I smoke joint almost exclusively. If i grew to sell, id switch to hydro. And wen the organic ppl, including myself i think make a bigger deal ant taste than necessary. And ppl who r really good at hydro im sure can be in par with taste, just like if an organic guy was really good and trained well, got better coverage of light could match yield.I guess I'm screwed. I hydro and I smoke joints. I honestly don't think that the atmgf and our amigos know how much I'm screwing them also,. They seem....I dunno....grateful.
Best for all concerned if none of that O-bud makes it 'round to these here parts, I'm thinkin'.
And also fuck this chart lol i love joints. Hit my joint and u WILL get a head tap in seconds, not minutes. Aaaand i bet my ass i roll a joint under 3 minutes lolI guess I'm screwed. I hydro and I smoke joints. I honestly don't think that the atmgf and our amigos know how much I'm screwing them also,. They seem....I dunno....grateful.
Best for all concerned if none of that O-bud makes it 'round to these here parts, I'm thinkin'.
Just had to chime in abt the organic vs hydro junk... keep scrolling if yr over it...
I grew hydro dwc, rdwc, recirc drip, ebb n flow for over 5 years very successfully. Completely dialed in. Id bring in 9 week plants that looked as healthy as day 1 of flower, not a blemish. Or plants that were flushed for 2 full weeks. The bud was killer. Everyone including myself loved it and 4 people (hardcore everyday smokers) told me it was the best they ever smoked.
I also grew using "organic" bottled nutrients in a coco base with a couple synthetic additives. Hydro blew this method away so i didnt do it for long.
Fast forward to present time. Been growing fully organic (or as close as i can, being an indoor environment) for abt a year. Not organic bottles, im talkin raw organic non gmo pure dry amendments like crab kelp and neem meals, guanos etc. THE YEILD IS NOT THE SAME AS DRO BUT THE TASTE IS 100 TIMES BETTER. The difference in yeild is not even enough to make me go back to hydro.
To each their own but dnt knock shit before u try it. And im not talking abt u "i run half synthetic and half organic" guys. U dont count, that does not qualify as organic and it tastes nothing like organic.
Im not knocking the hydro guys here ok, to each their own. If u got a system that works, work that shit. But when someone says hydro is better quality or flavor, thats when i gotta speak up because my experience has been very different.
@greasemonkeymann @st0wandgrow @Crab Pot i believe have all mentioned the environmental benefits of organic, so if yr not gonna try it at least dont knock it. Why not encourage new growers to go organic first? If its better for the environment then that means its better for ALL!
@JDGreen i believe u tried my organic flowers no? Could u please state to the jury what kinda method u were growing at the time u tried them, and what method u switched to afterwards? The method you are currently using?
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Because....elitists?Why if a person wants yield, they are cash croppers? I don't get it..
No.....that's just impossible. Haven't you been reading along?Lucky charms. ...1 in dwc & 1 in organic mix...
My village people love the dwc nugs..I like them both.although the dwc has more marshmallow smell & taste.organic is more kusy....same cuts.
Start here?I'm not a keep the world green type guys....get rid of human beings if you want to do that.
Why if a person wants yield, they are cash croppers? I don't get it..
Organic is good,not the best...nothing is the best.
Hydro is good,not the best....nothing is the best.
Lucky charms. ...1 in dwc & 1 in organic mix...
My village people love the dwc nugs..I like them both.although the dwc has more marshmallow smell & taste.organic is more kusy....same cuts.
I'm not a keep the world green type guys....get rid of human beings if you want to do that.
ALWAYS double-tag my man!I was thinking just that, I can hardly keep the proper tags on my pots, i have so so many question marks in my breeding efforts lol.
I have only ever had one full pack of seeds that didn't crack and they were herijuana from meduser. It was the first time I heard that I should have used sand paper on the beans and I was like wtf!!?
you think dynagrow is "safer" than organics??I judge a plants health and performance by growth and yield. When I get substantially faster growth and yield with Dynagro in hydroton than when I did a no till it tells me the plants like "chemicals". I don't argue with the plants and they seem to love hydroponics. As far as flavor, feeding sulfur and adding uv light and a broad spectrum of light does more for terpene production than anything. I also suspect that a rich organic soil has heavy metals and my hydro has a whiter ash with less residue than my organic.
I agree with most of that. The thing that organic purists tend to skip over is that the plant takes up the nutrients in the EXACT same chemical form wether those nutrients are synthetically or organically derived. There is no difference.Why if a person wants yield, they are cash croppers? I don't get it..
Organic is good,not the best...nothing is the best.
Hydro is good,not the best....nothing is the best.
Lucky charms. ...1 in dwc & 1 in organic mix...
My village people love the dwc nugs..I like them both.although the dwc has more marshmallow smell & taste.organic is more kusy....same cuts.
I'm not a keep the world green type guys....get rid of human beings if you want to do that.
I'm definitely a soil guy (organic-ish type guy)..I agree with most of that. The thing that organic purists tend to skip over is that the plant takes up the nutrients in the EXACT same chemical form wether those nutrients are synthetically or organically derived. There is no difference.
Where the difference lays is in how the nutrients are chelated, and how the plant takes them up. With synthetics the grower feeds the plant. Inexperienced growers play a guessing game. A dash of this and a dash of that. With organics the guess work is removed. The microbes and the plant call the shots. So, for the average grower you will come closer to the plants genetic potential using organics imo. A good/experienced grower working with a strain that he's farmiliar with will knock it outta the park no matter what method is being used.
I am a "save the world" kinda guy, so that's part of my reason for growing organically and using as much shit from around my yard as possible. Probably doesn't make much of a difference, but it all adds up...and it tickles me to see my kids already interested in worm farms and the like.
That's a good point about the soil taking time. I almost gave up on organics after my first run. Definitely gets better as it ages.I'm definitely a soil guy (organic-ish type guy)..
The only reason I don't push full on orgain,cause like you say..first time growers want to see results,fast..in organic pots,it takes time (2nd-3rd run is when a good organic pot,will match dwc,if not pass it)
I'm definitely getting a worm bin,my kids are stuck on bugs right now..
Heres my 1000th..... @st0wandgrow is the friggin MAN!!! ... hows that for a 1000th post!?!?!Great post, and a beautiful plant!
I agree with all of the above, but as you said, each to their own.
Btw, that was your 999'th post. #1000 better be a good'un!
Yr far from screwed, my friend! Like i said, when i grew dro everyone loved it! Including myself! Had no intention in changing anything and i didnt change methods until i changed locations. But peoole loved the dro, shit it was killer weed! Aint knockin the dro bro bro like st0w said- capable hand will create beautiful product reguardless of method (paraphrasing here sry st0w i know i butchered yr quote but im too lazy to lookit up lol)I guess I'm screwed. I hydro and I smoke joints. I honestly don't think that the atmgf and our amigos know how much I'm screwing them also,. They seem....I dunno....grateful.
Best for all concerned if none of that O-bud makes it 'round to these here parts, I'm thinkin'.
Sry master butthead for cloggin up the thread for the 1000th time! Yr absolutley right. Ill be standing starring in the corner... You hear that mother fockers?? We just took the thread from 52.576% bodhi info to 52.434% bodhi info w our bs org vs synth nonsense!! BODHI TALK ONLY!!! Let me demonstrate...There's no one "best way to grow"...
If you wanna discuss the merits of a growing style, start a new thread. Or, join the hundreds of thousands of threads already out there....
This thread becomes useless with non-Bodhi related info clogging up the pages.