HELP!>I spray'd 2 much Alcohol on leaves with mites, plant is dying! Newb, rapid responses, please .

Doo-flop

Doo-flop

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Front360, if it was mine I think I'd either pull it & start again, or cut back all the damaged leaves, they won't get better again, don't take too much off, just the damaged bits, if half a leaf is ok, cut it in half and save the good bit. Hopefully it will live, but even if it does make it, it might be no good, the listerine etc might of soaked into the buds and could make them taste funny (minty fresh) At the end of the day it's up to you, good luck though
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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i don't think the listerine taste will linger, but the alcohol probably washed a lot of the trichs off, may have cost yourself some potency
 
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front360

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Well I'm definitely not pulling my first grow for the trash yet. Guys/gals, it has about ~2 weeks left before harvest, and most of the damage dried up the big fan leaves and most of the medium fan leaves. There are still some small fan leaves(technical name unknown), and it seems like all the sugar leaves/buds are intact. Can I start by using any of the nutes I listed in the OP, as a foliage spray to strengthen dried leaves and grow new leaves? Someone told me, or I read something that said to use B-52(Vitamins etc.) as a foliar spray

Should I go ahead and place her in the tub, cover the soil and Smart Pot(in black garbage bag), and let the shower head flush the residue from the leaves and the rest of the plant? If so, how long should I take cleaning the plant, that's above the soil? Maybe 15 minutes? Warm or cold water, because I don't want to dissolve anymore Triches? After this should I flush the soil, using 15 gallons of warm water? Warm water to help dissolve the salt solids and other nutes? I heard that you needed 3 times the pot size(5 gallons). Or do I just run water until the runoff runs clear? Finally, do I put all my nutes back in the soil right after the flush? Then only use water along with A.N. Flawless Finish for the final 2 weeks before harvest? This newb thanks all the rollitup community, for his/her help and for answering these new :?:'s to help me form a game plan.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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the technical name for small fan leaves is "small fan leaves"
who have you heard all this from? because they're full of shit.
the alcohol is long gone, all you're doing spraying the plant all the time is washing off essential oils and making them dry out. stop it.
and you don't have to flush. ever. period. its a myth, it does not a damn thing worth doing. don't care what your friend says, he's wrong. so is hightimes, and mel frank and wtf else says to flush.
if you have a lot of salts in your pot because you never water to runoff, then you might have a reason to leach your pot, and then you would pick up with a light feeding schedule till you were sure it had corrected the problem.
but you flush a toilet, not a plant, and theres no reason to leach a plants container before harvest. period.
 
iHearAll

iHearAll

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lol yea alcohol evaporates in a few minutes. you're good on that. id stick with feeding the roots. don't bother foliar feeding this late unless it's just an organic pest repellent or something keeping you from another type of disaster. XD.

did you get a clone?
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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if you have one stem with a few good leaves on it you could take a clone and try again.
i have revegged a plant after it flowered, it took about 3 months to start growing any normal looking new growth, and it was kind of akward looking with the skeleton of the old plant as its base, but i used it for clones, that all grew like monster cropped clones, very stout and bushy, all about 3 feet tall after the stretch
 
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front360

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iHearAll said:
yea how would you flush a raised bed???? you'd be shooting yourself in the foot there. recycle
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Huh, a raised bed? I would have flushed the soil in the bathtub, just using a lot more water than I usually would, until the runoff ran clear. I do feed until I get like 10% runoff for a normal feeding, but it's always dirty colored, nute water runoff.
 
iHearAll

iHearAll

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front360 said:
Huh, a raised bed? I would have flushed the soil in the bathtub, just using a lot more water than I usually would, until the runoff ran clear. I do feed until I get like 10% runoff for a normal feeding, but it's always dirty colored, nute water runoff.
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it was an outdoors comparison
 
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front360

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
if you have one stem with a few good leaves on it you could take a clone and try again.
i have revegged a plant after it flowered, it took about 3 months to start growing any normal looking new growth, and it was kind of akward looking with the skeleton of the old plant as its base, but i used it for clones, that all grew like monster cropped clones, very stout and bushy, all about 3 feet tall after the stretch
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I thought I read that you are to take and use a cutting during the Veg. stage, but I guess you're telling me now, that's bullsh*t too, lol.
Should I add A.N Sensi Grow A&B back into my normal feeding of Sense Bloom A&B, Big Bud, B-52 and Overtime or would that be Nitrogen overload? I was thinking that maybe it would help heal the dry leaves and start some new growth to fill in all the leaves that died. If so, should I change the light schedule or keep it at 12/12?
When it's time, should I just harvest the top 2/3rds and maybe reveg the bottom 1/3 with a different light schedule? The bottom third would have about 14 nodes or is that actually referred to as 7 pairs of nodes. Is that good or would I want to chop it up higher for some more nodes? Any higher and they are normal buds, not like the lower ones which are popcorn sized and smaller.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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front360 said:
Huh, a raised bed? I would have flushed the soil in the bathtub, just using a lot more water than I usually would, until the runoff ran clear. I do feed until I get like 10% runoff for a normal feeding, but it's always dirty colored, nute water runoff.
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thats fine, means its washing the old salts out, if it ever goes clear that means you're doing it too much
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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you normally would take a cutting during veg, usually shortly before the switch to flower. some people take them during flower, its called monster cropping, the clones are a little harder to root, but they will grow weird 3 fingered leaves for a while, like they're revegging, then get really bushy. i was just suggesting it as a way to have another chance growing this plant without it getting damaged.
you aren't going to heal the damaged leaves, the damage is permanent, leaves won't heal, the plant will just grow some new ones if it feels like it needs them.
if you want to try again, you can do exactly what you suggested. you can even harvest most of the popcorn if you want. as long as a few leaves remain the plant will eventually start growing new growth.
i would go very lightly with the nutes right now. i'd give them a little N, but just a little. mabe half strentgh on the bloom nutes and quarter strength on w/e you add for N
 
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front360

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Well, all the fan leaves are gone. Will the sugar leaves continue to make the buds larger or doesn't it work like that? Or will the nutrient water make the buds continue to grow bigger? I just trying to figure out if I should start chopping it now, or is there a chance that the Triches will replenish themselves?
 
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front360

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Thanks guys, I'm sorry for all the following questions but the answers would really help.
There are basically only 6 fan leaves left on the plant, the alcohol killed the rest. I just noticed 3 new straight white hairs on the top flower. I was waiting a little longer to see if the trichs will regrow too. When I do decide to finally flush the soil plant, how do I go about doing it? I have Flawless Finish to use too. Do I stop all other nutes and just feed water with Flawless Finish for 2 weeks? Do I start by putting the plant in the bathtub and give it 3 times the water I usually give? Its in a 5 gallon Smart Pot, so if I usually fed it 1 gallon, would I use 3 gallons water(with Flawless Finish) to start the flush? How do I get the chlorophyll out of the 6 fan leaves, sugar leaves and the bud? Or does starving the plant of nutes take care of that? Does the light cycle stay at 12/12 until harvest? I read somewhere to leave the plant in total darkness the last two days but I'm not sure if that's true. Anything else you think of, please teach me.
 
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