Trippyness
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Exactly, he is obviously not aware of science or how white light works.
My Amare, Hydroponics Hut, & SunCloak Grow
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Trippyness
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Because your spewing out wrong information that may lead newbies like yourself into a wrong direction...
Im sure they work fine, however what your saying is scientifically flawed.
born2grow1
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I'm not saying it doesn't matter what the readings are I'm saying there are other factors and yes pffd umol are big parts of growing but as said before very units get tested in intregated sphere so how can you judge what readings are what.
KarmaPaymentPlan
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seems to work for the rest of the science community
is that the maximizer with Cree chips from like 3 cob generations ago?
Except they do plenty of newb with grow journals and plenty of videos on youtube with very pleased cob growers getting 1.25gpw+ again thats newbs that are still learning experienced growers should be able to yield more and consistently do its posted on a regular bases
born2grow1
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Wow you guys are getting the wrong idea of what I'm trying to say I'm not saying umol or ppfd or the science behind it all is wrong at all I just stating there other factors to deal with that's just way to measure par etc
Big smo
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Should? Exactly my point that was so quickly over looked. Show some results becaus that's what matters. 10 Cx6 didn't and they are the best according to everyone. They don't get grief when recommended and yet the owner/ manufacturer/ grower with 10 of them didn't get 1gpw. im trying to take this from a science and efficient light debate and on to a results per light debate. These lights have one purpose only unless your selling them.
Trippyness
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You are changing what you have said. Regardless, continue the grow best of luck, but your outlook is wrong. Cheers.
Big smo
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My outlook is wrong because these GROW lights are not 100% up to yours or anyone else's spec sheet standards of being the best? Even though they are not intended to meet or beat any efficiency records but do PRODUCE more than anyone here has shown. That's the point, you can umole this or ppf that all you want but the bottom line is what they produce. Thats why I said umoles don't grow plants. The highest most efficient light could absolutely suck ass at growing. That was proven in that garden thread with 50 cobs. U know the vendor that left or was booted because he couldnt control his temper.
Buttt..... the meter and sheet of paper says it's the best lol, get real. You are missing the point these are grow lights. They grow as good or better than plain cobs. As far as being qualified I makes lights, sell lights locally and have had more cobs in my possession over the past 2 months than 99% of the people here that spend their lives studying spec sheets but don't actually use them to grow.
Hybridway
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That's absolutely not true & is one of the most well known facts in the cob grow light industry.
Stop lying n get to steppin!
We don't appreciate or respect those who tell lies around here either.
EVERYONE knows those lights you mentioned are all equal to each other & are said to be quality lights, but do NOT put out higher par #'s then Amare.
Are you new to led or something?
Do you have any real grows under your belt? People trust what I say cuz I show them experience in growing. With grows like mine, you can't afford to make compromises. That's why I use SunCloak & Amare
Hybridway
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How the hell did NG's n hatin Noobies get on my thread anyways?
If you guys want more #'s to play with rather then grow with, I'll be doing an Amare thread soon w/ a par-meter.
It will have all the par #'s from the company backed with my live readings & PPFD mapping as well as a full components with bins listed.
Even know Amare puts out higher #'s then any cob light or other that i can find, they also have the most proven spectrum for growing pot. The sun mimicked in a grow light.
The Pro-9 just beat the Florida sun in all the #'s. This study was just done recently & there are plenty more to come.
Well, back to growing.
I invite everyone to my threads, just try to only post facts guys. Thanks!
Oh yeah, NO NG's.
If you wanna come here to squabble over anything then at least post us a picture of your grow & the light you use. These NG's Know everything about Nothing & we don't need people reciting misinformation they read with no experience to back it up.
@born2grow1, welcome to the hatred of the jelly McVendor Buttlicking NG's around here. They usually stay clear of my threads do to all the real growing & facts. Don't mind them. They will always twist your words around in attempt to divert from their ignorance.
The only NG welcome on my threads is Abiqua cuz if it wasn't for him I don't know that i would've bought an Amare when I did. He was very helpful in helping me decide which light to buy. Again, thank you Al-B!
If you guys want more #'s to play with rather then grow with, I'll be doing an Amare thread soon w/ a par-meter.
It will have all the par #'s from the company backed with my live readings & PPFD mapping as well as a full components with bins listed.
Even know Amare puts out higher #'s then any cob light or other that i can find, they also have the most proven spectrum for growing pot. The sun mimicked in a grow light.
The Pro-9 just beat the Florida sun in all the #'s. This study was just done recently & there are plenty more to come.
Well, back to growing.
I invite everyone to my threads, just try to only post facts guys. Thanks!
Oh yeah, NO NG's.
If you wanna come here to squabble over anything then at least post us a picture of your grow & the light you use. These NG's Know everything about Nothing & we don't need people reciting misinformation they read with no experience to back it up.
