What's better than blue dream for yield and high?

greasemonkeymann

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Sounds like you've had the same BD that I had. It was so good that everyone referred to it as "THE Real Blue Dream". Very potent, flavorful, smoke. Very heavy lean towards the Haze. I lost that cut (let it "go" because I was certain that it was just a phone call away, wrong) and haven't come across it since (damn).

That being said, as far as smoke, my "Mystery", "Mint", "M4", "M6", "M7", "M10", HPK, and "Venice OG" all "1-Up" it.
yea, i'm in santa cruz, so the santa cruz cut, is what we have, and it's awesome
a good cross of it is the doubledream dreamstar x SCBD, nice yielder inside, and doesn't stretch as much as the SCBD
the smoke is almost indiscernible too
 

tstick

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Yeah I know what you're @Yodaweed talking about with the "old school" blueberry strains...except when I refer to "old" I mean the late 70's!

Back then, there was a blueberry going around - a pure indica....not the DJ Short thing...definitely not Blue Dream. That old indica was THE shit, man! It was the single best pure-weed strain I've ever smoked. It's likely that it wasn't very high in THC compared to today's strains...but it doesn't make any difference. The smoke was heavy The flavor was extremely heavy on the skunk blueberry terpene profile and it was the kind of weed that would permeate the room when someone had it on them. We didn't have testing labs back then, but everyone knew from the smell if the weed was going to be good or not. If it didn't stink like a skunk then it was "ditchweed". And it's especially funny to me to see that there is so much interest in terpene profiles now and "the entourage effect" and all that stuff -because it's the way we knew how to tell good weed back then, too....but without all the science behind it!
 

GardenGnome83

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Blue dream is bomb, but someone got all jelly that bd was clone only, and someone didn't give them a cut. Or someone saw 17% thc and made an uninformed judgment, and that got spread. I see #fuckbluedream on insta lol, some mean it, some are sarcastic. When done right, she is a go to.
You guys go ahead and get rid of her...
 

TheChemist77

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They're decent producers, a lot of folks here have it since we can't get the clone-only outside the US. Like someone else mentioned though, it's pretty weak in comparison to anything I run. I only keep it for a couple of lightweights that like it because it's not too strong. Nice smoke, taste, bag appeal, just short on punch.
blue dream is a sativa dom,,so that is why it may not have the punch your after,,sativa is great daytime weed bud i feel the indica or indica dominant hybrids can get the better knockdown,knockout punch power..ive been having bad luck popping seeds lately,,maybe 50% pop and come up well...then seems like 1 out of 5 of those are good mothers w/ the production,crystalization, and high im after..most seeds are only 3 years old and all wer kept w/ silica in a seed fridge,,,just bad luck i guess?? never before have i had less than 95% success in germination,, and normally got 4-5 killer moms in every 10 pack,,.. guess seeds are not what they wer back in the late 90's..
Problem with all these blueberry crosses you guys are talking about is they lack potency, I have grown a ton of blueberry crosses in hope to find that old school 2001-2004 blueberry flavor, I can never find it and I can never find a good blueberry plant anymore, that old school loud blueberry flavor is like gone now, it's more like a smooth blueberry/berry flavor with way less terps, not a fan of blue dream at all, way too much like a big bud strain for me, lacks flavor and potency big time. If you want a good quality high from a big yielding plant I would run green crack, it's a HUGE yielder and grows monstrous if you get the right cut, it can yield every bit as much as blue dream can , it's just as vigorous and the stacking is nuts. Only difference is the flavor is much more desirable and the high is much more euphoric.

i have blue berry seeds from dutch passion,bcbd,spliff,seedsman, and a few blue crosses like blue power from female,blue dream hso, blue dynamite next gen, and lots more.. the original dj short bb seeds fucked me out of $125.00 for 5 seeds that never grew..but like you i had a killer blue berry strain back in 99 or 2000 from marc emry.. blue berry taste, buds had that beautiful lavender color at any grow temp,,,oh my i miss it!!! seems like you said all the bb and crosses are missing the old school blue berry power...
 

