First grow a disaster! (I think) Pics.

[whitebb2727]

not to beat an old horse my man...
but I recently harvested some from seed, and I STILL don't see a taproot...
but I love ya allllll the same..
I honestly think it's because the definition of "taproot" in my head, and my reasoning, resembles a carrot/radish/dandelion.
so I suppose it's all about what one's interpretation of it is.

You wont see it late. The tap root grows first, then secondary then lateral roots. You are seeing lateral roots.

A carrot is just one type of tap root. Look at the Britannica link. All plants with cotyledons have tap roots.

Like I said we will have to agree to disagree.

 

[whitebb2727]

Just because a plant has many, many secondary and lateral roots doesn't mean it is without a tap root.

 

[greasemonkeymann]

You wont see it late. The tap root grows first, then secondary then lateral roots. You are seeing lateral roots.

A carrot is just one type of tap root. Look at the Britannica link. All plants with cotyledons have tap roots.

Like I said we will have to agree to disagree.

yea, like I said last time, under that premise, you are correct.

If it's any consolation to you, I think of you EVERY time I look at a rootball though
Ain't that sweet??

 

[whitebb2727]

yea, like I said last time, under that premise, you are correct.

If it's any consolation to you, I think of you EVERY time I look at a rootball though
Ain't that sweet??
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Cool. I think of you and the argument as well.
I'm stubborn.

Food for thought.

We all agree a dandelion has a tap root.

The first pic is dandelion and the second cannabis. They look the same to me. @Yodaweed

 

[CriticalCheeze]

Gonna have to side with white on this 1 lol

 

[whitebb2727]

Anyways, my point being that first main root is what determines flower in ruderalis.

 

[whitebb2727]

Ok here is a botany journal that actually calls it a taproot.
https://cannabissativabiol2061.wordpress.com/botany-a-study-of-marijuana-from-pollen-to-pot/

 

[greasemonkeymann]

Gonna have to side with white on this 1 lol

begrudgingly I agree, sorta..
like I said before, he does win the argument.
it's interpretation of it, and technically he is correct.

 

[Alexander Supertramp]

The post mentioned he was concerned with the leaves yellowing. I was just saying that is normal for the leaves to yellow while plant is late in flower.

Its not normal. Its a sign of a deficiency. A cannabis plant should be green and healthy from start too finish.

 

[CriticalCheeze]

Its not normal. Its a sign of a deficiency. A cannabis plant should be green and healthy from start too finish.

Definitely normal to have some fan leaves yellowing at the end close to harvest...

 

[whitebb2727]

Definitely normal to have some fan leaves yellowing at the end close to harvest...

I agree, some will yellow. If a leave is yellow and feels healthy to the touch, looks healthy and doesn't easily fall off then its fine. Autos tend to yellow at the end anyways.

 

[iHearAll]

Cool. I think of you and the argument as well.
I'm stubborn.

Food for thought.

We all agree a dandelion has a tap root.
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The first pic is dandelion and the second cannabis. They look the same to me. @Yodaweed

there's more large side roots for it to be considers fibrous i think.

 

[iHearAll]

eh maybe not.

 

[whitebb2727]

begrudgingly I agree, sorta..
like I said before, he does win the argument.
it's interpretation of it, and technically he is correct.

No hard feelings. I enjoy a good debate where people don't resort to flinging crap.

I certainly don't know everything and I make mistakes. Lol. That is documented in my thread.

I can also certainly see your side of the argument as well.

 

[whitebb2727]

there's more large side roots for it to be considers fibrous i think.

I can see why people think fibrous.

The botany journal I posted called it a lateral taproot. It is a tap root that builds many lateral roots for water absorption. Lateral or secondary roots then make many more finer roots.

In indoor growing those roots circle the pot and the tap is hidden. Next time you pull a stock up, don't pull the whole root ball. The main root will come up.

People think taproot and think carrot. That is correct. It is a type of taproot, a tuber.

An image search for "taproot" shows carrots and dandelions but also shows others like trees and shrubs that have a taproot as well as massive secondary and third root systems.

 

[iHearAll]

I can see why people think fibrous.

The botany journal I posted called it a lateral taproot. It is a tap root that builds many lateral roots for water absorption. Lateral or secondary roots then make many more finer roots.

In indoor growing those roots circle the pot and the tap is hidden. Next time you pull a stock up, don't pull the whole root ball. The main root will come up.

People think taproot and think carrot. That is correct. It is a type of taproot, a tuber.

An image search for "taproot" shows carrots and dandelions but also shows others like trees and shrubs that have a taproot as well as massive secondary and third root systems.

ok i can see how that works. yea i usually grow cannabis in raised beds and it has a pretty obvious tap root but since im unaware of the technicalities of tap vers fibrous i leaned toward fibrous from having all that extra hairyness.

 

[whitebb2727]

there's more large side roots for it to be considers fibrous i think.

Also on a fibrous system the roots com from the plant, like on a clone. On taproot systems you have a main root that all other branching comes from.


All dicotyledonous plants have tap roots. It is a dicot, having two cotyledons. Those first little round leaves when the seed shell comes off.

 

[iHearAll]

Also on a fibrous system the roots com from the plant, like on a clone. On taproot systems you have a main root that all other branching comes from.


All dicotyledonous plants have tap roots. It is a dicot, having two cotyledons. Those first little round leaves when the seed shell comes off.

woah so you're saying when i grow from cutting i get a completely different root system style?

 

[whitebb2727]

ok i can see how that works. yea i usually grow cannabis in raised beds and it has a pretty obvious tap root but since im unaware of the technicalities of tap vers fibrous i leaned toward fibrous from having all that extra hairyness.

That plays a role to. The type of medium. The size and shape probably play a role in how the roots form. Watering habits will affect them to.

 

[iHearAll]

That plays a role to. The type of medium. The size and shape probably play a role in how the roots form. Watering habits will affect them to.

yea like a carrot with too much Nitrogen produces multiple taps