first grow-bag seed 8 weeks into flower not looking ready?

ChemPro

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Not True.
"Not true"...well checkmate then, lol. Okay, go with that. But, from my experience, and readings, a disruption on the plants dark cycle will cause stress. It confuses the plant, and increase the chances of going hermie. And if the plant is wasting energy adapting to the confusion that will be energy not going to the trichome development.
 

bravedave

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"Not true"...well checkmate then, lol. Okay, go with that. But, from my experience, and readings, a disruption on the plants dark cycle will cause stress. It confuses the plant, and increase the chances of going hermie. And if the plant is wasting energy adapting to the confusion that will be energy not going to the trichome development.
Friend, nice try, but we both know I was responding to you saying

"Just some mild light exposure can revert them back a week."

Which is still "not true".
 

Douglas.Curtis

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are you every opening the tent during a dark cycle? Just some mild light exposure can revert them back a week.
15+ years of indoor hydro says... "Nope"

One or two checks at night, during flower, won't harm or slow cannabis maturation. Not controlling yourself and opening it up every few nights definitely will. A number of strains are sensitive to light, growing male pollen flowers before 'slowing maturation' times.

Douglas
 

ChemPro

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15+ years of indoor hydro says... "Nope"

One or two checks at night, during flower, won't harm or slow cannabis maturation. Not controlling yourself and opening it up every few nights definitely will. A number of strains are sensitive to light, growing male pollen flowers before 'slowing maturation' times.

Douglas
So, it seems then we arent aligned in what we considered mild exposure.
 

bravedave

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So, it seems then we arent aligned in what we considered mild exposure.
Well please explain your "mild" then and after that share with us the statistics you're referencing that allow you to gauge the increased flower time. I cannot remember the exact number, but the plant does not even react to "lights-on" for something > 5 minutes. So feel free to take a peek.
 

ChemPro

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Taking plants out of the tent to do some LST training. Time wise, depends on the strain, how long it's been in flower. I've grown white widows in 2 different 4x4 tents. One in the basement and one in the upstairs with much more light pollution. I LST both during veg and flower, as well as pruned. The one the basement showed amber at 8 weeks, the one upstairs took 9.5. taken from same mother. I've always had to add a week to my upstairs room.
 

bravedave

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Taking plants out of the tent to do some LST training. Time wise, depends on the strain, how long it's been in flower. I've grown white widows in 2 different 4x4 tents. One in the basement and one in the upstairs with much more light pollution. I LST both during veg and flower, as well as pruned. The one the basement showed amber at 8 weeks, the one upstairs took 9.5. taken from same mother. I've always had to add a week to my upstairs room.
It seems you have provided 2 inconclusive answers here. The art of the dodge.
 

Alienwidow

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By the same token, it has always been my understanding that the CA and K "and other things" in molasses is not in a form that the plant can make use of. Microbes in the dirt like the sugars et al though.
Well if you could post some info on this that would be great. All i can find on the topic says that Molasses has CA in it and i cant really see any reason that the plant wouldnt be able to consume it if your putting it into the root zone.
 

Alienwidow

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Think what you will, but it is my understanding that the K needed by the plant is not provided by the molasses in that way. I wish it was. And I don't think the Ca or Fe is either. Please check it out yourself before offering advice on it.
Why do you keep trying to tell people theyre wrong while saying i think? Do you know what youre talking about or is this all just a hunch or hear say? Just post some facts and move on, instead of starting more arguements based on what you heard from some guy in a bar.
 

bravedave

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Why do you keep trying to tell people theyre wrong while saying i think? Do you know what youre talking about or is this all just a hunch or hear say? Just post some facts and move on, instead of starting more arguements based on what you heard from some guy in a bar.
AW!!! Where you been, old bean?

Am I wrong here? No.

