Flora Series Nutrients Question

[Resinhound]

Exactly, a matter of concentrations, which makes all the difference. Grow has more nitrogen than Bloom. In fact, you'd be best off to use all three components as GH charts suggest, because you can't make a good veg solution from either Grow or Bloom, and Micro. Any idiot should be able to see that, as somebody once said. You think having twice as much phosphorus and potassium as nitrogen promotes vegetative growth, huh? Where'd you ever read that? Look how low phosphorus is in that chart I posted. Doesn't look much like twice as much as the nitrogen to me. Looks more like less than a quarter in most of them.

Dude you can talk all the shit you want but like I said... Already proven time and time again.

Generally I'd agree with you, a low amount of phosphorus in relation to both nitrogen and potassium is the best.

I'm not talking about the ideal nutrient system here... But the fact is this SIMPLE formula works in veg and flower and it's cheap and easy for noobs to get a handle on.... Did I say it was the best?? No I didn't, is it easy and cheap and effective? Yes it is..

I don't see why you don't get this... You don't need all 3 bottles to grow healthy plants... Is it really that damn difficult for you to understand?

This has already been Proven to grow healthy plants all the way to harvest, the proof is literally every fucking where.. So you can post your charts and kick fucking rocks for all I care. The formula does work.

 

[BobCajun]

Dude you can talk all the shit you want but like I said... Already proven time and time again.

Generally I'd agree with you, a low amount of phosphorus in relation to both nitrogen and potassium is the best.

I'm not talking about the ideal nutrient system here... But the fact is this SIMPLE formula works in veg and flower and it's cheap and easy for noobs to get a handle on.... Did I say it was the best?? No I didn't, is it easy and cheap and effective? Yes it is..

I don't see why you don't get this... You don't need all 3 bottles to grow healthy plants... Is it really that damn difficult for you to understand?

What, is the 3 part chart too complicated for you? You can only mix nutes if there's no more than 2 parts? Just follow the damn directions, ain't that hard really. I mean I know stoners are usually not real bright but c'mon.

 

[Resinhound]

What, is the 3 part chart too complicated for you? You can only mix nutes if there's no more than 2 parts? Just follow the damn directions, ain't that hard really. I mean I know stoners are usually not real bright but c'mon.

I don't use gh nutrients so it's not hard for me, I'm just saying the formula work's.

I've have used it in the past and the vegetative growth was on par with most other vegetative nutrient programs.

If you want to buy 3 bottles for the same job you can do with 2 heh who cares, have fun.

Like I said veg really isn't a challenge.. Or is it Bob?

 

[BobCajun]

Anything will "work" as long as all elements are present at some random concentration. Doesn't mean it's advisable.

 

[Resinhound]

Anything will "work" as long as all elements are present at some random concentration. Doesn't mean it's advisable.

Advisable or not it works fine... Keep denying the proof that's everywhere. Literally tons of proof that it works. So you can just kick rocks dude, lol.

It's so tough to veg this weed dude, better have your game on... Lol.

 

[rkymtnman]

How many liters do you think are in a gallon? I said 2 ml Micro and 4 ml Bloom. You said 8 ml Micro and 16 Bloom.

thanks for clarifying!

 

[rkymtnman]

Now where do you think Lucas got his figures for what ratios are best?

if you read the link, from doing hundreds of grows of Cannabis.
unlike the 4 scientists who didn't grow Cannabis that you posted a chart of.

 

[rkymtnman]

Some other guy on here, whose name I'm not interested in, said that GH copied Lucas for their FloraNova series. Well, that's a little odd since Lucas only showed up on that forum in 2006

Lucas has been around for way longer than that. try the 1980s if not earlier. FloraNova wasn't even dreamed of back then.

