Unclebaldrick
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Nor do I, but that is the choice we must make.
Believe me, I loath her more than some Republicans as a person. But it does not matter anymore. It is a pareto-optimal choice.
55% chance of Trump beating Clinton according to 538
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Believe me, I loath her more than some Republicans as a person. But it does not matter anymore. It is a pareto-optimal choice.
Padawanbater2
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The entire rest of the government save a few retarded republicans in congress is against Trump, nothing would get passed
I think it's immature and self centered to vote for a candidate that subverts democracy
I'm never having kids
Nutes and Nugs
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He's not giving away free shit.
ttystikk
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No, it's a vote cast for whom I want to see in office. If Mrs Clinton loses, she has no one but herself and the DNC to blame.
If you need to resort to fear tactics, maybe your candidate isn't as strong as you would like her to be?
ttystikk
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THIS. It bears repeating.
doublejj
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good luck with Trump....he's on your conscience not mine
Unclebaldrick
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If we get through this, can I rightly say I served my country?
I am driving old people to the polls, but only the smart ones.
Unclebaldrick
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Seriously Pad... is it news to you that the intra-party process is often unfair and messy and had frequently "subverted" the people? Hillary is not the first, or 15th. She has been dreaming and calculating for this all her life and has learned American politics in all of its facets. If I recall correctly, it incensed your feelings about democracy. Democracy, as we know it, survives this shit as long as people don't lose their heads and vote in a dictator.
In my belief we are close to doing that. If your vote might make a difference in your state, please think long and hard the next few months.
ttystikk
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good luck with Trump....he's on your conscience not mine
Newp. I didn't nominate him. I'm not voting for him. Not my responsibility to save the democratic party from its own excesses.
I get to vote for whom I please, and I do so with a clear conscience.
You can't say the same, can you? Of course not. That's why all the guilt trips.
tangerinegreen555
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If Trump wins, it will be because he got more votes my friend.
And there goes the Supreme Court...on it's way to 6-3 to the right. Look at their ages and vacancies. What's more important? The next 4 years or the next 30? Life is a compromise.
doublejj
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It's got nothing to do with saving the democratic party.......it's about saving the country.
Unclebaldrick
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I think you are underestimating the possibility of a retard/opportunist coalition.
Don't be selfish when you are making this choice. I do not want my kid to learn about Noah's Ark in public school. You are so wrong about the risk.
Unclebaldrick
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And my kid doesn't want to grow up with me in a partisan band.
ttystikk
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Then it seems you and I have a different vision of what that phrase means.
see4
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A totally reasonable and valid argument.
However, shoulda-coulda-woulda doesn't help with progress. You would essentially be biting your own nose to spite your face.
I don't like Hillary. Not in the slightest. She will likely move to make more guns more difficult to get and she will likely do nothing to progress marijuana laws. And she will likely give us 4 more years of war. But with all that, she is still a better candidate than Trump.
I've still not been shown how Hillary is truly corrupt. Corruption, the provable kind, is punishable by law.
see4
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100% exactly accurate statement. And nothing else.
Milliardo Peacecraft
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http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/24/l...-reward-big-donors-with-federal-appointments/
This kind of corruption? Promising political appointments, regardless of merit, to political donors is a felony.
The DNC is going to have some big fat class-action suits, including a RICO suit to deal with in the next few months. RIP Donkeys
This kind of corruption? Promising political appointments, regardless of merit, to political donors is a felony.
The DNC is going to have some big fat class-action suits, including a RICO suit to deal with in the next few months. RIP Donkeys
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