Big_Lou
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But what if we just went over and grabbed Al-Assad in the pussy, tho? Y'know, really move in on him like a bitch and try to fuck him even though he's married.
He's rich, so it should't be a problem...
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He's rich, so it should't be a problem...
socalcoolmx
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How come Israel won't listen to International organizations? Israel is a rogue country (funded and protected by the US) not following international law but you want US to be a whore for Saudi and Israel and go to war with any and all of their enemies
Unclebaldrick
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So? Yeah, we support them. It is a long relationship full of ups and downs. This is not the best time for them. They too have gone the way of electing a nationalist leader who is out of step with our desires. We also support their neighbors for the most part, and life goes on in the hottest little corner of the world.
People who have no ability to entertain subtlety or contradictions have no business mouthing off on foreign affairs. Take your Zionism bullshit to the Klan rally.
socalcoolmx
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Assad is a brutal leader but he was elected by the majority of Syrians so we must respect their sovereignty,
Oh no here we go again
break out the freedom fries
Oh no here we go again
break out the freedom fries
Unclebaldrick
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Not even you could believe that.
bluntmassa1
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Then go to a Trump thread.
growman3666
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Putins intrests are far from Humanitarian and driving out terrorists. His propaganda of being the "Peacemaker" is going up all over Russia. Preparing 40 million people for nuclear fallout is more than just a safety check for his people. Its another means of propaganda making the russians believe he is looking out for their best interest and safety when he is not. When actually there is something sinister hidden in his motives.
I believe his motives will not be known until there is something he can use as an excuse for them. I.e. something the United States does. By then He will have the Russian public in whole believing that it is absolutely our fault and we are monsters needing to be stopped.
Communist and Socialist countries will always be inside their own bubble, making propaganda an utmost effective means to get exactly what you want done by hiding it in promises of what is in the interest of the people.
I believe his motives will not be known until there is something he can use as an excuse for them. I.e. something the United States does. By then He will have the Russian public in whole believing that it is absolutely our fault and we are monsters needing to be stopped.
Communist and Socialist countries will always be inside their own bubble, making propaganda an utmost effective means to get exactly what you want done by hiding it in promises of what is in the interest of the people.
Unclebaldrick
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Russia is not communist anymore, they are a free market cleptocracy. I think you need to think about what you hold as socialism though. Most modern democracies have varying degrees of socialism. Social security, medicare and medicaid are socialist in nature.
growman3666
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Absolutely. Bigger government is absolutely socialism in a degree.
Unclebaldrick
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I don't see this as a bad thing.
growman3666
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This is what I still get tripped up over. At what point have we completely gotten away from what this country was founded on. Me myself I have an absolute neutral stance right now. I am not far to the left or right. I have always been raised by my father the believe in the constitution so that has whats been instilled in me since a child.
Unclebaldrick
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When we close our borders to people on the basis of their religion, skin color, etc.
The world is complicated in a way that makes no sense to people in 1789. Small government directed by farmer/poiticians is not really cutting it.
growman3666
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In this way i agree and why my stance is quite neutral.
Unclebaldrick
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The Constitution is not magic. It is an agreement between people. It is not infallible. It counted people as fractions based on skin color. Just keep that in mind. The founding fathers did not believe they were creating the tablets that god gave Moses - why do we?
growman3666
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I agree in this sence and in the fact that the hour and the day are different than then.
Its the matter that if we stray from what we have fought and died for where then does our identity lie? If we can take away from one constitutional right then we can take away from all. These rights were formed as freedom of oppresion from government and anything else that wishes. I believe in our constitution because it protects me from my government shall it wish to commit acts that take away my freedoms. As of right now in this day I do not trust my government Im sorry but I dont. I am relieved that I have my constitutional rights even if thats all i have protecting me.
Unclebaldrick
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I have not taken away any rights. Why do you think government does? We task our government with protecting our rights. You do realize that the Constitution is interpreted different ways by different people, right? Are you suggesting that if people left alone from oversight would respect other peoples' rights? I do not believe that. That is why we have laws.
growman3666
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I dont think they have but i believe there are people in our government that may wish too.
No im not saying that at all. Government is absolutely necessary. Without government we have no nation. Im not saying that government is bad at all im saying My rights protect me from said government should their agenda change. I appreciate that. If the government can take away from one of these rights they absolutely can take away from all. Rendering my rights obsolete. I do not trust our government the way id like to because of certain people (Trump) and the way self interest and self gain is a character in human nature. I believe there are honest people working for us to govern with responsibility and compassion. I am just once again grateful for the protection of my rights against those who are not.
growman3666
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I joined the military for the sole reason to defend my rights and the rights of my family. To protect freedom. I will fight and die for freedom I would die so that my family shall live free.
I left after 4 because I refuse to be used as a pawn in some fucks political agenda. (Bush is a good example) WWMDs my fucking ass.
I will however if my homeland, freedom and that of my families is threatened, join again in second.
I left after 4 because I refuse to be used as a pawn in some fucks political agenda. (Bush is a good example) WWMDs my fucking ass.
I will however if my homeland, freedom and that of my families is threatened, join again in second.
growman3666
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If words of that manner ever left my mouth my mother would slap me silly. I would fear her reaction from 1000 miles away.