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ttystikk

ttystikk

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justugh said:
yah and clones are the death of prices ........this is happening in oregon now cali co wa

clones rule the market .......everyone is pulling in the same strains the shops only want the highest grade thc and then at a lower price 1400-1600 a lb
the market is flooded with the same genetic strain only varable is the grower .....ppl do not want the same stuff
auto plants 1 and done u collect what it makes and sell it starting a new seed a new breed a new profile .....retaining your top shelf spot in the stores getting u the best price possible with very little hussling and leg work needed

the cost of a clone vs the cost of a seed ........they are the same but a seed can be stored longer
the number of clones per plant vs number of seeds .........the seeds win every time


i gave a person seed photos i had no intention of growing here .....they have been offered 2200 lb even before the plants were sexed just becuase it was a brand new strain unseen in the area making them the only shop carring that strain

the 2nd bigest breeder/ cloner came and offered them money for the male plants 2000 a peice
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Colorado has had legal weed for years and there's a truly amazing variety of strains available. I think the widespread availability of clones improves choices and variety.

And the relative importance of grower skill in creating a top quality product has never changed. It's just becoming a lot easier for the consumer to tell mediocre product from the good stuff and make their choice.

I'm interested in how you're using nutes and non photoperiod based techniques to affect the beheading and generational cycles of 'auto'flowers. I'm going to reread this thread, what should I be looking for?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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tropicalcannabispatient said:
HE SAYS HE JUST GET THEM IN NITROGEN TOXICITY SO THEY STAY IN VEG!!!
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First, check your caps lock, makes you look like you're screaming. I don't think I deserve it, at least not yet lol

Second, N toxicity is not hard to deal with at all, so it would be an effective switch.

Might not be optimal under all circumstances but I can see how it might be useful for autos.
 
tropicalcannabispatient

tropicalcannabispatient

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ttystikk said:
Colorado has had legal weed for years and there's a truly amazing variety of strains available. I think the widespread availability of clones improves choices and variety.

And the relative importance of grower skill in creating a top quality product has never changed. It's just becoming a lot easier for the consumer to tell mediocre product from the good stuff and make their choice.

I'm interested in how you're using nutes and non photoperiod based techniques to affect the beheading and generational cycles of 'auto'flowers. I'm going to reread this thread, what should I be looking for?
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GardenGnome83 said:
Dude, quit wasting your time. Autos are for rookies who would likely kill a photo plant.
You gotta sell an oz to recoup your soil cost? Geez, you could use that money to buy some photo strains that yield big, and quit this farce.
It's been years, you say? And you still don't have it down?
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THANK YOU!!
 
tropicalcannabispatient

tropicalcannabispatient

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justugh said:
yah and clones are the death of prices ........this is happening in oregon now cali co wa

clones rule the market .......everyone is pulling in the same strains the shops only want the highest grade thc and then at a lower price 1400-1600 a lb
the market is flooded with the same genetic strain only varable is the grower .....ppl do not want the same stuff
auto plants 1 and done u collect what it makes and sell it starting a new seed a new breed a new profile .....retaining your top shelf spot in the stores getting u the best price possible with very little hussling and leg work needed

the cost of a clone vs the cost of a seed ........they are the same but a seed can be stored longer
the number of clones per plant vs number of seeds .........the seeds win every time


i gave a person seed photos i had no intention of growing here .....they have been offered 2200 lb even before the plants were sexed just becuase it was a brand new strain unseen in the area making them the only shop carring that strain

the 2nd bigest breeder/ cloner came and offered them money for the male plants 2000 a peice
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growing an auto for 70-110 days like u say doesn't sound profitable if u do that with each auto you grow from seed..
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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justugh said:
here it is so simple a 5 year can understand

u have a candy store and u love it and keep it top shape clean prefect but u offer 12 kinds of candy

now a another store opens up and they are basically the same even have some of your candy in there but they offer 32 other flavors of candy ones u do not offer and those 32 flavors change over every 2 and half months

who is going to see the most foot traffic ....the most sales and impulse buys (who is getting the data on what sells the best and what they should think about offering the ppl)
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yea but autos are hard candy. I'm more into the originals like snickers or a Hershey's or twix or a white chocolate crunch bar. I try different stuff sometimes but I usally just buy what I like.
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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justugh said:
here it is so simple a 5 year can understand

u have a candy store and u love it and keep it top shape clean prefect but u offer 12 kinds of candy

now a another store opens up and they are basically the same even have some of your candy in there but they offer 32 other flavors of candy ones u do not offer and those 32 flavors change over every 2 and half months

who is going to see the most foot traffic ....the most sales and impulse buys (who is getting the data on what sells the best and what they should think about offering the ppl)
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This part confuses me , why do you think auto seeds offer a wider selection of strains? New photo crosses are being made just as fast as new auto crosses. It sounds like you think theres a small group of photo strains... Nope, everyday they are making new ones ... Not to mention autos are fairly new so those crosses haven't been happening that long, Not as long as photos. photo crosses had a huge head start there's way more photo strains then auto strains. They've been crossing photos forever .. Autos not so much. It seems like you really want to be right, even if you're not.
 
bravedave

bravedave

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tropicalcannabispatient said:
i thought that using mycos and organic or living soil didn't mix with synthetic fertilizers chemically made with salts and other garbage? So im confused now. why u will build a living soil for almost a month and a half to then kill it with chemical fertilizer and salt and other shit? im lost and sounds like a waste of money on amendants.. I guess u learn something new everyday..
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Mycos works fine with chemical nutes. You do need to keep the "P" low though or it will inhibit. .
 
thewanderingjack

thewanderingjack

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Yodaweed said:
Photo plants cost so much less than auto's they are literally free to clone, no need to pay for seeds at all and they don't need all this special treatment you are talking about AND they yield more, autoflowers are for people that grow outdoors in areas that have weird sunlight hours and they cant flower a photo plant in those outdoor hours.
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cost effectiveness... there's good reason for people to use either... I love growing photos from seed in soil myself, preferaby outdoors but I'm doing indoors because it's what legal for me (living in town) and more convenient (somewhat unfavorable environment outdoors in my back yard... high humidity, low temps, not enough sun... and I can also do more crop rotation). I'm also 'lazy' and some systems are more work than I want to spend. That's me. It costs me little vs return at a value ratio I like. Yeah I could do more to get bigger returns... proportionally and exponentially bigger... but my circumstances are such that this works well for me.

Even commercially the goal of growing the most per plant ever is limited by budget and conditions, and each can call for different methods.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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tropicalcannabispatient said:
lmfao
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Hey man, chill a little dude.

Justugh is cool. Crazy but cool.

Autos are good smoke if done right.

I would be willing to.bet that most saying that autos are crap have never grown them or grew them years ago. They are a lot better now.

Justugh is not selling products. What he said is right. You can push autos hard. Not N tox but higher amounts of N.

I've grown some autos that were ditch weed, a couple years back. Recently with a little research and buying from reputable breeders, they have been great smoke.

Not everyone can have large plant counts. I get seeds are expensive. That's why I femmed my own. I will have hundreds of fem auto seeds this year at harvest.

Y'all can call bullshit but the guy has been doing this for years and has the threads and pics here to prove it.

Why bash on someone for doing what works for them?
 
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