FBI NOT GOING TO RECOMMEND INDICTMENT!!

8thGenFarmer

8thGenFarmer

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b4ds33d said:
They've used the "well she's not up on technology" argument to fool all the retards. Anyone who's had an upper level security clearance gets heaps of training on what is allowed and what isn't. So whether they can establish motive or not should be inconsequential. If the causative factor was negligence, the end result is the same as if it were straight up espionage.
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She doesn't keep a computer in her office so the NSA can't spy on her like the rubes. She supports the patriot act by the way.
 
b4ds33d

b4ds33d

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8thGenFarmer said:
She doesn't keep a computer in her office so the NSA can't spy on her like the rubes. She supports the patriot act by the way.
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Sorry but not keeping a computer in your office when you have a job like that is just fucking retarded. It shows her detachment from reality and that she's trying to hide shit.

Ps- fuck the patriot act. This notion that you can give something a name that is in direct contradiction of what it is (common sense gun control, smart guns, president of the United States) and fool the idiot masses is just mind blowing. Put the cyanide in the flavored drink and call it kool-aid....
 
Fogdog

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8thGenFarmer said:
Um the Syria crisis? Jesus man read the emails on wikileaks. She is beyond a hawk. She was pushing for regime change hard there, which directly led to the ISIS crisis. She also pushed hard for regime change in Lybia. Now there are so many refugees coming to Europe the EU is going to fracture.

Bush took all the blame while she danced for the cameras saying how she was dragged into it. Bullshit, she has voted with the republicans like John McCain on every single war vote she had. Barbara boxer didn't fuck up nearly as many votes. She's a CIA sockpupppet who knows how to draw just enough distinction between herself and the republicans so that America can't vote themselves out of the wars no matter how hard they try. You want the hawk on the right or the hawk on the left. Neither thank you very much.
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Right now, I don't know what to think of Hillary. All I've seen, heard and read is so full of hate and vitriol, not to mention bullshit that I can't really believe it. She was secretary of state under Obama. How is Syria her doing? How do you know she's a CIA sockpuppet. I'm guessing you believe this stuff because of something your read.

That said, she did vote in favor of the invasion of Iraq. Along with most other senators. Bernie did not. I voted for Bernie in the primaries. Bernie is voting for Hillary. If he can see a good reason for voting for Hillary then I can't help but think that all this stuff is just made up shit. I don't think he'd do so if it were all true. I prefer Bernie. He's not going to be prez. I'm voting just like Bernie is.

I think people should vote according to their principles. But it's complicated. Well not in all cases. Trump is a bigot and a monomaniac, he's not a difficult entity to exclude from my list of candidates. The choice is to place a protest vote and basically leave it up to everybody else to elect a president or place a vote for Hillary. As I said earlier, I can't believe all the shit that's said of her and Trump is a fucking disaster of a prez in waiting.

Wasting a vote as a protest in 2000 only put right wingers in power, where they dominated for the rest of the decade. That was followed by Enron scandal, 9-11, invasion of Iraq, water boarding and torture, Guantanamo, the Patriot Act, Blackwater massacres, tax cuts, massive spending increases, ballooning debt, mishandling of the economy and the Great Recession. Wasting that vote achieved evil.

My point is that there is no morally pure decision here. Go ahead and place a protest vote but know that it isn't such a high road as you proclaim. Again, I don't believe all the shit written about Hillary and I think she's going to make a great president. Not the greatest, maybe not even top 10 but still a better one than Trump by several hundred country miles.
 
b4ds33d

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StevieBevie said:
So basically they have acknowledged she is an old grandma that is out of touch with the electronic age, but she should be our president...lol, no matter how you look at it or which angle one takes she is not qualified...
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100% agreed. Not just because she preys on ignorance, is a huge Margaret Sanger fan, and lies every chance she can. My reason is mostly Benghazi and how she left 4 Americans to die and doesn't think it's a big deal. To all Veterans that have lost people, that's a huge fucking deal. In fact, if that were her only strike, she still wouldn't be fit for office.
 
8thGenFarmer

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Fogdog said:
Right now, I don't know what to think of Hillary. All I've seen, heard and read is so full of hate and vitriol, not to mention bullshit that I can't really believe it. She was secretary of state under Obama. How is Syria her doing? How do you know she's a CIA sockpuppet. I'm guessing you believe this stuff because of something your read.

