Evil's Adventures
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WindyCityKush
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Yeah my eyebrows perked up at the sound of that as well.
HydroRed
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Well if Evil dont mind, I'll throw down what info I have gathered so far with my limited run with the cobs.
I grew 5 plants(not gg) with the 400W of cobs prior to this grow. The plants are in my journal in my sig if you want to check it out. It was really a pheno hunt for a new momma so it wasnt about weight. I went from 5 mature plants to 3 girls. The cobs worked very well for that grow. I really haven't been able to push the light to see its full potential but plan to with this grow. I remember that the GG#4 was a stretchy leggy girl when you first flip to flower and stays like that for about the first 12-15 days or so. For this perpetual, taller is better than bushier so I think the GG#4 should work. The table is approx 44"x38" (4x3ish) but once full grown, the light should be covering a solid 4x4 area.
This pic is from transplant day to yesterday evening (9 days total).
I let them "harden off" for 2 days under 24 hrs of cob lighting then flipped to flower. Like I said, literally almost no veg time.
They have stretched 2x their original height in one week so far....
The lights definitely work, but I'm gonna put it to its paces this time around.
3 more weeks and I'll be filling the other tray with 5 more clones of the glue.
The cob led lights yielded me almost 7 zips from 3 plants that were all under 22" tall in the previous grow.
Heres 5 colas of 7 total from 1 plant.
Going from HPS to cobs, I thought penetration of the canopy would be an issue, but it wasnt at all.
Maybe an oz or so of bottom bush larf buds between all three plants.
I have high hopes for this grow of the glue.
I grew 5 plants(not gg) with the 400W of cobs prior to this grow. The plants are in my journal in my sig if you want to check it out. It was really a pheno hunt for a new momma so it wasnt about weight. I went from 5 mature plants to 3 girls. The cobs worked very well for that grow. I really haven't been able to push the light to see its full potential but plan to with this grow. I remember that the GG#4 was a stretchy leggy girl when you first flip to flower and stays like that for about the first 12-15 days or so. For this perpetual, taller is better than bushier so I think the GG#4 should work. The table is approx 44"x38" (4x3ish) but once full grown, the light should be covering a solid 4x4 area.
This pic is from transplant day to yesterday evening (9 days total).
I let them "harden off" for 2 days under 24 hrs of cob lighting then flipped to flower. Like I said, literally almost no veg time.
They have stretched 2x their original height in one week so far....
The lights definitely work, but I'm gonna put it to its paces this time around.
3 more weeks and I'll be filling the other tray with 5 more clones of the glue.
The cob led lights yielded me almost 7 zips from 3 plants that were all under 22" tall in the previous grow.
Heres 5 colas of 7 total from 1 plant.
Going from HPS to cobs, I thought penetration of the canopy would be an issue, but it wasnt at all.
Maybe an oz or so of bottom bush larf buds between all three plants.
I have high hopes for this grow of the glue.
Evil-Mobo
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Awesome info as I will be working mine into a perpetual as well but with a 4 week veg was the plan. I guess I might have to adjust for shorter......? BUT....... my new flower tent has a ceiling height of 7'11" and I can buy a 2 foot extension if I so desire......
That's why I topped these girls once then let them rip, I think now that the T5's back in the roots developed better because I am seeing such vigorous growth so quickly. The good thing is both of my phenos that are left have different size and structure so there will be some variety and I can choose which to keep around maybe both, maybe neither. But one of my phenos in particular I have my eye on from the beginning before I knew if they were boys or girls.
Thanks for sharing your info so far I need to go read about your build.
HydroRed
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Hardest part of perpetual is getting a schedule established. It kills me to see an empty tub under the light lol. For your setup, veg times are ideal. Certainly a 4 week veg if you have the time/space.
Im restricted on my head space as well, but since using the cobs, I do get about 6-8 inches of extra head space to work with. I'm envious of your available head space though. I have about 7' myself, but factor in the flood table height and light fixture/hangers etc-that leaves me about 3' of actual grow height til I'm touching lights.
So you plan to keep a momma of one of the phenos if they turn out killer? What kinda nose you getting from a stem rub right now on them?
Im restricted on my head space as well, but since using the cobs, I do get about 6-8 inches of extra head space to work with. I'm envious of your available head space though. I have about 7' myself, but factor in the flood table height and light fixture/hangers etc-that leaves me about 3' of actual grow height til I'm touching lights.
So you plan to keep a momma of one of the phenos if they turn out killer? What kinda nose you getting from a stem rub right now on them?
Evil-Mobo
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I'm not sure yet if I will keep a mom or just keep running clones. This is where people start talking genetic drift and stuff that's way beyond my education level or experience lol. To take advantage of this height I will be going RDWC vs using the flood and drain so we will see how it goes. The plan is a two tent rotation but one tent has two flower areas so it's like 3 spaces in all really. Brother @OneHitDone has been a HUGE help for me with a lot of this I didn't just come up with all this on my own as a newb lol. 4 weeks veg clone before flip move to flower area 1 and then when you flip/clone/move again you put plants into the other and it just keeps rolling after that, barring any grow issues of course etc etc.
