T.C. Bosby
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New to hydro. Any recommendations on a nutrient line? Looking for most likely synthetic. Can't be too thick because the tubes are only 1/4 inch on this system. Was looking at Canna Coco. Thanks!
Nutrient Lines
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Airwalker16
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ThaMagnificent
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I'm running Veg+Bloom at the moment
Blue planet nutes.......period dot dot dot... End of discussion... 2 part or 3 part....If u had any thoughts of going with GH 3 part, BPN... cheaper, I cant say it works better but honestly every pepsi/coke challenge that I see get done with BPN's 3 part, no bloom boosters and GH's same deal, the BPN has bested gh in 99% of the head to heads I seen... I seen a 112/114 2L soda bottle "zero veg" hempy grow go from 14-15 G's per 2l to 19+G's... google it its on another forum 420someshit.com but dude did the GH and/or whatever other 3 piece with no extra bisquits (meaning no bloom enhancers in any way, all done under the same conditions)....and do it mulitiple times with all of them the proof is pretty much right there and i'm sure theres more than that, that one was enough for me, no advertising in anyway, word of mouth only... price kicked down to custy... awesome crew..... I am a total organic soil man and hate myself for crossing over into the world of hydro but I give no other nod to any other nutrient co period.... I use GO for my mothers just cuz I dont have time or a place to mix a nicee batch of mother soil, I just feed via the bottle for now, however bpn does have a organic line though, I just been using GO when I need a lil something extra but I dont recyle my soil that I use it on.
For the cost to end product ratio, quality and price AND being simple... BPN.... I would however use the gh if I had to i dont wanna say a jam but it does its job too, its another easy one and if I ran out of bpn id use it in a heartbeat if needed it.... I can go to any dro store and get it but planning is everything with dro and its killing me...literally.. Nothing even major but I'm definitely not diggin it.... I'm doing it like I should but I'd be rather growing water only dirt any day or the year.... But its all a learning experience, soil is easy once you get it and have all the things... hydro is a million different electrical items and calculations... not a stoners strong suits but My goal is to be well rounded so gotta try and learn every facet of it if your gonna do it and lucky enough to be able to switch up..
For the cost to end product ratio, quality and price AND being simple... BPN.... I would however use the gh if I had to i dont wanna say a jam but it does its job too, its another easy one and if I ran out of bpn id use it in a heartbeat if needed it.... I can go to any dro store and get it but planning is everything with dro and its killing me...literally.. Nothing even major but I'm definitely not diggin it.... I'm doing it like I should but I'd be rather growing water only dirt any day or the year.... But its all a learning experience, soil is easy once you get it and have all the things... hydro is a million different electrical items and calculations... not a stoners strong suits but My goal is to be well rounded so gotta try and learn every facet of it if your gonna do it and lucky enough to be able to switch up..
PerroVerde
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Same here...
Afgan King
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Canna kills in tupur which is coco mix which I would suggest over straight coco all day 45 of 63 love my canna even tho I will be switching to dry nutes but canna a&b, rhizotonic, cannazyme, pk13/14, general organics. Stupid easy, no 10 part bs 3 part for veg 5 part for flower
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T.C. Bosby
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Are there any organic hydro nutrients that aren't overly thick or viscous?
T.C. Bosby
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If I went with Blue Planet organic nutrients, do you foresee any issues with it going through 1/4 inch tubing? Is their formula thick? Thanks for directing me towards Blue Planet!
churchhaze
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Yeah, nitrate salts.
Just like every other synthetic nutrient on the market without pretty labeling or advertising... Literally... And don't get me wrong I'm not a fan of anything that's not water only organic soil but we all gotta do what we gotta... But for $68 plus shipping (shipping is $$$, I will concede that but it's still less than $100 for the base 3 part) you get 3 gallons of quality nutes... I don't know of many other product lines out there that you can get for that price and actually not need anything else from beginning to end, no flushes, no sweeteners, no bullshit...
They do have all sorts of bloom boosters and other products etc if you wanna buy more shit but you can most certainly get growing and growing good beyond your abilities with just the 2 or 3 part.. The other stuff really isn't needed, follow the schedule, keep your shit clean n your good....
But I'm all about using what you think works too so don't think I'm knocking anything you wanna recommend... Bpn gets by well on word of mouth advertising alone so they gotta be doing something right... I emailed them a question late night a few days ago and within 8-10 hours I had a response with solid info and a coupon code... Email gh and let me know the response time.. And I use GO so it's not like I don't buy they're products, I just think bpn is better, actually I've seen it proven by growers who I've followed and were using other products long before bpn was ever heard of.