That said, she did vote in favor of the invasion of Iraq. Along with most other senators. Bernie did not. I voted for Bernie in the primaries. Bernie is voting for Hillary. If he can see a good reason for voting for Hillary then I can't help but think that all this stuff is just made up shit. I don't think he'd do so if it were all true. I prefer Bernie. He's not going to be prez. I'm voting just like Bernie is.

I think people should vote according to their principles. But it's complicated. Well not in all cases. Trump is a bigot and a monomaniac, he's not a difficult entity to exclude from my list of candidates. The choice is to place a protest vote and basically leave it up to everybody else to elect a president or place a vote for Hillary. As I said earlier, I can't believe all the shit that's said of her and Trump is a fucking disaster of a prez in waiting. Wasting a vote as a protest in 2000 only put right wingers in power, where they dominated for the rest of the decade. That was followed by Enron scandal, 9-11, invasion of Iraq, water boarding and torture, Guantanamo, the Patriot Act, Blackwater massacres, tax cuts, massive spending increases, ballooning debt, mishandling of the economy and the Great Recession. Wasting that vote achieved evil.

My point is that there is no morally pure decision here. Go ahead and place a protest vote but know that it isn't such a high road as you proclaim. Again, I don't believe all the shit written about Hillary and I think she's going to make a great president. Not the greatest, maybe not even top 10 but still a better one than Trump by several hundred country miles.
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Better than trump, I can see that. Well stated points and your skepticism is well founded. I happen to believe we've had CIA sockpuppet presidents since the death of Kennedy, but I am, admittedly, a consiracy theorist when it comes to foreign policy. Only way it makes sense to me Carter can start arming the mujahideen then Reagan takes over without a pause. Our foreign policy barely changes even with different parties leading.

The appeal to the idea that Bernie will vote for her is a strong one. I really really like Bernie. If you are following his example I can't fault you for that. He's a good man.

At this point though, I'm a single issue voter, with almost a million dead in the Middle East since the start of Americas overthrowing of every non-Arab regime. Trump is a biggot, But our foreign policy is actually killing people, with now a very real possibility of war with Russia over their Mediterranean access. Just me, but I won't vote for ANY Hawks any more.
 
StevieBevie

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b4ds33d said:
100% agreed. Not just because she preys on ignorance, is a huge Margaret Sanger fan, and lies every chance she can. My reason is mostly Benghazi and how she left 4 Americans to die and doesn't think it's a big deal. To all Veterans that have lost people, that's a huge fucking deal. In fact, if that were her only strike, she still wouldn't be fit for office.
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Yes her idolizing of Sanger is crazy, her foundation accepting donations from countries that are against equal rights for women astounds me, Benghazi showed her total lack of care and empathy, and then the cover up of it was worse, and mostly her changing her beliefs and views like the leaves in fall change color, well there can be no trust there for someone that in reality stands for nothing but her own self indulgence.
 
8thGenFarmer

8thGenFarmer

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b4ds33d said:
100% agreed. Not just because she preys on ignorance, is a huge Margaret Sanger fan, and lies every chance she can. My reason is mostly Benghazi and how she left 4 Americans to die and doesn't think it's a big deal. To all Veterans that have lost people, that's a huge fucking deal. In fact, if that were her only strike, she still wouldn't be fit for office.
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My problem with Benghazi is they were scooping up weapons to send to "rebels" in Syria. Arming jihadists is a terrible idea, didn't work well for us in Afghanistan against Russia. Bit us hard in the ass, now we at it again
 
Fogdog

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b4ds33d said:
Quite the idyllic and quaint world where you live in huh? The only people that get to make morally pure decisions are in elementary school.
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did you know that Trump raped a child? Not once but four times? In front of people, yuck. A witness has come forward. By your standard, Trump is guilty based upon the accusation alone. Fucking right wing fascists don't care about proof. Just lock them up.

My reply was to a thinking person. Not you.
 
StevieBevie

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Not a Trump fan, but can't even take this seriously....
Lawsuits accusing Donald Trump of sexually assaulting a child in the 1990s appear to have been orchestrated by an eccentric anti-Trump campaigner with a record of making outlandish claims about celebrities.

Norm Lubow, a former producer on the Jerry Springer TV show, has previously been involved with disputed allegations that OJ Simpson bought illegal drugs on the day Simpson’s wife was murdered, and that Kurt Cobain’s widow had the Nirvana frontman killed.
 
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