Hps vs New L.E.D.s

Afgan King

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34#=544oz=15504g. 14 1000w gavitas use over 1000 watts each...thats not 2.4g per watt and not real impresive. Even if they are 600w thats under 2g a w...plus how much ac are you running?
Only run them at 1000 you do know you can do that right? And I do 2 a light with hps. 14000 watts running = 34.27lbs but that's not impressive lmao what you get? Lets see your numbers and quality of weed please id love to know how a master such as yourself not impressed with these measly numbers does. So please post on btw here's a closeup of the weed pulled but I'm sure you've seen better quality too huh? I mean shit we just suck on this side IMG_20160923_220740349_HDR.jpg
 

Afgan King

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34#=544oz=15504g. 14 1000w gavitas use over 1000 watts each...thats not 2.4g per watt and not real impresive. Even if they are 600w thats under 2g a w...plus how much ac are you running?
Electric costs 1200 a month crop every two months so 32lbs on last crop for a cost of 2400$ in electric so cost of 1lb and then those other 31 get donated at 2k a piece in one move. This run was 34.27lbs again 2400 in electric for those 2months and 33lbs get donated for 2k a piece in one move......ya not real impressive to spend 2400 and make 60+ grand every two months.....shitty numbers bet you could do better huh? You ever work with 14 lights? I mean I've grown in rooms with 45 lights but I'm sure a master like you has done bigger
 

Afgan King

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That's bad ass man!
Ya gavitas are the shit can Control like the sun we will now that its fall ramp up for first 2 hours to 1000 then 1150 for the next 8 hours then go back down to 1000 and slowly die down for next two hours. Seen some crazy grows where the plants respond to the lights acting like this. Pretty cool honestly
 

Lordhooha

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Ya gavitas are the shit can Control like the sun we will now that its fall ramp up for first 2 hours to 1000 then 1150 for the next 8 hours then go back down to 1000 and slowly die down for next two hours. Seen some crazy grows where the plants respond to the lights acting like this. Pretty cool honestly
Ive seen them in person they're pretty cool. I just like led an that's why I use them. In general my grows are no where near yours I only do 24 total. 12 in veg and 12 in the bloom room. Much respect to you and your grow.
 

Afgan King

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Ive seen them in person they're pretty cool. I just like led an that's why I use them. In general my grows are no where near yours I only do 24 total. 12 in veg and 12 in the bloom room. Much respect to you and your grow.
Oh I love LEDs I'm just waiting till I have absolute proof that I will pull the same if not more. Idc about electric cost idc about nutes cost I care about quality and consistency. I use hps and have no issues with quality or weight. Don't have ceiling height for gavitas myself but the hps work great. I'd love to do all LEDs hell I been telling @ttystikk to throw me some and let me pay for em over the next grow and let me be his tester lol cuz i can have side by side rooms same everything but lights and do real experimenting with 20+ flowering plants a room lol I like LEDs man I really do and i know the potential is there just waiting for it to prove it undoubtedly and I'll switch lol
 

Lordhooha

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Oh I love LEDs I'm just waiting till I have absolute proof that I will pull the same if not more. Idc about electric cost idc about nutes cost I care about quality and consistency. I use hps and have no issues with quality or weight. Don't have ceiling height for gavitas myself but the hps work great. I'd love to do all LEDs hell I been telling @ttystikk to throw me some and let me pay for em over the next grow and let me be his tester lol cuz i can have side by side rooms same everything but lights and do real experimenting with 20+ flowering plants a room lol I like LEDs man I really do and i know the potential is there just waiting for it to prove it undoubtedly and I'll switch lol
I just bought two of these tonight I should get them next week!
https://www.ledgrowlightsdepot.com/collections/1000-watt-hid-replacements/products/lifted-led-city-14

Check them out they seem insane they gave me a good bit off when I spoke to them today.
 

rob333

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Not sure about what goes on in ND. Not sure it matters.
Dutch silicon valley isn't really a thing.

