EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

Fogdog

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hyroot said:
Isis is al-qaeda. It formed in 1989 when Russian troops withdrew from Afghanistan. After Abu Mus‘ab al-Zarqawi died the name changed to isi then isil then in 2014 isis. Reagan has more to do with the formation of isis than obama. I'm not defending obama. I think he's incompetent and the worst president we ever had. I'm just presenting facts.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant

Al Qaeda disowned the leader of ISIS because he was too extreme even for them. They currently compete for the same resources and have on occasion made war on each other. ISIS formed as an Al Qaeda-allied group in Iraq but Al Qaeda cut ties with ISIS and its leader in 2014. The formation of the group that became ISIS took place in Iraq, during the occupation by the US, so actually Bush W, the most incompetent US president ever, is the person most responsible for the formation of ISIS. I'm not defending Reagan, just presenting facts.
 
hyroot

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Fogdog

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hyroot said:
Hillary and bill stole hundreds of millions from the Clinton foundation. when they raised money for Haiti and when they took payments for helping friends get mining rights for uranium.
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Too funny. The right wingnuts have become a fact free zone. How is it that you know about that theft and nobody has filed charges or brought suit against them? If you had a working brain cell, I'd suggest you think for just one minute about the hordes of political leaders in opposition to Hillary that would seize on that information to rid themselves of the Clintons. Instead, for 25 years, they drag up scandals and spend millions on investigations only to end up with nothing. You guys don't need anything factual to make your claims. But its all just made up shit.

By your standard for making an accusation, I can apply the same standards and accuse Trump of heinous acts, only there are real trials set to go over allegations of fraud and child rape by Trump. Using your standards I can absolutely say that Trump committed criminal fraud and raped a child. Four times. In front of people. Yuck.

A big difference between my allegations and yours is mine might actually be proven true and end up in a conviction. Yours is just made up shit..
 
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hyroot

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Fogdog said:
Too funny. The right wingnuts have become a fact free zone. How is it that you know about that theft and nobody has filed charges or brought suit against them? If you had a working brain cell, I'd suggest you think for just one minute about the hordes of political leaders in opposition to Hillary that would seize on that information to rid themselves of the Clintons. Instead, for 25 years, they drag up scandals and spend millions on investigations only to end up with nothing. You guys don't need anything factual to make your claims. But its all just made up shit.

By your standard for making an accusation, I can apply the same standards and accuse Trump of heinous acts, only there are real trials set to go over allegations of fraud and child rape by Trump. Using your standards I can absolutely say that Trump committed criminal fraud and raped a child. Four times. In front of people. Yuck.

A big difference between my allegations and yours is mine might actually be proven true and end up in a conviction. Yours is just made up shit..
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Charges don't come up because of power and secrets.. All the people that were to testify turned up dead. coincidence? look at the perjury and fraud investigation and Hillary was even caught committing election fraud. anyone one else would have have been sentenced to life for what Hillary has done. There's plenty for evidence. Everyone is paid off in one way or another. Look at the congressional hearings with comy. The FBI only investigated her intent. Ignorance doesn't excuse breaking the law. In hillary's case it does. Regardless of lack of convictions and charges. That doesn't make what she did not existent. There's plenty of evidence to support what she did. but the Clinton's are too powerful.

There's no evidence of rape. There's little evidence scamming from a university. that wouldn't be the first university or trade school to scam people. how many people have degrees and can't get a job in their field. essentially that's what the trump university scandal is about

Even Hillary got her position as Secretary of state in exchange for her endorsement for Obama on 2008
 
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OddBall1st

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hyroot said:
Isis is al-qaeda. It formed in 1989 when Russian troops withdrew from Afghanistan. After Abu Mus‘ab al-Zarqawi died the name changed to isi then isil then in 2014 isis. Reagan has more to do with the formation of isis than obama. I'm not defending obama. I think he's incompetent and the worst president we ever had. I'm just presenting facts.
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No it`s not AQ.

ISIS was nothing to the world until the US sent the pretenders to hate Assad weapons to mount an attack of small cal.

ISIS was officially recognized after taking territory by brute force. ISIS still holds this territory today.

The Chemical strategy was to push Syria to the sea and let them go out to sea, in Country would be costly. Iraq was plan B. Plane A went the way of the do-do after Obama put a sizable Navy task force off the coast of Cypress with enough T-Hawks to cripple the region for a year or more. Putin Hates Chem. Weps. personally and offered a quick temperature increase for the day if they did not hand them over to him to destroy. Our boarder was not in danger of the Chemicals. His are. Those are true stories.

So plan B went into action and the size of territory was surprisingly larger than plan A. The Islamic State was born after accepting that Turkey on one side and Iran on the other with Kuwait being down there with the Saudi`s,...was better than taking on NATO on one side, and the Iranian Artillery on the other.


Nother true story,.... We got conned, used, lied to, and then betrayed, stolen from but never thanked to create the Islamic State Hostilities. After seizing Armor from Iraqis that borrowed them from the Kuait stores,...several other cities have fallen, and some have been lost. Nothing from any Super-Power to crush them on site and prevent the last 4 years.

My statement stands, Only Trump has threatened to destroy ISIS with US Military.
 
OddBall1st

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Within six months, ISIS had a Capital, Currency, Flag, Citizenry, Army,, (no AF or Navy) Territory with open boarders.


