edux10
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I think we may just have to do the same WC-C WC-F WC-H.
Lights go on soon. I will show you what the different ones look like on day one of flower.
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Lights go on soon. I will show you what the different ones look like on day one of flower.
edux10
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Ok then this one is half way through bloom/flower
Fungus-dominant
(halfway through flowering)
1/2 cup earthworm castings. See above
1/2 cup mushroom compost: This is fungus waiting to happen. A righ source of fungal spores and dense organic matter that fungi like to eat.
2 tablespooms Powdered, 100% natural rooled oats: Fungi love this nutrient and will deliver to the plnt roots.
2 teaspoons kepl meal: I use kelp meal for several reasons. Its organic matter the fungi like to attach themselves to. Fungi love kelp extracts as a primart food source and the rich trace elements and potassium it intorduces.
1/4 teaspoon Micronized (soft) rock phosphate: Fungus attach to the rock phosphate and grow on it. Also a prime source of phosphorous, magneasium an sulfer.
Fungus-dominant
(halfway through flowering)
1/2 cup earthworm castings. See above
1/2 cup mushroom compost: This is fungus waiting to happen. A righ source of fungal spores and dense organic matter that fungi like to eat.
2 tablespooms Powdered, 100% natural rooled oats: Fungi love this nutrient and will deliver to the plnt roots.
2 teaspoons kepl meal: I use kelp meal for several reasons. Its organic matter the fungi like to attach themselves to. Fungi love kelp extracts as a primart food source and the rich trace elements and potassium it intorduces.
1/4 teaspoon Micronized (soft) rock phosphate: Fungus attach to the rock phosphate and grow on it. Also a prime source of phosphorous, magneasium an sulfer.
edux10
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The earthworm castings, mushroom compost, oatmeal and kelp meal are first mixed together and made very wet. After fungus has grown on this blend, place it in the tea bubbler for 24 hrs with some additional liquid or water soluble kelp seaweed extrat and micronized soft rock phosphate
Basically just let this brew with an airstone for 2 days and the fungus one let brew for a week. It will get all bubbly
Basically just let this brew with an airstone for 2 days and the fungus one let brew for a week. It will get all bubbly
theloadeddragon
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I want to make my own teas when I do my Monsters next year...... its not practical for me right at the moment though... I bet they will love it....
and, damn, I was hoping you were going to name plant after me (not the buds) ....
.... oh well, I can keep dreaming...
and, damn, I was hoping you were going to name plant after me (not the buds) ....
.... oh well, I can keep dreaming...
theloadeddragon
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I didn't say I thought you were naming the buds, and I know exactly what you meant.... H, K, and other letters like that get confusing and are a bit too vague to really associate with particular plants and their phenotypes. If you don't want to use a name... then use a series of numbers and letters that have a sound that will stick... know what I mean? Pics are looking good though...
greenthumb111
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I would do what Earl did which is what I suggested except I did misunderstand about the buds, sorry. Name them WC A, B, C for example. Write down in your journal that your keeping with the traits you like from this and other strains, the nutes you used and the schedule of feeding and watering so you can repeat success' and dont repeat failures. Then when you do your smoke tests, you can add the outstanding trait name, taste, high, etc. if ya want to each different pheno. For example WC - A, turns purple and tatses lemony. So you decide to name that A pheno WC Purple lemon. Thats what I would be looking for if I bought a Pheno of a clone that I knew the main strain. I know its a widow cindy (good already) its purple and lemony. You could even call tall bushy ones WC Big Fat Momma. What ever you decide the separating characteristics are for each pheno would help someone who is growing it. We need those characteristics to help you name them.
greenthumb111
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I too have been studying the organic vs chemical nutes and teas. If you look at the combined N-P-K for the veg and flower this is what you get:
Veg (11-6-11) Not considering worm castings a N source (but it is)
Flower (6-9-10)
THen you make the tea as you said with bubbled Oxygen for a couple of days
The best way to tell what affect different nutes have on the plants is to do different nutes on a clone batch. Same plants (clones) same lighting, similar feeding schedule, and dosages of the nutes as directed.
Nutes are really just N-P-K. All the other additives may or may not improve growth/flowering. Yield is mostly based on environmental factors (light strength, CO2 conc and availability and strain). Taste can also be affected by the ferts/additives you use.
Anywho, its a big subject on the ratios of N-P-K, additives, and the frequency water/ferts are applied. Sorry I dont just have one answer. Im still thinking myself about what I want to use next.
Im going to try Subcools Super soil mix for my soil grow and mayby the outdoor grow which has most or more of what you had for veg and bloom ingredients. Check it out see what you think.
