Ca Prop 64 effect date..?

[doublejj]

We recalled our Governor when he tried to pass unwanted laws. I am for 64 just to get the legalization ball rolling. If they try and mess it up, we can make our displeasure known.

it sells out the medical patient.....not good law mo. quit thinking only of yourself

 

[Mohican]

If both of you could post excerpts of the proposition that show your point I would be very interested to see it.

Thanks,
Mo

 

[doublejj]

If both of you could post excerpts of the proposition that show your point I would be very interested to see it.

Thanks,
Mo

f*cking thing is too long mo, too much legaleze.. just read it, it should scare the hell out of you

 

[Mohican]

I have two lawyers in the family. One is pro legalization and one is against. I am having them help me wade through the legalese to determine what is doable and what wont hold up in court.

 

[doublejj]

64 kills medical collective growing & makes it harder on the patient

 

[Mohican]

When it is legal there will be more red tape and expenses for commercial growers. However, they will also be able to take tax deductions on all of their expenses.

Patients will be able to get their medicine paid for by insurance!

 

[doublejj]

When it is legal there will be more red tape and expenses for commercial growers. However, they will also be able to take tax deductions on all of their expenses.

Patients will be able to get their medicine paid for by insurance!

LOL...you don't really believe that do you mo?!

 

[potroastV2]

64 kills medical collective growing & makes it harder on the patient

LOL ... you don't really believe that, do you JJ?

 

[CannaBruh]

ONe thing that is troubling, is that someone brought up the point that this being a vote of the people would have implications onto 215 (which would require a vote of the people to change which 64 grants) , which others say it won't, but I read that it does in the fine print. That would be most unfortunate if by voting for this the people give up their power with 215, that would be a huge oversight (maybe intentional?)

Seems like there's a lot of hidden agenda on both sides really, seems like ACA all over again.
I really want the thing to pass because the implications are huge outside of California, however I really don't want to fall into snake-oil trap punting the 215 folks into some hell they cannot get out of.

 

[doublejj]

ONe thing that is troubling, is that someone brought up the point that this being a vote of the people would have implications onto 215 (which would require a vote of the people to change which 64 grants) , which others say it won't, but I read that it does in the fine print. That would be most unfortunate if by voting for this the people give up their power with 215, that would be a huge oversight (maybe intentional?)

Seems like there's a lot of hidden agenda on both sides really, seems like ACA all over again.
I really want the thing to pass because the implications are huge outside of California, however I really don't want to fall into snake-oil trap punting the 215 folks into some hell they cannot get out of.

fails* the sniff test

 

[doublejj]

LOL ... you don't really believe that, do you JJ?

Bro I really really really wanted to vote for 64....then I read it again & again....it does not help medical patients at the expense of retail taxes. sells them out, to make money for the state.

 

[BobBitchen]

If both of you could post excerpts of the proposition that show your point I would be very interested to see it.

Thanks,
Mo

Section 10 amendment ..
the Legislature can amend anything it wants with a two-thirds vote

 

[BobBitchen]

they are not going to lose MONEY on MMJ.
taxation & REGULATION
vote 64 in, then you have NO protection under 215...period

 

[twostrokenut]

If I get caught, here in Cali, growing without a rec and scripts. Its a civil infraction, not criminal. It the rest of the state different?

Let's not forget how many fucks were given about growing here even before prop 215, zero; zero fucks.

 

[A.K.A. Overgrowem]

If both of you could post excerpts of the proposition that show your point I would be very interested to see it.

Thanks,
Mo

Go to the High Times site, listen to Russ', 10 myths on Amendment 64. No need to reinvent the wheel it's all there for anyone who want's to listen.

 

[BobBitchen]

Im sure the government has my best medical interests in mind & not extracting money from me

 

[Mohican]

When will I be able to get a Volcano at the CVS?

 

[doublejj]

When will I be able to get a Volcano at the CVS?

do you believe in alternative reality mo?....

 

[Mohican]

When they force us to use "real" doctors for medical, the insurance companies will most certainly be required to pay for it. And my vape!

Laws are two way streets. Every time they try to single out cannabis in a new law they will be challenged by either existing laws or, the law will be expanded to encompass other products (like a pill tax). When that happens, the lawyers are going to get rich and the regulations are going to become more realistic.

Getting people out of jail for cannabis infractions is a high priority on my list.

 

[doublejj]

When they force us to use "real" doctors for medical, the insurance companies will most certainly be required to pay for it. And my vape!

Laws are two way streets. Every time they try to single out cannabis in a new law they will be challenged by either existing laws or, the law will be expanded to encompass other products (like a pill tax). When that happens, the lawyers are going to get rich and the regulations are going to become more realistic.

Getting people out of jail for cannabis infractions is a high priority on my list.

Kaiser medical is in Colorado.....Colorado has been legal for years.....Kaiser still will not write prescriptuons in Colorado......insurance companies have NONE intention of paying for pot. Not gonna happen mo