grandpabear3
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right...that's what we're talkin about right.? sog? i dont veg my clones only the mums.
Clone to Flowering (LollyPopp'n)
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Lord Dangly Bits
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Not sure what the hell I am doing. Like today I was thinking I should clip off some of the lower branches on my cuttings, But I changed my mind. To afraid i will over to it. I will wait a few more days then decide. I have always vegged for 3-4 weeks first. This is my first trial at cuttings being placed directly into flower. They seem to be doing very well though. I definiately have bud sights starting now. They should be visible with my camera in the next few days.. SWEET!!!!!! At least I hope they turn out sweet.
grandpabear3
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well i hear you there man, i overdid it big time....ender up cutting 1/2 instead of a third. but just cut em religously at the end of the first and third week.
man you got it locked down! cant wait to see em. my first ones as you seen are waaaaay to tall and overpruned......oops
kinda cool to know a decent grower on here that is using the same method as me, other than al....he's busy.
cant wait for both of us to get everything dialed in and compare yield, and of course bud porn....feel a friendly rivalry comin on
grandpabear3
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so my clones are doin good, looking great ...still no roots on day 7. i'll wait patiently cause they are pretty. (funny thing how apparently all types of girls make us do that.
)but i was gone for 3 days and my tanks were not topped up with fresh h2o so the nutes shot up to between 15 and 1600ppm.
some are lost for sure i think i'm gonna lose 12 out of 18
anyway here are some depressing pics to bum everyone out with.
fuckin full blown claw and browning ....ick
the first pic is one of the 6 that are still doing awesome...they were ther strong ones. the liluns burnt up like nobody's buisness
fuckin 7000.00 investment and rising so far and i do this stupid shit.
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Lord Dangly Bits
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So I am at 3 weeks now since I placed these clones straight into flowering with Zero Veg time. They are showing bud growth now. But with this crappy camera they do not show up very well.
Check out how the one plant has to main stocks. I have three of them that are like this. They split below the surface of the soil. They are all about 12 inches tall. At least the ones that are 3 weeks old. A few of them are only about 2 weeks in now.
Still not to sure what I think about this method of growing. To soon to really get a feel for it.
Notice how there are no reall side branches execpt for the fan leafs.
I am sure the buds will be showing much better next week.
Check out how the one plant has to main stocks. I have three of them that are like this. They split below the surface of the soil. They are all about 12 inches tall. At least the ones that are 3 weeks old. A few of them are only about 2 weeks in now.
Still not to sure what I think about this method of growing. To soon to really get a feel for it.
Notice how there are no reall side branches execpt for the fan leafs.
I am sure the buds will be showing much better next week.
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naturalhigh
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hey guys looking good...however for true " LollyPopping" check out Urban grower...he has a whole show on this...what your guys are talking about is making donky dicks... and terminal buds...true lollypopping is growing a plant in a 2 to 5 gallon bucket and at 24 inchs you trim out the lower 1/3..then you have a true lollpop with 6 to 8 main colas per plant.... theres a guy somwhere on the net that did a test with clones in flower on huge 4 by 8 flood tables...if can find it i will post the pics...now those are empresssive...
Lord Dangly Bits
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I just find it very hard to tell my friends I have a crop of Donkey Dicks growing... hahahaha
Lord Dangly Bits
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Well, my little plants are now showing buds. SWEET!!! About 23 days now since these clones first popped roots. Well at least about half of them. The other half are about 14 days old.
I had first thought I was going to veg them for 7-10 days And then use a 1,000 HPS to flower them with no veg time.
I decided against this. What I did was, once they popped roots I stuck them under a t-5 light and about 6 (43) watt CFLS for 10-14 days, and then placed them under my 400 watt cfl. All of this time they were getting 12/12 light cycle. They have next to no side branches, other then the fan leafs. Here are a few pictures of my Little Ladies.
Oh. I have 11 Morning Glory, 1 White Widow, And 1 MANGO.... Love the smell of the MANGO. It is like tangy juicey fruit gum when it is flowering.
The last 3 photos are of 4 plants I have under my 1,000 watt light. These plants I vegged for two weeks. At the end of week two I clipped off all the lower branches that were below the middle point of the plants. I then stuck them under my HPS light on 12/12 cycle. They look to be doing fantastic. They have only been under the HPS for 4 weeks & 3 days right now. The buds are explodeing.
P.S. if you look close at the second to last photo, you will see a pack of cigs to help you get an idea of the size of these plants.
Hope you all enjoy my little mini garden.
I had first thought I was going to veg them for 7-10 days And then use a 1,000 HPS to flower them with no veg time.
I decided against this. What I did was, once they popped roots I stuck them under a t-5 light and about 6 (43) watt CFLS for 10-14 days, and then placed them under my 400 watt cfl. All of this time they were getting 12/12 light cycle. They have next to no side branches, other then the fan leafs. Here are a few pictures of my Little Ladies.
Oh. I have 11 Morning Glory, 1 White Widow, And 1 MANGO.... Love the smell of the MANGO. It is like tangy juicey fruit gum when it is flowering.