Veg (11-6-11) Not considering worm castings a N source (but it is)
Flower (6-9-10)
THen you make the tea as you said with bubbled Oxygen for a couple of days
The best way to tell what affect different nutes have on the plants is to do different nutes on a clone batch. Same plants (clones) same lighting, similar feeding schedule, and dosages of the nutes as directed.
Nutes are really just N-P-K. All the other additives may or may not improve growth/flowering. Yield is mostly based on environmental factors (light strength, CO2 conc and availability and strain). Taste can also be affected by the ferts/additives you use.
Anywho, its a big subject on the ratios of N-P-K, additives, and the frequency water/ferts are applied. Sorry I dont just have one answer. Im still thinking myself about what I want to use next.
Im going to try Subcools Super soil mix for my soil grow and mayby the outdoor grow which has most or more of what you had for veg and bloom ingredients. Check it out see what you think.
theloadeddragon
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My head has been spinning around nutes, organics vs chemicals, teas, molasses, other additives, PH adjustments for the veg and flower cycles, hormonal changes throughout the entire growth cycle, rooting stuctures and sizes and growth patterns and absortion rates and ratios (especially compared to PH adjustments and nutes and additives!), lighting (almost took the HPS outside today because of cloud cover), CO2 and other gases/chemicals that may be present in the air, bugs, soils, drainage, etc. etc. etc. and they all play diverse and crucial roles in the overall grow, some more than others depending on the strain and whether its indoor or outdoor.... oh yeah, and this from that has been chillin in the veg room for about a week now...
edux10
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Do you have subcools recipe anywhere?
I have been thinking a lot too. This grow was kind of just using what I had. I got what the people at the hydro store told me to get, which may have not been the best thing for my situation.
Next grow I will be working on a better feeding schedule and also carbon dioxide. I expect to see a big increase in production from this grow to the next.
I have been thinking a lot too. This grow was kind of just using what I had. I got what the people at the hydro store told me to get, which may have not been the best thing for my situation.
Next grow I will be working on a better feeding schedule and also carbon dioxide. I expect to see a big increase in production from this grow to the next.
greenthumb111
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Sure. Here is the thread on RIU (https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/44686-subcools-super-soil-8.html). I have compiled alot od different soil mixes and you are welcome to those if you PM me your email address. I plan on listing all the ingredients and seeing what people use and their ratios. Im also looking at the commercial ones to see what they have too. I will be way cheaper to make them yourself too. You can also reuse the soil after you are done but it is suggested to compost the reused soil to kill off the bad buggies. I will keep you posted on my progress.
Like I said I will be using Subs mix next soil grow to see how it does. THe guy has formulated this mix over 20+ years of growing so I just gotta try it. Some of the others I have are equally tried and true according to the authors.
Like I said I will be using Subs mix next soil grow to see how it does. THe guy has formulated this mix over 20+ years of growing so I just gotta try it. Some of the others I have are equally tried and true according to the authors.
edux10
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When they were babies they were vegged under a bank of 8 t5 floros, these veg really slow. I did a 2 month total veg. I think if I used a MH i may have been able to do it in maybe a month and a half.
The lights they are under now are HPS 600watt. They actually vegged for a week maybe under this light when I was getting the tent ready.
The lights they are under now are HPS 600watt. They actually vegged for a week maybe under this light when I was getting the tent ready.
DR. VonDankenstine
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Just stoping by---whats shakin bacon-looking real good brother---keep up the good work.
edux10
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What up Dr. Haven't seen you in a minute. Good to know you are well. Everything is going good. Did you see my veg closet. Got a lot of good stuff in there. I got some Godzillas. One Godzilla is a MUNTANT. One is growing very well the others may have got stunned for a second due to lack of water. That reminds me.
Man I need RO. This 5 gallon jug thing isn't cutting it. On top of that I had to park a block away last night and carry the jug in. I didn't have a belt on either so my shorts almost fell off in front of my neighbor. That should be the selling point right there 'Get a RO machine so your pants don't fall off and the neighbors see your underwear."
The Big flowering plants have been getting watered pretty well. They are all sucking it down, except maybe the lanky one that is messed up. The little ones need to be transplanted bad. They drink all their water everyday and the soil gets DRY!
Man I need RO. This 5 gallon jug thing isn't cutting it. On top of that I had to park a block away last night and carry the jug in. I didn't have a belt on either so my shorts almost fell off in front of my neighbor. That should be the selling point right there 'Get a RO machine so your pants don't fall off and the neighbors see your underwear."
The Big flowering plants have been getting watered pretty well. They are all sucking it down, except maybe the lanky one that is messed up. The little ones need to be transplanted bad. They drink all their water everyday and the soil gets DRY!
theloadeddragon
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Kind of reminds me of my little clone set up... 