 

[rkymtnman]

ou can say it's 100-100-200 all you want but it's really 100-200-180. Pretty damn easy to calculate.

exactly. use a nute calculator and 8/16 comes out to roughly 100/100/200/60. and 60 is for Mg which you dont' seem to use in any of your "science"

 

[rkymtnman]

You wouldn't use all 3 together.
In fact, you'd be best off to use all three components as GH charts suggest,

quotes from you : @bobcajun

 

[BobCajun]

You wouldn't use all 3 together.
In fact, you'd be best off to use all three components as GH charts suggest,

quotes from you : @bobcajun

Fine, I'm actually tired of this thread now. But saying that GH based their nute recipe on a guy on a weed forum seems highly doubtful to me. If they made the FloraNova based on Lucas then why do they even sell the Grow part of their Flora series? According to Lucas, it's completely useless. I'll leave you with that thought. I'm turning off watch for this thread now.

 

[Resinhound]

Fine, I'm actually tired of this thread now. But saying that GH based their nute recipe on a guy on a weed forum seems highly doubtful to me. If they made the FloraNova based on Lucas then why do they even sell the Grow part of their Flora series? According to Lucas, it's completely useless. I'll leave you with that thought. I'm turning off watch for this thread now.

Gee they aren't in the business of selling stuff..cant believe a nutrient company would want to sell stuff that wasn't a Necessity. What an alien concept.

 

[rkymtnman]

Fine, I'm actually tired of this thread now.

i still can't believe you can't figure this out.

just one last comment from me since i'm just a stoner: flora nova bloom is a copy of the Lucas formula. flora nova grow is probably a bit more suited to vegging. and as @Resinhound said: they are in the sales business. why not add a second formula to the lineup?

the history is that a few Cannabis growers came up with a target profile of 100/100/200/60 and THEN found that 8/16 of micro and bloom would get close to that profile. grow was not need to get to that profile. that's it.

not too hard to grow a weed, dude. lol.

 

[Bron-Y-Aur Stomp]

So anybody have any info on malic acid pros and cons to lowering my ph?

 

[Resinhound]

So anybody have any info on malic acid pros and cons to lowering my ph?

Never used it but I have to ask, what's wrong with phosphoric or sulphuric acid? Both have proven to be stable and effective. Some acids like citric acid etc, just don't have the stability over time. But I have to admit I don't have any experience with malic acid.

 

[weedemart]

flora series perform better if you use the 3 parts in the ratio gh recommand, lucas is just a kiss methods and its far from balanced nutrition.floranova wasnt designed on lucas, its the same exact profile as flora series except its one part nute mixed with humics.

@bron-y-aur-stomp ; theres no pros and ton of cons to use malic acid. phosphoric acid can be bought everywhere and its safe to use and thats what professional use, theres reason.

if you really want to save money on acids, buy a reverse osmosis system.

 

[Bron-Y-Aur Stomp]

Never used it but I have to ask, what's wrong with phosphoric or sulphuric acid? Both have proven to be stable and effective. Some acids like citric acid etc, just don't have the stability over time. But I have to admit I don't have any experience with malic acid.

Looking for cheap PH down well water starting out at about a PH of 8 so expensive to buy the Ph down stuff. Phosphoric acid whats the deal on that stuff? Cheap and has a buffer? where you buy it?

 

[Bron-Y-Aur Stomp]

flora series perform better if you use the 3 parts in the ratio gh recommand, lucas is just a kiss methods and its far from balanced nutrition.floranova wasnt designed on lucas, its the same exact profile as flora series except its one part nute mixed with humics.

@bron-y-aur-stomp ; theres no pros and ton of cons to use malic acid. phosphoric acid can be bought everywhere and its safe to use and thats what professional use, theres reason.

if you really want to save money on acids, buy a reverse osmosis system.

Reverse osmosis system sounds like an expensive original investment.

 

[Bron-Y-Aur Stomp]

Im going to collect rain water would have been for a while but its hasn't rained here in a month.

 

[weedemart]

nah I bought mine for 50$. depend on your needs. but yea its more expensive than a bottle of acids . you will save on the long run tho.

understand that , if you have high alkalinity, adding acid will just fix your issue for a certain time then you will have to add acid again, and again....

ph tend to climb in growth