SCROG Without Topping

Tim Fox

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Seems like that would defeat the purpose of the SCROG.
Just my .02 c.
i dont really know,, filling the screen is the goal i guess,, so I have 2 plants,, clones,, they are tall and linky,, its all i could get,, so either i top them,, and i mean,, cut off 6 inches or better,, and spread the lowest limbs,, OR,, i start the two main "tops" doing a circle around each other on the screen,,,
now is it ok to hack off a 12 inch plant and turn it into a 6" plant,,
 

Tim Fox

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I normally top at around the 4th node, let them grow a bit & top all those again.
This allows the lower shoots to make it to the screen giving you many more buds.
i need to go count how many nodes there are,, problem is at the state legal store where i bough them, they were the shortest they had, but the way they have thier low power lights it was causing all the clones to stretch, there is like 6 inches between nodes,, i have to something about the height, i can bend them over big time and push them under a screen,, hence the not top,, ,, i suppose i could top right where I am at and do the same,,
ill get a pic,, problem with the pic is the plants are still adjusting to the SIP,, kinda like hempy buckets,, where its a damp evironment, and they need to build water roots,, , not sure if you have dealt with hempy or SIPS,,,,, this is sorrta making me want to go back to the fabric grow bags at this point
 

Budddha

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U dont need to scrog u dont have enough foliage. the trellis would help support them but wih that small amount id just use a couple sticks cuz that wont ne too much. id definetly spread the bottom branches out. your going to have a ton extra room so spread as much as possible to try and fill up as much space as possible.

To answer your question i scrog with out topping all the time. you just need more plants or more veg time. fill the whole area for the best results.
 

Tupapa

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Also u should check ur ph., Those plants look sick., Purple stems. Get the ph in between 6-7 for best nutrients uptake.

- fix the problem and many deficiencies will go away...
Overwatering & underwatering
High humidity
Uneven moisture levels in the soil or growing medium
Too-high levels of N-P-K nutrients
PH is too high or low. I know u wasn't asking anything about that but if i was u i will focus first in keeping a healthy plant. GL
 

Tim Fox

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Also u should check ur ph., Those plants look sick., Purple stems. Get the ph in between 6-7 for best nutrients uptake.

- fix the problem and many deficiencies will go away...
Overwatering & underwatering
High humidity
Uneven moisture levels in the soil or growing medium
Too-high levels of N-P-K nutrients
PH is too high or low. I know u wasn't asking anything about that but if i was u i will focus first in keeping a healthy plant. GL
The water comes out of my faucet at 6.5 the soil is ffof mixed with happy frog organic dry fert and some horse and chicken compost
 

Tim Fox

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[QUOTE="Tupapa, post: 13097522, member: 94820whAlso u should check ur ph., Those plants look sick., Purple stems. Get the ph in between 6-7 for best nutrients uptake.

- fix the problem and many deficiencies will go away...
Overwatering & underwatering
High humidity
Uneven moisture levels in the soil or growing medium
Too-high levels of N-P-K nutrients
PH is too high or low. I know u wasn't asking anything about that but if i was u i will focus first in keeping a healthy plant. GL[/QUOTE]
The plants have been in !y box only 3 days , what you see is how they came to me
 

Tupapa

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[QUOTE="Tupapa, post: 13097522, member: 94820whAlso u should check ur ph., Those plants look sick., Purple stems. Get the ph in between 6-7 for best nutrients uptake.

- fix the problem and many deficiencies will go away...
Overwatering & underwatering
High humidity
Uneven moisture levels in the soil or growing medium
Too-high levels of N-P-K nutrients
PH is too high or low. I know u wasn't asking anything about that but if i was u i will focus first in keeping a healthy plant. GL
The plants have been in !y box only 3 days , what you see is how they came to me[/QUOTE]
Just ma 2 cents. Take it with a grain of Salt. Im just saying u should fix that first. Plant health. GL bruh
 

Tim Fox

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Is not completely organic. But its awesome soil. U should be ok. GL
doesnt need to be,, not something i strive for,, i like easy
the SIP has them damp,, and there is nothing i can do to dry them out,, SIPs control thier own moisture,,
but its screwing with my grow at the moment,, and i am about to rip them out and put them in fabric sacks
 
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