Why are you here? I would have thought you would have graduated from being Sunshine's cracklapper by now.
 

chimera012

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okay once you ladies have gotten over who has the biggest tits contest ...back to my plants.i believe i have nitrogen toxicity and thus causing slow bud growth?or is it something els. the leaves are making a claw,turning yellow and some spots dying brown and crispy

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ChemPro

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It seems you have provided 2 inconclusive answers here. The art of the dodge.
I made a comment and you replied “not true.” Okay, I’m not sure how to respond to that. If someone were to tell me “why” they think I am wrong I may be able to hone in on the missing variable that results in our disagreement. But alas your rebuttals seem to rely on the “nuh-uh” approach.

You asked me to elaborate and I did. Since I have started growing I have noticed a correlation in amber trichome develop vs. the amount of light pollution. I’ll explain again.

I pull my coco pots out of the tent to prune, pull, bend, and LST. I water during the lights on cycle and I wait until the coco pots have drained before pulling them out in order to spare my floor getting wet. This occurs during the lights off cycle. This occurs once during veg, and once again during week 3 of flower.

My basement tent can be thought of as my control. Very little light pollution from windows occur while I prune and do the LST.

My upstairs tent, which has more light pollution contains the same plants, taken from the same mother, grown in the same manner, under the same light 600W HPS, same brand and same nutrients.

Seems like we have a valid experiment. Two situations in which every variable is the same save for one variable (light exposure during dark cycle).

My observations conclude that my development of amber trichomes are delayed by ~ 1.5 weeks in my upstairs unit. And since I’ve controlled for other variables I’ve concluded that the 1.5 week delay is a result of the light exposure during the dark cycle. And this phenomena has occurred enough times during my years of growing to be statistically significant. By that, I mean I have witnessed this issue enough times (n>30, sample size) and my analysis of the data yields p < 0.05. I’m not really interested in explaining to you college level statistics. Google it.

As for others who may disagree, perhaps it is strain, the type of light, or the fact that we all have different amounts of photoactive radiation in our respective rooms.

You said that “I’ve provided 2 inconclusive answers” and added your snide remark “The art of dodge.” Well done brother, pat yourself on the back for putting me in my place so eloquently.

I get it that for some individuals the internet serves as an outlet to cater to their need to find conflict, disagree, or simply vent. I won’t speculate on why you feel the need to tell others they are wrong with nothing more than subjective comments such as “I think….it’s my understanding…I hear, I heard”…etc.

I’ll second the advice that someone else gave you. Post some facts and move on. If you need an ego boost try yahoo answers, those guys will argue with you all day and their methods to express disagreement are more in-line with your own.
 

growman3666

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Yes she definitely tried to reveg at some point! The top shot of the cola revealed this to me with the curled deformed leaf which is a sure tell tale re vegging leaf!
 

chimera012

Member
Yes she definitely tried to reveg at some point! The top shot of the cola revealed this to me with the curled deformed leaf which is a sure tell tale re vegging leaf!
so its not nitrogen toxicity?because iv been flushing now. any other things i should change ?to get her flowering well again
 

ChemPro

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well im 100% sure i have no light leaks...i wonder would over watering affect bud growth?been feeding daily during flowering...but since i flushed 2 days ago iv noticed the soil is still rather moist
Ehhh, maybe? The plant wont invest energy in large buds if it can't support itself structurally. And the degree of structural support is directly related to its roots. Small roots = small plants and by proxy, small buds.

If you over water there isn't much incentive for the roots to spread out and give good structural support. Its when the soil dries that the plant starts kicking up its root growth so it can find more water. But if that soil is always wet then that will actually inhibit root growth. They grow to find water but if they constantly have it they wont grow as much. Kind of like a fat guy with a feeding tube, no incentive to get off the couch.

Unless you are in coco, I would not advise watering daily. I poke my finger into the soil until it reaches the 2nd knuckle. If I feel just the slightest bit of moisture I don't water, if I'm on the fence and can't really tell if I feel moisture I still wont water. I prefer under watering to over watering. On average this results in me watering around every 3 days in soil. And I only add the nutrients on every 3rd watering so if you are watering and feeding every day that could be contributing to some of the issues you have. A yellowing of the leaves is normal during late flower.
 
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