To the og poster...
It's not thick at all, it's basically the consistency of water for the most part... As long as your running either of blue planets "non-organic" (they have 1 "organic" set of products and it states it on the label) lines you'll be fine with 1/4" tubing or any tubing in any system essentially....as long as you keep your res in check, I.E. clean, proper temps etc.. If you run your setup dirty or without maintaining your setup...you're gonna have issues no matter what you use... The 3 part (grow-micro-bloom) is bpns flora line or gh type product, everything your plants need in 3 bottles mixed in different amounts throughout your plants life cycle.... The 2 part is the same just simpler I guess but Ive never used it so I can't speak for it but they're both synthetic products (2 and 3 part)...
I don't think I need to use h202 to maintain a sterile res but it does help with oxygen levels aside from sterilization, but I do....and it would be one other product id suggest (not a blue planet product)... Or something like it anyhow... People use shit from h202 to pool shock for res sterilization so do your own research there, h202 isn't cheap and requires a lot of usage... 1.7ml per gal every 3-5 days depending on res size bigger volume/vs amount needed = longer times between complete res changes... but it does have the added benefit of more dissolved oxygen at higher res temps (within reason) should they happen...
Most of all I suggest doing your own research on everything including what I'm telling you and most certainly don't follow the herd or the first thing you read that u like, make sure more than one person is getting success via the routes u choose, the interweb is full of experts that will lie n bullshit you to death to make themselves feel good... f this is your first go round I do suggest finding a grow similar to what u wanna do that you've seen work and copy it to the letter.. Nutrients are nutrients, either they're organic or not... There are some other things to consider (like specific formulations for coco or things of that nature) but for the most part it's either organic or not... But medium, feeding times/amount of feelings per day, res changes, res sizes, flushing... Follow someone else's grow and don't go with the "more is better"/the more u tinker the better thought processes, less is more, check but don't start adding PH down every time you notice your ph goes up 0.1... Don't react when a curve ball comes down the line, freak out but don't start pouring, flushing, adding ph up and/or down in mass amounts... Back up and figure out what's going on and react appropriately... Not instantly... If your "checking" and tracking like u should be daily, the likelyhood of being surprised by something major isn't as likely...
Good luck...
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Afgan King
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If your going bottled canna-bio is beast and organic but it'd be cheaper to do your own teas and such
churchhaze
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Organic nitrogen (urea) is certainly different than inorganic nitrogen (nitrate). One is good for hydro (nitrate) while the other is not (urea).
Just to throw in some controversy, synthetic urea is organic.
I'm in no way qualified to disagree with u on the technicalities of the term organic and in no way feel like arguing about a recommendation on a product that works as advertised, I do agree my nutes are nutes statement was a bit broad but I really don't see where your going other than an argument......your in no way helping the guy out... Just making him second guess anything anyone recommends and confusing him isn't gonna get him going... But to piss gas on the fire a little.. your telling me gh 3 part is a better product? As that was the comparison I was making or any other 3 part for that matter... I agree with the canna being the best product for coco, all day.... but the cost is way up there and would need a second mortgage to get the whole product line....
Personally I wouldn't be running any kind of organic anything in hydro unless i was running a uc type system or dwc... Anything "organic" in 1/4" lines WILL be a problem, I missed the organic part... Organic meaning bottles of shit labeled organic or teas or whatever organic method u choose....meaning non synthetic etc....
Personally I wouldn't be running any kind of organic anything in hydro unless i was running a uc type system or dwc... Anything "organic" in 1/4" lines WILL be a problem, I missed the organic part... Organic meaning bottles of shit labeled organic or teas or whatever organic method u choose....meaning non synthetic etc....
HarvesterPdx
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I'm a big fan of Cyco nutes, I've used it indoor and one summer I used it on my outdoor... I love the results...it's a bit spends but I think it's worth it. Here's some plants I've used Cyco on..
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Enots
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Very nice looking plants. Did you use the cyco coco also ? I ended up using LC1 and coco loco.
HarvesterPdx
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I've never tried it. And thank you
Wish I could get vegbloom where I am, they aren't licenced in the EU yet and their site is the only place you can mail order from. Everyone seems to get great results from them.