GrowerGoneWild
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Use with your existing base nutrients, then add Terpinator.
Terpinator
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rob333
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aint it like medi one juicy an atmoic i just use ozzy tonic best i have used in years for 16 bucks for 1 ltr it is by far best value for money
VenomGrower6990
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In conjuction with your feeding schedule.
GrowerGoneWild
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I have no idea what that product is. Enlighten us.
rob333
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VenomGrower6990
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I have used it on a couple of grows (This current Grow) and i am not sure if it made difference or not.
GrowerGoneWild
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Neither product is similar to terpinator, not even sure why you posted it in the thread.
Resinhound
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Terpinator is basically a rip off. $60 for a quart of diluted potassium sulfate and brown sugar.
You can buy enough ingredients off amazon to make 500gallons of terpinator for about $7
That being said it works because potassium sulfate is a very good nutrient to supplement with in flower. The packaged product is just ridiculously expensive for what it is.
You can buy enough ingredients off amazon to make 500gallons of terpinator for about $7
That being said it works because potassium sulfate is a very good nutrient to supplement with in flower. The packaged product is just ridiculously expensive for what it is.
GrowerGoneWild
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I somewhat agree and disagree with this statement..
MSDS does list potassium sulfate, but I could never figure out the rest of the ingredients, I tasted terpinator, and it was not sweet.. I dont think any kind of sucrose/fructose/molasses or sugar is in the mix. You need back up this statement saying you tested terpinator with benedicts solution, or some other sugar test.
But going off the G.A on the label you could mix the same nutrient profile with technical grade chemicals.
I generally thought it worked, and it was somewhat strain dependent, and if your base nutrient has enough sulfur, you generally do not need anymore sulfur.
But its _expensive_ I could not justify the cost when running close to 100 gallons of hydroponic solution.
GrowerGoneWild
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Thats not proof that the other component is sugar or whatever carbohydrate it is.. if it is carbohydrate.. Thats just somebodys formula. Does not mean that they have correctly replicated the formula, could be other things in there.
If you pour terpinator into a glass, and look at it, that tiny ammount of brown sugar as specified in the formula does not look the same as terpinator.
I have run just RAW potassium sulfate... Works good, if somebody wanted to just bump sulfur up in the mix.
since1991
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i havent used Terp.in awhile. For what it does...on certain strains. ...its just not worth the cost and dilution. When i used to run my sour og cut i was putting in 25 - 30 ml per gallon at peak . Fuck that. Its ok but not that ok. K sulfate is a fine flowering additive...so much so that whatever else is in Terp.
..they can keep it. It does what its supposed to do....on some strains. ...iam over it though.
..they can keep it. It does what its supposed to do....on some strains. ...iam over it though.
Resinhound
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Correctly replicated the formula? The concentration of ks04 is known. That's the ACTIVE ingredient. The super secret dyes and fragrances are inconsequential. But hey if you want to pay $60 a quart for ks04 you can buy by the pound on Amazon for a few dollars, be my guest, I don't really care either way. I've used terpinator and I've used Kso4 in its raw form, both performed as I'd expect a potassium supplement to perform.
since1991
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And whoever said it changes the terp profile to more lemony is spot on. The citrusy strains WAY more citrusy and ones that have that danky KUSH flavor...slight hint of something thats not supposed to be there. Not all tue time but if you dry and cure right....yoh can taste it. All them sugar addys do it. Sweet (even sweet raw)...rock resinator...Terpinator....Sugar Daddy...the Cutting Edge versions....They all are sugar/carb based. Make your plant frosty (some gear) ajd give this lemony citrusy background to al9t of stuff. You all that have used the products know what iam talking about.
since1991
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Then i wouldnt use it again for what it costs. If your not sure....dont use ANY product on them shelves again is my philosophy. Ive used damn near everything on them shelves over the years too. I would buy a jug...use it on some section of the crop or a few crops over time....amd scratch my head thinking does ot work or not. With that inconclusive result...i move on.
GrowerGoneWild
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I already said that KS04 is already ID'ed in the MSDS and the G.A. But to be fair, its unknown if there is something missing, could be maple syrup for all I know. Saying its "brown sugar" + KS04 isn't accurate. I need proof. Advanced nutrients does the same thing by claiming proprietary ingredients, so we never know whats in the mix.. could be simple, or not.. So its hard to tell for sure.
Already said I dont care to use Terpinator, its _expensive_ the cost got to me after running close to 50-100 gallons at a time, where I had to dump every 2 weeks... Now I have to redose at 20-30 ml a gallon.. fuck me.. It works but its not cost effective... thats why I went to raw and used that over terp.. eventually I just moved away from using any additives together, and just looked at the G.A of the base nutrient looking at sulfur content.
Resinhound
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If you don't care to use it then why the hell do you "need proof"..
You already suspect it's an overpriced, overhyped supplement. You know what the active ingredient is. Well guess what? Short of the manufacturer actually telling you what Bullshit they put in there besides what they have to list is slim to fucking none. Period.
Good luck.
GrowerGoneWild
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Because I suspect something else like jasmonates could be in the mix, I dunno the price to deformulate is around 15K USD. My experience with KSO4 vs terpinator wasn't exactly the same. And rhizoflora got really defensive when I asked about what was in it, just wanted to make sure that flowers grow with it wont fail a test for residuals like PGR's or whatever they put in it in addition to KSO4.
The thread is to discuss terpinator.. why are you here if you got it all figgured out?