Hillary can't be trusted

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Flaming Pie

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let's hope you never lose them, even for a second.

if you are so neglectful that even you indoor, climate controlled buds get rotted out from mold, let's hope that the same doesn't happen to that birth certificate.

buy a fire proof safe while you're at it, if you can afford to do so on your hubby's $12 an hour wage.
I Have a safe. My air conditioner died this year. High heat and humidity equals mold. Husband doesnt work at 12$/hr job anymore.

You ever take a look at that link of ISIS rape, beheading, and mass slaughter? Think you may denounce them?

If you do not call ISIS deplorable right now, I will assume you are a terrorist.
 

UncleBuck

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You wont be "confronted" unless you have commited a crime, applied for a job illegally, or were discovered to be illegal through a report.
let's hope no racist moron ever reports you as possibly illegal.

it's not like nitro harley considers your hispanic child to be something he "doesn't see a solution anytime soon" for.

dumbass.
 

Flaming Pie

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Not at all. This is the crux of the issue. Trump -- and your stupid ass MIL -- are talking about unleashing ten thousand ICE officers onto the public with the orders to find and detain 11 million people. They are spread out across the country and Trump's campaign promise is to deport them all within two years. How are they going to do this without some sort of standard citizenship ID?
All these systems are in place already. We just need to have a force capable of executing the law.
 

Fogdog

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You wont be "confronted" unless you have commited a crime, applied for a job illegally, or were discovered to be illegal through a report.
This is not what Trump said he'd do. He said that all eleven million illegal immigrants will be deported within two years. How can they do that if the have to wait for eleven million peaceful people who have a lower crime rate than the general populace to commit a crime?

Also, if I do commit a crime and don't have proper ID does that mean I will be deported? This all sounds very intrusive to me.
 

londonfog

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I Have a safe. My air conditioner died this year. High heat and humidity equals mold. Husband doesnt work at 12$/hr job anymore.

You ever take a look at that link of ISIS rape, beheading, and mass slaughter? Think you may denounce them?

If you do not call ISIS deplorable right now, I will assume you are a terrorist.
speaking of rape. Why was you husband kicked out of the service ?
 

UncleBuck

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I Have a safe. My air conditioner died this year. High heat and humidity equals mold. Husband doesnt work at 12$/hr job anymore.

You ever take a look at that link of ISIS rape, beheading, and mass slaughter? Think you may denounce them?

If you do not call ISIS deplorable right now, I will assume you are a terrorist.
wow, what a thrill ride.

that went from an eloquent defense of moldy bud, to an impassioned plea of "did you even watch the video??????", to "U R A TERORISMMZZ!" all in three lines.

i am rapt.

but you still never told me if you are OK with deporting american citizens who are children.
 

Flaming Pie

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let's hope no racist moron ever reports you as possibly illegal.

it's not like nitro harley considers your hispanic child to be something he "doesn't see a solution anytime soon" for.

dumbass.
A simple database check will show we are citizens. We are in so many. Mortgage, bank, drivers license, Voter registration, etc
This is not what Trump said he'd do. He said that all eleven million illegal immigrants will be deported within two years. How can they do that if the have to wait for eleven million peaceful people who have a lower crime rate than the general populace to commit a crime?

Also, if I do commit a crime and don't have proper ID does that mean I will be deported? This all sounds very intrusive to me.
The crime rate for illegal immigrants is 100%
 

Flaming Pie

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wow, what a thrill ride.

that went from an eloquent defense of moldy bud, to an impassioned plea of "did you even watch the video??????", to "U R A TERORISMMZZ!" all in three lines.

i am rapt.

but you still never told me if you are OK with deporting american citizens who are children.
So it was good for you too?
 

UncleBuck

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This is not what Trump said he'd do. He said that all eleven million illegal immigrants will be deported within two years. How can they do that if the have to wait for eleven million peaceful people who have a lower crime rate than the general populace to commit a crime?

Also, if I do commit a crime and don't have proper ID does that mean I will be deported? This all sounds very intrusive to me.
trump is already encouraging people to snitch on their own neighbors.

they will find pie's moldy little grow when they come to check the papers of her mother in law, father in law, husband, and child.

then they will really be up shit's creek with mommy in jail for growing and daddy having to get by on $12 an hour and trump's shitty childcare plan.
 

Fogdog

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All these systems are in place already. We just need to have a force capable of executing the law.
Explain to me what systems are in place?

What about people who already are having problems obtaining photo ID's so that they can vote. Some people have their names spelled wrong on their birth certificate. They can't get a valid ID to vote without spending $250 to change the record and that's just the beginning of the hassle for them. If they don't get that done in time do they get deported too? This all sounds very intrusive to me.
 