That`s not and never will be AQ. It`s the Islamic State.
 
testiclees

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hyroot said:
Charges don't come up because of power and secrets.. All the people that were to testify turned up dead. coincidence? look at the perjury and fraud investigation and Hillary was even caught committing election fraud. anyone one else would have have been sentenced to life for what Hillary has done. There's plenty for evidence. Everyone is paid off in one way or another. Look at the congressional hearings with comy. The FBI only investigated her intent. Ignorance doesn't excuse breaking the law. In hillary's case it does. Regardless of lack of convictions and charges. That doesn't make what she did not existent. There's plenty of evidence to support what she did. but the Clinton's are too powerful.

There's no evidence of rape. There's little evidence scamming from a university. that wouldn't be the first university or trade school to scam people. how many people have degrees and can't get a job in their field. essentially that's what the trump university scandal is about

Even Hillary got her position as Secretary of state in exchange for her endorsement for Obama on 2008
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You are so wildly full of shit it's cringe worthy.

Your ideological commitments are the product of thwarted development, pathetic delusion, plain low brow ignorance. Get back to discussing something where you dont stink the place up with rabid vomit scent..
 
UncleBuck

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hyroot said:
Hillary was even caught committing election fraud.
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so when is the trial?

hyroot said:
There's no evidence of rape.
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except, of course, for the witness to the fact that donald trump raped a 13 year old minor four times at the residence of a convicted pedophile.

hyroot said:
There's little evidence scamming from a university. that wouldn't be the first university or trade school to scam people. how many people have degrees and can't get a job in their field. essentially that's what the trump university scandal is about
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trump university gave out degrees?

i thought they just gave out a big cardboard cutout of trump.

did you know that nixon was a democrat?
 
testiclees

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hyroot said:
Isis is al-qaeda. It formed in 1989 when Russian troops withdrew from Afghanistan. After Abu Mus‘ab al-Zarqawi died the name changed to isi then isil then in 2014 isis. Reagan has more to do with the formation of isis than obama. I'm not defending obama. I think he's incompetent and the worst president we ever had. I'm just presenting facts.
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Youre just "presenting facts" how is your third grade, racist, creation camp opinion factual? Delusional fuck, you spout appalling bullshit that no adult would utter among civilized, adults.
 
ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant

Al Qaeda disowned the leader of ISIS because he was too extreme even for them. They currently compete for the same resources and have on occasion made war on each other. ISIS formed as an Al Qaeda-allied group in Iraq but Al Qaeda cut ties with ISIS and its leader in 2014. The formation of the group that became ISIS took place in Iraq, during the occupation by the US, so actually Bush W, the most incompetent US president ever, is the person most responsible for the formation of ISIS. I'm not defending Reagan, just presenting facts.
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George Dubbya. Worst president of my lifetime, perhaps even in the entire history of the US.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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hyroot said:
Charges don't come up because of power and secrets.. All the people that were to testify turned up dead. coincidence? look at the perjury and fraud investigation and Hillary was even caught committing election fraud. anyone one else would have have been sentenced to life for what Hillary has done. There's plenty for evidence. Everyone is paid off in one way or another. Look at the congressional hearings with comy. The FBI only investigated her intent. Ignorance doesn't excuse breaking the law. In hillary's case it does. Regardless of lack of convictions and charges. That doesn't make what she did not existent. There's plenty of evidence to support what she did. but the Clinton's are too powerful.

There's no evidence of rape. There's little evidence scamming from a university. that wouldn't be the first university or trade school to scam people. how many people have degrees and can't get a job in their field. essentially that's what the trump university scandal is about

Even Hillary got her position as Secretary of state in exchange for her endorsement for Obama on 2008
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Nope, not a shred of evidence has come forward to prove Hillary has been guilty of any of the crimes that right wing nuts have been baying about. The Republican controlled Congress has subpoena power as well as power to give immunity to witnesses/force testimony. You are living the simple right wing fact free life of a conspiracy theorist. Just like other right wingers you don't understand sentencing precedent either. What Clinton was guilty of would have triggered employee reprimand but she's not working for the govt any more. I'm not saying she did no wrong but nothing like what you say. But you need no proof. By your standard, all one needs to decide guilt is an accusation.

So, by your standard, Trump is a criminal fraudster and child rapist. He raped a child. Four times. In front of people. Yuck.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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hyroot said:
There's little evidence scamming from a university. that wouldn't be the first university or trade school to scam people. how many people have degrees and can't get a job in their field. essentially that's what the trump university scandal is about
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It's your and Trump's word against the New York Attorney General. Take it up with him.

New York AG: Trump U 'really a fraud from beginning to end'

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/eric-schneiderman-trump-university-fraud-223812#ixzz4FrJ0IpIY
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“In New York, we have laws against business fraud, we have laws against consumer fraud,” Schneiderman told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on “Good Morning America,” when asked which specific laws the Manhattan mogul broke in New York state, which filed a lawsuit against Trump in 2013. “We have a law against running an illegal unlicensed university. This never was a university. The fraud started with the name of the organization, and you can’t just go around saying this is the George Stephanopoulos Law Firm/Hospital/University without actually qualifying and registering, so it was really a fraud from beginning to end.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/eric-schneiderman-trump-university-fraud-223812#ixzz4FrIdVLjE
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That fucker bilked tens of thousands of dollars from people who thought he was going to teach them how to make money in real estate. They trusted him and in some cases were encouraged to borrow money so they could take advantage of his "special offer, believe me". You just sweep it all under the rug and spout tired hackney ginned up charges against Hillary that have gone nowhere when given intense scrutiny by her political rivals. What a chump you are. Your belief isn't the same thing as a fact.
 
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