The last 3 photos are of 4 plants I have under my 1,000 watt light. These plants I vegged for two weeks. At the end of week two I clipped off all the lower branches that were below the middle point of the plants. I then stuck them under my HPS light on 12/12 cycle. They look to be doing fantastic. They have only been under the HPS for 4 weeks & 3 days right now. The buds are explodeing.
P.S. if you look close at the second to last photo, you will see a pack of cigs to help you get an idea of the size of these plants.
Hope you all enjoy my little mini garden.
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grandpabear3
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very nice man....their color is sooooo goooooood. just perfect. u suck
Lord Dangly Bits
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Hey naturalhigh. Are the Plants in the last three photos more like LollyPop'n then?
I still highly doubt I will ever be able to ask a friend if he wants to go smoke a big fat donkey dick...
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grandpabear3
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ya man, the batch in the tray with the burnt ones is doing fine...wich blows my mind!!
they should have been the first to go and they are fine....so no time lost just 1/2 of one harvest.
i'm thinkin bout gettin a lawyer to get the charged dropped or at least reduced down to involuntary plantslaughter
they should have been the first to go and they are fine....so no time lost just 1/2 of one harvest.
i'm thinkin bout gettin a lawyer to get the charged dropped or at least reduced down to involuntary plantslaughter
Lord Dangly Bits
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grandpabear3
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look at my beauties.....3 weeks to go
Lord Dangly Bits
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look at my beauties.....3 weeks to go
Nice Buds Bugsrnme. I am not so sure if I like the technic of Zero Veg time on the cuttings. The first 4 pictures are of my plants that I gave 7-10 days of vegs then flowered. They were also topped a few days before flowering, and also the bottom 1/3 of the branches and fan leafs were clipped off. The Last two photos are of the cuttings I sent straight into flowering with no veg time. These plants have been under 12/12 for about 3 1/2 weeks. The other plants have been under for 4 1/2 weeks. Same exact plants from the same mother. I think I like the 7-10 days of veg better. But you can not tell until both crops are harvested.
I am glad I did both technics though So I can get a better idea how both of them work. I am trying to find out how to fit as many smaller plants in a 3'X3' tray with max bud product with ease of manicureing. So far I think the 7-10 days of veg is the way I am going to go from now on. The No veg ones are now as tall as the ones that had 7-10 days, and the no veg hardly have much bud production yet. But they have stop growing vertical now. At least as fast at they were.
Anyone else have insight, info or experience in these two methods, please let us know what you think and all.
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oldbongwater
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the zero veg will produce 1 oz..if the clones are at least 10mm thick at base and have decent roots from cloning..otherwise vegging can be used..it is a matter of time..that is all
I'm hoping you mean 10cm, as in the leaf span. a 10mm trunk at the base is pretty huge for a clone, isn't it? 3 or 4mm might be common.
oldbongwater
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yes 10 mm is rather big, but that is the key to producing larger yields from the clones with zero veg time
The vast majority of my cuttings are larger than 5.5, most more than 10mm. The larger, thicker stemmed cuttings become bigger plants faster in SoG.
However, the difference in rooting speed and vigor was most pronounced with the poorer performance of the thinner stems, notably those under 4mm.
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The vast majority of my cuttings are larger than 5.5, most more than 10mm. The larger, thicker stemmed cuttings become bigger plants faster in SoG.
However, the difference in rooting speed and vigor was most pronounced with the poorer performance of the thinner stems, notably those under 4mm.
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How not to grow dope - 'Not Your Father's Marijuana' / 'new super cannabis' / 'extra potent hydro' myths busted
DIY batwing reflector - DIY power panel to keep electrics safe and neat - DIY low-temp 3-day bud dryer - Get a harvest every 2 weeks - Photoessay: A batch of clones in rockwool - Project Big Blue Bastard: DIY 5-tube, 100 watt UV ioniser
...and don't even THINK about asking me how to hide your grow from your MOM. This is an adult sport. Give it up until you grow up. thanks to Al B Fuqt
Lord Dangly Bits
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Now I am not saying you way is bad in anyway. But Holy SHIT!!! 10 MM is like 3/8" for me that is a huge cutting. I have never taken a cutting with that big of a stem. I have always taken the smaller softer cuttings. I have even taken a cutting from a Mango plant that was so young, but it was the only time I could take it. It was already two weeks old and budding. I had no reproduction of that mango. This cutting was tiny, like 1 1/2" tall and only 1/8" think.. About 3 MM. It took a long time to root. But it was healthy all the time. But then again, I never baby my cuttings. No heating pad, nothing but a cutting dome and water once a day in the rapid rooter if I remember. No misting. No babying. They take 7-14 days. I have had a few that have taken as long as 23 days. But I get about 90% success.
Oldbongwater, I am not trying to say you are wrong in your ways. I do not have years under my belt making cuttings. And I know of a few people who like Big thick stemed cuttings. Other then the plant just being taller to start? What about moisture lose? I clip off the end half of the leafs when I cut mine.
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