GroErr

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blue dream is a sativa dom,,so that is why it may not have the punch your after,,sativa is great daytime weed bud i feel the indica or indica dominant hybrids can get the better knockdown,knockout punch power..ive been having bad luck popping seeds lately,,maybe 50% pop and come up well...then seems like 1 out of 5 of those are good mothers w/ the production,crystalization, and high im after..most seeds are only 3 years old and all wer kept w/ silica in a seed fridge,,,just bad luck i guess?? never before have i had less than 95% success in germination,, and normally got 4-5 killer moms in every 10 pack,,.. guess seeds are not what they wer back in the late 90's..



i have blue berry seeds from dutch passion,bcbd,spliff,seedsman, and a few blue crosses like blue power from female,blue dream hso, blue dynamite next gen, and lots more.. the original dj short bb seeds fucked me out of $125.00 for 5 seeds that never grew..but like you i had a killer blue berry strain back in 99 or 2000 from marc emry.. blue berry taste, buds had that beautiful lavender color at any grow temp,,,oh my i miss it!!! seems like you said all the bb and crosses are missing the old school blue berry power...
Yeah I'm comparing the HSO BD to others I have running which includes a couple of sat-dom daytime smoke, energetic etc. but they have a much stronger head stone. Who knows could be the pheno and since I can't get the clone/original I have no comparison to that one.

Sucks on the germ rates you're experiencing. I've had better luck with my own seeds and found that pheno hunting commercial regs is no different than my own crosses, more fun, and cheaper :)

I personally haven't experienced any issues with hybrid crosses with Blueberry, found a couple of killer phenos in my F2's crossed with Blueberry x JTR a few months back. Haven't smoked anything like those for years, but it took a while to hunt through many so-so phenos. Those have everything I was looking for, punch, ok/mid-level production and almost perfume smell/taste of Blueberry. Key to that cross imo was finding a male that stinks up my tent as if I were flowering a female.
 

Yodaweed

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blue dream is a sativa dom,,so that is why it may not have the punch your after,,sativa is great daytime weed bud i feel the indica or indica dominant hybrids can get the better knockdown,knockout punch power..ive been having bad luck popping seeds lately,,maybe 50% pop and come up well...then seems like 1 out of 5 of those are good mothers w/ the production,crystalization, and high im after..most seeds are only 3 years old and all wer kept w/ silica in a seed fridge,,,just bad luck i guess?? never before have i had less than 95% success in germination,, and normally got 4-5 killer moms in every 10 pack,,.. guess seeds are not what they wer back in the late 90's..



i have blue berry seeds from dutch passion,bcbd,spliff,seedsman, and a few blue crosses like blue power from female,blue dream hso, blue dynamite next gen, and lots more.. the original dj short bb seeds fucked me out of $125.00 for 5 seeds that never grew..but like you i had a killer blue berry strain back in 99 or 2000 from marc emry.. blue berry taste, buds had that beautiful lavender color at any grow temp,,,oh my i miss it!!! seems like you said all the bb and crosses are missing the old school blue berry power...
Yea it had that special taste it was so remarkable that once you had it you want it again so badly, I loved that flavor it was so loud and distinct , there really is nothing else like it.
 

TheChemist77

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Yeah I'm comparing the HSO BD to others I have running which includes a couple of sat-dom daytime smoke, energetic etc. but they have a much stronger head stone. Who knows could be the pheno and since I can't get the clone/original I have no comparison to that one.

Sucks on the germ rates you're experiencing. I've had better luck with my own seeds and found that pheno hunting commercial regs is no different than my own crosses, more fun, and cheaper :)

I personally haven't experienced any issues with hybrid crosses with Blueberry, found a couple of killer phenos in my F2's crossed with Blueberry x JTR a few months back. Haven't smoked anything like those for years, but it took a while to hunt through many so-so phenos. Those have everything I was looking for, punch, ok/mid-level production and almost perfume smell/taste of Blueberry. Key to that cross imo was finding a male that stinks up my tent as if I were flowering a female.