Your physics/biology knowledge looks to be on PAR with your spelling.
gotta love a grammer nazi you no when they have shit to back up there cause they will attack someones grammer next time let me no we were getting marks on how we spell shit ya toss bag
 

rob333

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vicotry lighting i was going to say is a chinese led dealer but they are punching out good cob leds built with clu and epistar inbox me if use would like a pricing list
 

rob333

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starts at 66$ us for a 300w epistar led grow light 98$ for the clu taiwaan famous led lights
 

Banana444

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Oh I love LEDs I'm just waiting till I have absolute proof that I will pull the same if not more. Idc about electric cost idc about nutes cost I care about quality and consistency. I use hps and have no issues with quality or weight. Don't have ceiling height for gavitas myself but the hps work great. I'd love to do all LEDs hell I been telling @ttystikk to throw me some and let me pay for em over the next grow and let me be his tester lol cuz i can have side by side rooms same everything but lights and do real experimenting with 20+ flowering plants a room lol I like LEDs man I really do and i know the potential is there just waiting for it to prove it undoubtedly and I'll switch lol
Nice setup, your living the dream. I wish i could quit my dad job and blow it up that big. I will be there one day, but for now i rock a 9x10 room perpetual. I know there are a lot of very valid complaints about leds and 99% of led grow light marketed are crap when compared to gavitas or cmh. But honemade leds, if you got the skills to make a solid light that is going to run cool and is not going to burn out diodes, they will last at least ten years with no need to replace anything. Ive never had an led burn out, but i have built all my lights exept for 1, and for the price inpaid for that i felt it was a bit steep for what i could have bought in parts to build my own.
 

mauricem00

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How can you really say they are the way to go ??? people are getting decent results with cob' tech its not going to stop there look at the stocks ? Cree has leveled off and is dropping could 2018 bring out a better lighting technology ??
Well if we look at our advancements from 10 years ago YES Cree cobs will be the HPS of the led industry

With all the fairy tales and lies we see and here daily Yes even from growers on here claiming unreal yields specially with cobs soon anyone can really say yes its better efficient.. But it lacks in penetration and with that yield more efficient less yield ???

Kinda sounds like a moot point but is it ??? Lets have a look HPS you need AC units cause of the heat ??? well i have grown now for over 35 years consistently and only start indoor growing in end of oct with fresh air in 6 - 8 k rooms no AC needed actually use the heat for my benefit

Point being is claims you need to cool down your room and ventilation there for operating costs are more ???
Well when we look at normal grow room design ventilation / Fresh air is one of the most important parts of any design or properly built grow rooms and even tents have i vents

i can post millions of pictures of heat stressed Cob grows so again another well orchestrated lie
that LED or cob does not produce heat truth is all power sources produce heat if that wast not the case WTF would a person need a heat sink for ??

And last is how tight has a person gone worrying about 1 - 3 dollar savings a month on power cause that is what it really comes down to pennies
From the moment you took your first breath was the moment sometime in the future you will take your last breath

Same thing applies with everything including lights from the moment its turned on its slow path to death is going to happen sooner or later

So which is better well it comes down to what are you growing in a bread box or a green house or a regular room ..
work with what you got learn try new things which means yes even new lighting

But truth is there is really no better LED Cob or HPS find the one that suits you and that is it

Makes me sick when i here Hid destroyer or cob,
is so much better .. its not it never has been its just another light source an what may work good for your situation here one plant grow 1000 watts over 8 pound what is that for GPW anyone ??? you know anyone with them Einstein skills lol

Yup cob destroyer lol View attachment 3805460

Have a great day :)
seems like your wasting your time arguing with the LED crowd. i'm a small scale PU MMJ closet growers. for my environment T5s work best. I have tried LEDs (mars hydro,UFO with 10 watt diodes,vero 18s. cree 3070s) and was not impressed. (lower yield and quality). the term "full spectrum" is used a lot and is very misleading.the light may put out some energy from 380-760nm but it is far from a balanced spectrum. even the mars hydro with it's low power 3 watt diodes can burn plants if placed too close. and LEDs may produce high PPF numbers at the center but those numbers drop of rapidly as you move away from that center focal point so you get "hot spots" and uneven coverage. CMH and T5s produce a better SPD and more uniform coverage. veg time and genetics (strain) have big influence on yield.there are very few true medical strains ( 1to1ratio THC/CBD) and for MMJ patients quality and effectiveness is far more important than GPW. I want long lasting relief with the smallest dose possible. I don't want the "cheech and chong experience". I want to be as active and clear headed as possible
 
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