@born2grow1, welcome to the hatred of the jelly McVendor Buttlicking NG's around here. They usually stay clear of my threads do to all the real growing & facts. Don't mind them. They will always twist your words around in attempt to divert from their ignorance.
The only NG welcome on my threads is Abiqua cuz if it wasn't for him I don't know that i would've bought an Amare when I did. He was very helpful in helping me decide which light to buy. Again, thank you Al-B!
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born2grow1
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Yah man I agree 100% and thank you for having me here love your journals and showing us growers love and yah a lot these other so to speak other growers don't ever post their results which for me I'm all organic and this my second run with this light and first time running this strain and I'm definitely pulling 1.5 out 4×4 which is awesome in my eyes and I don't have everything dialied in yet for this strain. Also I'm not running any ço2 either so how can 550watts mostly Amare lighting be not be a superior grow light most guys brag of 1000 watt running co2 getting 2 pounds if their lucky. when you can use half power with better medicine. That's equation I don't think they understand
Trippyness
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This is getting absurd.
You know very little about plant growth obviously when you have no regard for PPFD.
I am not here to fight you on anything. Pointing out that your wasting wattage and could be getting the same yield with less.
<Meaning Amaer is not the best light around buddy.
Meaning your amare light is inefficient compared to current gen COB lights.
Regardsless. Ill be unwatching this thread. Your understanding of plant growth is very little regards.}Trippy
You know very little about plant growth obviously when you have no regard for PPFD.
I am not here to fight you on anything. Pointing out that your wasting wattage and could be getting the same yield with less.
<Meaning Amaer is not the best light around buddy.
Meaning your amare light is inefficient compared to current gen COB lights.
Regardsless. Ill be unwatching this thread. Your understanding of plant growth is very little regards.}Trippy
born2grow1
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Big smo
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I'm not here to fight but I'll clutter up a thread with your bullshit? Again where is the proof that these other lights that are so much better? Get your head around the science of growing plants and actually grow something. I have asked twice and now 3 times and this keeps getting overlooked. You are a complete fool to say that guys who PRODUCE know little when you just keep talking trash with nothing to back it up. It is not some sort of hidden knowledge that 50w crees are more efficient than 100w or 3070's are less efficient than the 3590's This isn't even my thread and it's sad for the op to have this going but I'm sure he feels very close to the same about the talkes who don't grow. Come to my thread if you want to keep up with your stupid comments.
Hybridway
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Who are you even talking to? You picking on the new guy cuz he comes from a forum where they post results n may not be down w/ all the RIU smarty-pants lingo?. Try that shit w/ me punk.
Why don't you go peep my other threads/journals then come back here after you understand better what knowledge I do or don't have. Then you may not be so quick to say I don't know what I'm talking about.
You think that guy or any of us are gonna pull 1.5 pounds with 250 watts then you have the magic light we all want. I've never seen poor results from an Amare user yet. Even the new growers pull .8-1.2 GPW their first run. My first time using my SE-450 (also first time using led) I pulled 18+ oz. in a 4'x4' with terrible plants, not tending my grow at all n I even got mites at the end. Threw it together n winged it publicly on a journal here. 18 z of good bud another 2 z of popcorn from not lolli-popping, testing the lights penetration abilities.
Fact is, I never see other companies lights pulling higher #'s on average on any threads, people I know here or GC.
That's just what we see. I know my plants n all I can say is they give me more of better tree then I ever got from my hps room. Didn't make the switch off a blind reading from some forum poster saying make the switch cuz cobs/led works better. I did the testing & the reading & question asking. Put in the work.
You say their in efficient running at 48-52 % depending on which light you pick. I say their doing what it takes to make one fixture yield as much as possible of the best medical as possible to date.
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Evil-Mobo
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What is absurd is that:
#1) You build 1 light and think you're an expert spewing your BS all over the LED section as of late which you have no grows to back up. All you are doing is regurgitating what "other" people have told you.
#2) You come into a thread with Amare in the title to bash the OP about Amare? get real.
I have asked you for proof in your own grows before and you have provided none and avoided my questions. This thread here is for growers not data sheet Nazi's. The sphere testing recently already proves the COB's are NOT as efficient as everyone thought and "calculated". Come back when you have grown something to back up your claims if not leave this thread in peace. There's plenty of other thread you are in with this crap.
In this thread you put up or shut and learn something, you should try and listen twice as much as you spew BS you might learn a thing or two.
KarmaPaymentPlan
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Can we keep the Amare propaganda in this thread so i dont have to see it wreck others?
I think thats what started it was the bad plugging on all the threads, so maybe we can all play nice?
I think thats what started it was the bad plugging on all the threads, so maybe we can all play nice?
Evil-Mobo
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What's your beef?