The nose right now from the stem rub is an earthy piney smell with a hint of menthol/mint that's not too over powering. But it's funny even just when I hand water them the smell comes off the pot it's awesome. Of the two phenos left I won't keep running one of them unless the flowers are out of this world, because she's picky as hell with anything that affects her while the other pheno just trucks along as if nothing happened. But these are just my observations so far. In have the tough bitch and the sissy girl. You never know though once everything dries surprises can come about.
HydroRed
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On the whole genetic drift thing....I ran the same momma for about 3 years and only used clones from her. She was never flowered or revegged and the clones that came off her in year 3 were the same as the clones that came off of her in the first month. Thats all I'll say about that
Wow...menthol...thats a first I've heard on this. Man Evil -you got me intrigued.......
Sounds like OneHitDone is steering you in the right direction!
Wow...menthol...thats a first I've heard on this. Man Evil -you got me intrigued.......
Sounds like OneHitDone is steering you in the right direction!
Evil-Mobo
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On the whole genetic drift thing....I ran the same momma for about 3 years and only used clones from her. She was never flowered or revegged and the clones that came off her in year 3 were the same as the clones that came off of her in the first month. Thats all I'll say about that
Wow...menthol...thats a first I've heard on this. Man Evil -you got me intrigued.......
Sounds like OneHitDone is steering you in the right direction!
I will say this and it's not an ass kissing thing, but I am very fortunate to have someone with his knowledge and exp helping me. And it's very visible in my growing abilities as such a newb. You can see in my first grow thread how much better my three Barney's girls looked in veg before the flip compared to the first run.
Yeah in the end it's on the person with the hands on, but the amount I have learned in such a short time has been just plain awesome. Now I'm going to go ahead and embarrass myself in the next party cup comp so we will see how that goes. I guess you could say sexing these bitches out in cups was practice for that, so as long as I don't go on vacation I should have something make it to flower right lol........
As for the menthol as I said it's very faint but it's there at least to my nose. A lot can still change as we all know how something can do a complete turnaround just from curing lol......
Evil-Mobo
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Here's a shot of the girls today, the Auto is on the right the other two bigger girls are my GG, the little plants is a bag seed Blue Dream from a buddy, and a clone of a thrown out GG male that I just wanted to screw around to see if it would take root straight in the coco and so far it hasn't died. I did this in soil once and it worked so just some more testing.
Evil-Mobo
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On the left we have my GG# 8. She's the one that is picky. Even just a change of height of the light distance to canopy and she would be leaning and weak looking. I think some of this is because of the other light I was testing before for a bit which sucked lol. But we will see.
The plant in the middle is my GG#13 and my favorite from the beginning she has always been the strongest and most resilient to change and issues. I just also like her red stems and the leaf twists and her structure and height compared to the other plant. They were both topped at the same time and are both the same age so. I can't wait to run #13 in hydro from beginning to end and see what happens
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Stonironi
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The one with the leaf twist is a fucking gorilla glue bro . It looks just like it!! Screw what everyone was saying about elev8. I talked to them at the cannabis cup and he told me they definitely used a real gg#4 and back crossed it . I think you have a real good version of it to me . Also glue is very very temperamental . This is just my opinionOn the left we have my GG# 8. She's the one that is picky. Even just a change of height of the light distance to canopy and she would be leaning and weak looking. I think some of this is because of the other light I was testing before for a bit which sucked lol. But we will see.
The plant in the middle is my GG#13 and my favorite from the beginning she has always been the strongest and most resilient to change and issues. I just also like her red stems and the leaf twists and her structure and height compared to the other plant. They were both topped at the same time and are both the same age so. I can't wait to run #13 in hydro from beginning to end and see what happens
HydroRed
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On the left we have my GG# 8. She's the one that is picky. Even just a change of height of the light distance to canopy and she would be leaning and weak looking. I think some of this is because of the other light I was testing before for a bit which sucked lol. But we will see.
The plant in the middle is my GG#13 and my favorite from the beginning she has always been the strongest and most resilient to change and issues. I just also like her red stems and the leaf twists and her structure and height compared to the other plant. They were both topped at the same time and are both the same age so. I can't wait to run #13 in hydro from beginning to end and see what happens
#13 is looking to be the strongest contender in GG traits for sure. Does the stem rub have a greasy feel to it? Also, is it flexible? Mine is very flexible and perfect for LST or HST. Gets floppy when in flower and needs support.
Evil-Mobo
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Funny you mention this the stems feel wet lol and the plant is felxible as fuck I have never used a SCROG but #13 is like begging for it right now with how flexible she is and the new growth sights coming in let me take a pic for an example of what I'm talking about, but I was thinking maybe just tying down the branches some never done that either. I could top her again for 4 mains when I take clones and tie her ass down
HydroRed
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Im curious as to what other phenos you may have seen with more than 2 girls out of the bunch?
Did they mention what the Bx was?The one with the leaf twist is a fucking gorilla glue bro . It looks just like it!! Screw what everyone was saying about elev8. I talked to them at the cannabis cup and he told me they definitely used a real gg#4 and back crossed it . I think you have a real good version of it to me . Also glue is very very temperamental . This is just my opinion
Evil-Mobo
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The only info I have is what we all know from their website. They never replied to my email. If this #5 clone I am testing to root in straight coco roots I'll let it grow out some so you can see another pheno. But most of my phenos were like one of these two with one of the boys being like a mix of both and in between them in height.
Evil-Mobo
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That's why I hop the #5 roots
I might get lucky on someone helping me out with a cut................