you know ive tinkered w/ breeding, as of late ive been focussed on taking pollen off my best,strongest females using tiresias mist, and using the pollen to create S1's and crosses with my other favorite moms.. its funny when i have thousands of seeds i paid for but really want to pop my own crosses insted..recently i took pollen from a spliff blue berry female, and pollen from a cherry bomb female made S1'S of both then crossed each,, i cant wait to see how the cross seeds go, cherry berry (cherry pollen on bbfem) and blue cherry(blue berry pollen on the cherry bomb fem)... i made S1'S off my th seeds bubble gum a wile ago and planted a bunch of seeds a few months ago,,all seeds popped and grew,,but interestingly i got a few different phenio's..bubble gum being a stabilized plant i thought id get stable S1's that wer just klike the original mom..i was wrong out of 20 plants all wer good but only 3 wer just like the mom,, i wanted to replace her w/ a seed mom as the original is now 2 years in of clone off clone moms,,but the original th seeds bubble gum is still my number 1 plant,,better smell crystal and production...i thought S1's wer suppose to be replicas?? any thoughts on this?? it took 2 try's just to get pollen off the b gum its a very strong female and does not herm easily,,still have lots of the s1 seeds,,,do i really need to keep popping them in hopes of finding an exact replica?? also can i back cross to a stable line using feminized pollen? any info appreciated
 

GroErr

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you know ive tinkered w/ breeding, as of late ive been focussed on taking pollen off my best,strongest females using tiresias mist, and using the pollen to create S1's and crosses with my other favorite moms.. its funny when i have thousands of seeds i paid for but really want to pop my own crosses insted..recently i took pollen from a spliff blue berry female, and pollen from a cherry bomb female made S1'S of both then crossed each,, i cant wait to see how the cross seeds go, cherry berry (cherry pollen on bbfem) and blue cherry(blue berry pollen on the cherry bomb fem)... i made S1'S off my th seeds bubble gum a wile ago and planted a bunch of seeds a few months ago,,all seeds popped and grew,,but interestingly i got a few different phenio's..bubble gum being a stabilized plant i thought id get stable S1's that wer just klike the original mom..i was wrong out of 20 plants all wer good but only 3 wer just like the mom,, i wanted to replace her w/ a seed mom as the original is now 2 years in of clone off clone moms,,but the original th seeds bubble gum is still my number 1 plant,,better smell crystal and production...i thought S1's wer suppose to be replicas?? any thoughts on this?? it took 2 try's just to get pollen off the b gum its a very strong female and does not herm easily,,still have lots of the s1 seeds,,,do i really need to keep popping them in hopes of finding an exact replica?? also can i back cross to a stable line using feminized pollen? any info appreciated
Yeah that's the thing with S1's, there's no guarantee, pop enough and you should find something close but it's not like clones. The more stable and true breeding the original is, the more likely you'll get something close. But trying to self poly's you may as well play the lottery. I tried a couple and wasn't pleased with the outcome either so I stick to regs until I have a very stable/true BX or F10+. I prefer to cross and back cross to try and replicate or get close to the original. Takes a lot longer but then you can also find some gems. Right now I've pulled 2x killer phenos of my Blue Ripper in the F2's, just back-crossed one to the F1 male that produced the F2's and will see what I can find in there.
 

TheChemist77

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Yeah that's the thing with S1's, there's no guarantee, pop enough and you should find something close but it's not like clones. The more stable and true breeding the original is, the more likely you'll get something close. But trying to self poly's you may as well play the lottery. I tried a couple and wasn't pleased with the outcome either so I stick to regs until I have a very stable/true BX or F10+. I prefer to cross and back cross to try and replicate or get close to the original. Takes a lot longer but then you can also find some gems. Right now I've pulled 2x killer phenos of my Blue Ripper in the F2's, just back-crossed one to the F1 male that produced the F2's and will see what I can find in there.
GOOD LUCK WITH THAT CROSS..i used to take the best male n female from packs of ten seeds to bx and stabilize,, but recently ive stopped,, so much work...i have too many seeds already, but u know how it is,,always wanting more..
 

GroErr

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GOOD LUCK WITH THAT CROSS..i used to take the best male n female from packs of ten seeds to bx and stabilize,, but recently ive stopped,, so much work...i have too many seeds already, but u know how it is,,always wanting more..
Cheers, have another pheno which is almost identical, terps aren't quite as loud but it's just as strong and a 53 day finisher like the other. That one just went into flowering so will be hit when it's ready just to hedge my bets. Agreed it's a lot of work and time, then sometimes you just chuck something random and find a killer pheno right off the bat!
 
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