position.”

Trump: “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bring crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people.”

Hmmmm did your mother in law bring drugs with her ?? Did she teach her little niño how to do these things that Donald says. Will he pass on this teachings to your daughter ? or Little Housekeeping as the Donald would refer to her

 

[Fogdog]

I gave you a video of trump saying cannabis should be a state issue not a federal one. I gave you a link showing hillary gets money from big pharma. So what does hillary say about legalizing cannabis? This is a question for fog dog

Trump has backed away from what he said in March and is supporting the RNC position of opposition to legal marijuana. Clinton is in the pocket of pharma, as is the GOP congress, which opposes legalize and so, she isn't where I want her to be on this issue.. The difference between Trump and Clinton is that Clinton states as a campaign position that she would continue Obama's policy of honoring state laws regarding sale and use of MJ -- pretty much status quo. Trump has no such position. His most recent position is that of the RNC's which is to oppose legal MJ.

To be honest, I don't think we have not much of a difference in this issue. We may support different candidates but I think you and I support deregulation or legalization of MJ. I don't think either candidate passes the sniff test.

 

[rkymtnman]

The issue that I was discussing is what kind of mayhem a wannabe dictator can do to the legal MJ community when the federal law is different from the state law.

To me, legalizing/deregulating at the federal level rather than just rely on a favorable ruling from the president to not prosecute is a priority .

In this regard, Clinton is maybe a little better than Trump but not enough. So I admit that I'm speaking out of both sides of my mouth. I support Clinton even though she's not pro legalize either. Trump, despite his speech in March has ratified a platform that is hostile to legalize and so it's a wash between the two in this matter.

I grew at home for the first time ever this year and had a really nice crop. I'm hoping to do the same next year but not going to stick my neck out for it if it means I can't openly protest a shithead Republican administration.. Trump, with Comey at his side will be able to feast on anybody who crosses him if they have ties to Colorado MJ business or even home growers. Hoover did the same service for Nixon using exactly the same legislation to attack anti-war demonstrators. I don't mean they would shut down the industry, I'm saying they would use it to attack political opponents or activists.

no i agree, clinton is not the advocate that i'm looking for either.

the drug really needs to be classified/ de classified as somtheing along the lines of alcohol or tobacco. possible risk but knock yourself if you want to!!!

but my main point is that there are so many people that grow for themselves, you can't stop it. it would require a door to door campaign which nobody is going to stand for

 

[Fogdog]

no i agree, clinton is not the advocate that i'm looking for either.

the drug really needs to be classified/ de classified as somtheing along the lines of alcohol or tobacco. possible risk but knock yourself if you want to!!!

but my main point is that there are so many people that grow for themselves, you can't stop it. it would require a door to door campaign which nobody is going to stand for

They don't need to go door-to-door. A few well publicized busts will intimidate activists. That's what happened during the Vietnam War. It didn't stop protesters but it was very effective at silencing people simply by letting them know they were under threat and was selectively used to take out leaders.

I hate this fucking war on drugs.

 

[Fogdog]

 

[Flaming Pie]

Citigroup had a hand in picking obamas cabinet in 08.

Wikileaks.

 

[Flaming Pie]

Except she lies. She says one thing in public which is a lie and tells the truth to her donors.

#podestaemails

 

[Flaming Pie]

Trump: “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bring crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people.”

Hmmmm did your mother in law bring drugs with her ?? Did she teach her little niño how to do these things that Donald says. Will he pass on this teachings to your daughter ? or Little Housekeeping as the Donald would refer to her

Their.

Yes. The cartels have people pay them and carry drugs for them to escort them across the border. That is what my mother in law told me.

 

[rkymtnman]

They don't need to go door-to-door. A few well publicized busts will intimidate activists. That's what happened during the Vietnam War. It didn't stop protesters but it was very effective at silencing people simply by letting them know they were under threat and was selectively used to take out leaders.

I hate this fucking war on drugs.

war on drugs= no winner

 

[UncleBuck]

Citigroup had a hand in picking obamas cabinet in 08.

Wikileaks.

notice how all that money came from individuals, not the company itself?

that's because those companies require those individuals to have an extremely high level of education to work there.

and, as we all know, highly educated people are not gonna vote for or donate to trump.

hence why trump loves the poorly educated (aka you).

 

[UncleBuck]

Except she lies.

she lies less than any other politician except obama.

on the other hand, trump does nothing but lie. 80% of the statements out of his mouth are plain old lies.

retard!

 

[UncleBuck]

That is what my mother in law told me.

your mother in law cannot be trusted because she is a foreigner, possibly a terrorist.

 

[Dr.Pecker]

so you support states that want to impose tougher restrictions and jail sentences on cannabis?

not very nice of you.



she gets money from people who work in the pharmaceutical industry.

ya know, well educated folks with advanced post graduate degrees. highly educated people tend to lean liberal ya know.

that's why trump loves the poorly educated, like you.

BAAAHHHH!

Your reading comprehensions almost as bad as your trolling.

 

[UncleBuck]

Your reading comprehensions

mmmmmhhhhmmmm.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

Your reading comprehensions almost as bad as your trolling.

Hi Dr. Pecker!

Want to watch a fake moon landing video with me? The doors on the LEM look pretty flimsy.

 

[londonfog]

Their.

Yes. The cartels have people pay them and carry drugs for them to escort them across the border. That is what my mother in law told me.

you are the very last to correct anyone. Blame the copy and paste

So the cartel paid your mother in law to deliver drugs ? What other crimes have she told you about.
why did your husband get kicked out the service ?

 

[londonfog]

your mother in law cannot be trusted because she is a foreigner, possibly a terrorist.

She married a possible terrorist. The whole family might be a fucking terrorist cell

 

[Fogdog]

Except she lies. She says one thing in public which is a lie and tells the truth to her donors.

#podestaemails

Her policy positions on MJ are clear and well stated. Trump's are not. He's flip flopped on this issue, The RNC's platform, which he endorsed opposes deregulation and even medical MJ. But nobody really knows what Trump is going to do, not even the Donald himself. Sometimes he changes his mind and denies he even held he opposite position even when he is on video record of saying so.

You say Clinton lies. She lies no more than the average politician, this is a fact, and verified. On average, Trump lies every five minutes during an interview or speech, this is also a fact and verified. Trump lies much more often than the average politician.

Your obsession with other women's fetuses is understandable -- yours is a religious belief that cannot be argued with in any rational way. What is not understandable is that you let your obsession warp you into a fearful bigot and supporter of a sexual predatory psychopath. One who is a liar to boot. And you call Clinton a liar. Too funny that.