55% chance of Trump beating Clinton according to 538

Fogdog

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Trump has actually created jobs unlike Hillary. Maybe she will keep talking about it ineffectually.
Oh bullshit. No wealthy person ever hired somebody unless they were convinced there is a profit in their services. If he really cared about US jobs before the election he wouldn't be applying to bring in foreign workers to work in his Florida businesses. It's all about easy money. He rakes it in and pays the least he can. Nothing particularly wrong with his low wage job creation but it's not admirable. The low wages payed to hotel workers doesn't offset manufacturing jobs lost by Trump's and the habit of the wealthy to offshore labor to make products to sell in the US.

More importantly, Trump's clumsy economic plans would tank this economy and put even more people out of work. Again offering the easy deal that George W and Reagan gave to wealthy elites by cutting taxes and raising spending to line the pockets of his buddies while putting the US even deeper in the hole.

Yesterday Trump cared not one wit about US jobs. Today he does. Tomorrow maybe not. Another day another Trump.
 
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Unclebaldrick

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Oh bullshit. No wealthy person ever hired somebody unless they were convinced there is a profit in their services. If he really cared about US jobs before the election he wouldn't be applying to bring in foreign workers to work in his Florida businesses. It's all about easy money. He rakes it in and pays the least he can. Nothing particularly wrong with his low wage job creation but it's not admirable. The low wages payed to hotel workers doesn't offset manufacturing jobs lost by Trump's and the habit of the wealthy to offshore labor to make products to sell in the US.

More importantly, Trump's clumsy economic plans would tank this economy and put even more people out of work. Again offering the easy deal that George W and Reagan gave to wealthy elites by cutting taxes and raising spending to line the pockets of his buddies while putting the US even deeper in the hole.

Yesterday Trump cared not one wit about US jobs. Today he does. Tomorrow maybe not. Another day another Trump.
It has gotten really hard to say when he is being "sarcastic" lately. Shit, it takes half of his team, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and several Congressmen to explain it to us.

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36917349
 

Fogdog

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It has gotten really hard to say when he is being "sarcastic" lately. Shit, it takes half of his team, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and several Congressmen to explain it to us.

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36917349
Too funny that. Trump told Russia to go find Hillary's e-mails while also talking about how as prez he would recognize Russia's acquisition of Crimea. But it was all a joke. Well, not so funny after all.

I can see him calling the nuclear strike that he launches as president a joke too. Or maybe he will just deny that he pushed the button. He has trouble telling the truth about 75% of the time.

Yesterday he was all about protecting our borders. Then he gets buddy-buddy with dictators like Putin and Kim Jong Un who are hostile to the US and talks about breaking the faith with NATO allies.

Another day another Trump.
 

NLXSK1

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Oh bullshit. No wealthy person ever hired somebody unless they were convinced there is a profit in their services. If he really cared about US jobs before the election he wouldn't be applying to bring in foreign workers to work in his Florida businesses. It's all about easy money. He rakes it in and pays the least he can. Nothing particularly wrong with his low wage job creation but it's not admirable. The low wages payed to hotel workers doesn't offset manufacturing jobs lost by Trump's and the habit of the wealthy to offshore labor to make products to sell in the US.

More importantly, Trump's clumsy economic plans would tank this economy and put even more people out of work. Again offering the easy deal that George W and Reagan gave to wealthy elites by cutting taxes and raising spending to line the pockets of his buddies while putting the US even deeper in the hole.

Yesterday Trump cared not one wit about US jobs. Today he does. Tomorrow maybe not. Another day another Trump.

Hillary is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. So that applies to her too right?
 

see4

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I guess that blows the whole 'Racist' thing right out of the water now doesnt it?? :P
Jesus fucking lordy christ all mighty, you are one dumb fuck.

Trump is basically asking for low wage workers, intentionally, to slave over his Florida property. Ya know, like how slave owners did back in the day.

Your comment makes us all believe that you think because slave owners fed and housed their slaves, they were in no way racist.

God mother fucking damn it, you hurt my feelings so fucking badly because you are literally dumber than the spent gum on the bottom of my god damn shoe I had to throw away. Jesus fuck, you are so fucking stupid. It is painful.
 

see4

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lol. What's comical about that picture, is that its an almost exact match comparison of the dumb states vs intelligent states. Literally all the red states highlighted rank very low in education, and the blue highlighted states tend to rank high in education.

Trump appeals to dumbshits, and the dumbshits are happy to admit it. Because they're dumbshit. It makes me sad to know that our education system has failed so many dumbshits.
 

Fogdog

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She never hires anyone unless she is convinced there is a profit... She sure scooped up Debbie quickly... That girl must really be a producer!!!
DWS accepted an honorary position. No salary. This practically proves my point that nobody is hired out of magnanimity. There is an expectation of return in value that's greater than the cost. DWS could cause enormous harm to Hillary if she went rogue. Bringing her in as honorary chairman takes that risk out of the process. Low cost-high payout.

Why would you debate me on this anyway? Aren't you the liartarian?
 

see4

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Trump has actually created jobs unlike Hillary. Maybe she will keep talking about it ineffectually.
No asshat, Trump has a net job loss statistic. Jesus fuck you are so incredibly fucking stupid. I'd say you give Arizona a bad name, but most people here are as dumb as you.
 

NLXSK1

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DWS accepted an honorary position. No salary. This practically proves my point that nobody is hired out of magnanimity. There is an expectation of return in value that's greater than the cost. DWS could cause enormous harm to Hillary if she went rogue. Bringing her in as honorary chairman takes that risk out of the process. Low cost-high payout.

Why would you debate me on this anyway? Aren't you the liartarian?
Yeah, DWS is doing it out of the goodness of her heart... Oh wait, she just threw the DNC election... She should be railroaded out of town yet suddenly she is protected by the very person that she helped out.

Total coincidence, nothing to see here folks...
 

Fogdog

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Yeah, DWS is doing it out of the goodness of her heart... Oh wait, she just threw the DNC election... She should be railroaded out of town yet suddenly she is protected by the very person that she helped out.

Total coincidence, nothing to see here folks...
Wow, that was a thoughtless response. Our back and forth started with the fact that Trump is applying for rights to import cheap labor to work in his resorts. How you moved on from Hillary to Schultz is pretty much your own idea of debate, I guess.

So let's start over because your response was not one.
Trump has actually created jobs unlike Hillary. Maybe she will keep talking about it ineffectually.
That's complete and total bullshit. Trump did not create jobs out of some sense of duty or love of fellow Americans. It's debatable whether he even he's created as many jobs as he's destroyed through his botched business deals but without a doubt, as is normal practice in his industry, most of the people he has hired work for him in low tier wages. He hired them so he can make a profit from their labor. While not necessarily bad, his hiring and wage practices are hardly admirable especially in light of his attempt to skirt the current wage situation in the US and import lower wage workers from outside the US. This all just puts the lie to his claims for love and concern of US workers.

One day he's trying to undercut wages of US workers, the next day he says he is angry about how jobs have declined in the US, tomorrow maybe he'll change his mind. A different day a different Trump

Ok, now you can change the subject again, because you don't have anything to refute what I just said.
 
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