Fogdog

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trump is already encouraging people to snitch on their own neighbors.

they will find pie's moldy little grow when they come to check the papers of her mother in law, father in law, husband, and child.

then they will really be up shit's creek with mommy in jail for growing and daddy having to get by on $12 an hour and trump's shitty childcare plan.
This is all very intrusive. Maybe @Flaming Pie should vote for Clinton because she doesn't support intrusive programs like this one.
 

Big_Lou

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are you alright with your father inlaw being view as a terrorist
I asked her this when I joined months ago...very sad, truly. :(

When I think of my own in-laws (Lebanese, some of which follow variations of Muslim faiths) it makes me sick and frightened for them....we've legitimately got a Pol Pot/Hitler vying for control of the country!
Sadly, the notions of "SS papers", "medical records", etc. never seem to end up mattering much when stormtroopers/mercs smash your doors and windows in one evening while you and the fam are jacking off and watching Disney DVDs....
 

Fogdog

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I asked her this when I joined months ago...very sad, truly. :(

When I think of my own in-laws (Lebanese, some of which follow variations of Muslim faiths) it makes me sick and frightened for them....we've legitimately got a Pol Pot/Hitler vying for control of the country!
Sadly, the notions of "SS papers", "medical records", etc. never seem to end up mattering much when stormtroopers/mercs smash your doors and windows in one evening while you and the fam are jacking off and watching Disney DVDs....
Exactly what I've been driving at, though more indirectly. They are going to train and unleash 10,000 more federal officers onto the public with the mission of finding, detaining, processing through the justice system and deporting 11 million people within two years. I want to know what their next mission will be. But before then, I'm asking what do @bravedave and @Flaming Pie think that operation will look like? It sounds like a major police action that will have to be carried out intrusively on the public at large.

As @UncleBuck suggests, Trump expects neighbors to snitch on each other and says people who don't are subject to harsh penalties.

The mission looks very much like the DEA's war on drugs. Only they will be raiding families and taking away their mother or father or sons or maybe the whole family. How does anybody prevent those officers from hauling them away upon suspicion of being here illegally? Who will look after their property when they are in prison? Nobody is my guess. What a heartless fucking piece of shit this proposal is.

This all sounds very much like Nazi Germany and rule under Hitler.
 

SneekyNinja

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Exactly what I've been driving at, though more indirectly. They are going to train and unleash 10,000 more federal officers onto the public with the mission of finding, detaining, processing through the justice system and deporting 11 million people within two years. I want to know what their next mission will be. But before then, I'm asking what do @bravedave and @Flaming Pie think that operation will look like? It sounds like a major police action that will have to be carried out intrusively on the public at large.

As @UncleBuck suggests, Trump expects neighbors to snitch on each other and says people who don't are subject to harsh penalties.

The mission looks very much like the DEA's war on drugs. Only they will be raiding families and taking away their mother or father or sons or maybe the whole family. How does anybody prevent those officers from hauling them away upon suspicion of being here illegally? Who will look after their property when they are in prison? Nobody is my guess. What a heartless fucking piece of shit this proposal is.

This all sounds very much like Nazi Germany and rule under Hitler.
They will be reeducated, relocated and their property will be sold to fund our Glorious Reic...country!

Maybe "they" can be "concentrated" into some kind of "camps"?
 

Fogdog

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A simple database check will show we are citizens. We are in so many. Mortgage, bank, drivers license, Voter registration, etc

The crime rate for illegal immigrants is 100%
You don't know anything. Illegal immigrants have managed to obtain mortgages, driver's licenses, even fake birth certificates. How does this new operation ferret them out within the two year time limit that Trump promised without some new ID program?

You are right, illegally entering the country or remaining in this country is a crime. Where we differ is what to do about the people who are peacefully living here and contributing to the welfare of our society. Removing those people from their places in the US will cause a net loss to this country. I don't understand why, when we have so much else that needs resources, we should do harm to the economy and the community by taking these actions?

Personally, I think this is a sham and the real intent is to create a police state under the thumb of an authoritarian right wing government. But I admit this is my opinion and so I'm arguing about the facts behind this operation. It sounds very intrusive to me.
 

Fogdog

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And then there is this quote from Chris Christie, one of Benedict Donald's surrogates and director of in charge of planning for Trump's transition into the President's office.

If he wins the presidency, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump would seek to purge the federal government of officials appointed by Democratic President Barack Obama and could ask Congress to pass legislation making it easier to fire public workers, Trump ally, Chris Christie, said on Tuesday.

The Law for the Restoration of the Professional Civil Service became law within months after Hitler came into office as Chancellor. It removed Jews and anybody who was not seen as loyal to Hitler from positions in the German government. It gave Hitler complete control of the government.

So, Trump's advisor and director of the transition team says Trump will direct his teame to clean out disloyal government workers. A very similar action taken by Hitler. Trump is working from Hitler's own play book. Of course, federal workers have protections under the law and so we can expect Trump to begin to dismantle worker's rights in this country as a part of his actions to cleanse the government of workers who may be disloyal to him.
 
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