Should tipping be abolished?

Should tipping be abolished?

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 43.5%
  • No

    Votes: 13 56.5%

  • Total voters
    23

Illinois Enema Bandit

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Why should customers be expected to make up the difference in a living wage via tips instead of the employer?
I don't like the reasoning behind that little sign demanding tips & it would cause me to break a golden rule of mine,which is to tip 20% to 25% depending on the variables,a kid handing me a $3 coffee gets a buck period,but a man or woman "serving " me & humbeling themselves to be polite,even when they've had a rotten day,now they deserve a good tip no matter what their hourly pay is .

Federal gov taxing tips was a shithead move thought up by shithead people,anybody willing to humble themselves 8 yrs a day deserves over & above & I'm willing to pay for it,but the note deal is a bit much .
 

Rob Roy

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how would you know if a restaurant even met basic minimum standards if not for the existence of those standards and the regular enforcement of them through inspections?

would you ask to go back in their freezer/fridge and make sure all veggies are being stored at 37 degrees fahrenheit?

That's easy. A respected private entity or entities could offer certifications if certain standards were met.

You really don't know jack shit about how a truly free market incentivizes good behaviors and penalizes poor behavior do you? I guess you're hopelessly lost without Nanny to wipe your ass for you.
 

Rob Roy

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how would they be funded? what would stop them from being bribed?
That's a good question and also verifies you don't understand how a free market operates.

They are not incentivized to give false recognition. Since other companies doing the same kind of things would be allowed to be in the same business, (in a free market) they recognize they would be cutting their own throat if they tarnished their own reputation due to the possibility of losing market share to a competitor who customers preferred.

Alternatively, a government holding a monopoly in a given area doesn't need or want customer feedback, since they hold a forcible monopoly.

Can you explain how government employees are immune to bribes ? No, you can't.

I win. Good night.
 

UncleBuck

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That's a good question and also verifies you don't understand how a free market operates.

They are not incentivized to give false recognition. Since other companies doing the same kind of things would be allowed to be in the same business, (in a free market) they recognize they would be cutting their own throat if they tarnished their own reputation due to the possibility of losing market share to a competitor who customers preferred.

Alternatively, a government holding a monopoly in a given area doesn't need or want customer feedback, since they hold a forcible monopoly.

Can you explain how government employees are immune to bribes ? No, you can't.

I win. Good night.
so there's no funding mechanism for this magical free market inspection team, and absolutely no consequence to face if they get bribed, since that would require yet another inspector inspection team to inspect the inspectors.

sounds like free market utopia.
 

Rob Roy

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how so?

you said it would be "reasonable and polite" to hang a sign barring black people from your store. i have the completely unedited quote.

that's called racial segregation.

I believe the context of the conversation was "if a person were a racist, what would be the most polite and reasonable way to notice somebody of that" ?

While I don't think shitting on a persons floor is polite and reasonable, it might be polite and reasonable for you to hang a sign saying, "hey I just shit on the floor in the bathroom, please use caution" .
 

Rob Roy

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so there's no funding mechanism for this magical free market inspection team, and absolutely no consequence to face if they get bribed, since that would require yet another inspector inspection team to inspect the inspectors.

sounds like free market utopia.


It's really painful to see you muddle your way thru false assumptions. Such ignorance, tsk tsk.

ASTM called and laughed at you. The feedback prompts on e-bay and Amazon are on hold, they want a turn to laugh at you too.

You have it ass backwards on incentives. A government which holds a forcible monopoly turns a deaf ear to customer feedback, because THEY HOLD A FORCIBLE MONOPOLY.

If you run a business, and competition is allowed, reputation means a great deal.

It would be in your interest not to certify a slob, as it would only lose your certification business future opportunity if you gave out false info. purposefully.

Now good night sir.
 

UncleBuck

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I believe the context of the conversation was "if a person were a racist, what would be the most polite and reasonable way to notice somebody of that" ?
no.

you have tried to accuse me of taking your racist, segregationist comments out of context before but only you do that.

i am happy to post the quote in which you advocate for racial segregation in its entirety.
 

UncleBuck

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It's really painful to see you muddle your way thru false assumptions. Such ignorance, tsk tsk.

ASTM called and laughed at you. The feedback prompts on e-bay and Amazon are on hold, they want a turn to laugh at you too.

You have it ass backwards on incentives. A government which holds a forcible monopoly turns a deaf ear to customer feedback, because THEY HOLD A FORCIBLE MONOPOLY.

If you run a business, and competition is allowed, reputation means a great deal.

It would be in your interest not to certify a slob, as it would only lose your certification business future opportunity if you gave out false info. purposefully.

Now good night sir.
so there's no funding mechanism for this magical free market inspection team, and absolutely no consequence to face if they get bribed, since that would require yet another inspector inspection team to inspect the inspectors.

sounds like free market utopia.

and goddamn retarded.
 

Lord Kanti

Well-Known Member
Employers should be forced to pay their employees a living wage. That's not just what I think is right, that's what's objectively right. If you disagree with that, I'd love to hear you your argument that reasons why you believe taxpayers should make up that difference through social safety net programs instead of employers
Not every job is for survival. Some people work for extra cash or because, get this: they actually enjoy doing it! It's crazy, right?

Seriously, I'm all for earning a living wage, but not every job can be expected to provide that. That's what careers and self-employment are for.
 

UncleBuck

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Not every job is for survival. Some people work for extra cash or because, get this: they actually enjoy doing it! It's crazy, right?

Seriously, I'm all for earning a living wage, but not every job can be expected to provide that. That's what careers and self-employment are for.
post more pictures of your pathetic plants.
 

Rob Roy

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so there's no funding mechanism for this magical free market inspection team, and absolutely no consequence to face if they get bribed, since that would require yet another inspector inspection team to inspect the inspectors.

sounds like free market utopia.

and goddamn retarded.

Again your ignorance of how feedback works as a component of keeping a free market properly incentivized is stunning.

Is loss of business based on fraud not a consequence...dolt ?

If you rate a motel a 5 star motel, but there's a turd in every shower, wouldn't you say the "inspection team" could also be the customers who found out your company was a fraud for giving out false info?


You never explained what incentivizes a government parasite bureaucrat not to accept a bribe ?
 

Rob Roy

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are we talking private business or business open to the public

In either instance the owner is a private entity so your question doesn't respond to mine.

I asked if you thought some people should be able to force others to serve them ?

Then I reminded you forced servitude is slavery. Do you support slavery? I certainly don't.

Do you support rape and forced human interactions. I certainly don't.
 
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