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txponto

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I'm not sure what's going on with this little one...
Started yellowing and slow growth.


How often you are watering: Currently watering ~ 2-3 days depending on what the soil feels like. I'm only watering around the stem itself since it is in a larger pot than what it probably should be. I'm watering with well tap water left out 24+hrs with pH drops to bring it down to about 6.8. My run off is ~6.2

The NPK ratio of the soil if that info is available. Says on the bag .06 .06 .06
What light she is under? I'm using a CFL equal to 2700 lumen
How long since she broke ground? It's been 12 days.
 

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coreywebster

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Edit your original post to include information on the following
How often you are watering
What type of water, tap, well, ro.
The PH of your water
The PH of your soil if it says on the pack or of the run off if you can test it.
The NPK ratio of the soil if that info is available.
What light she is under
How long since she broke ground
That will help people help you.
As much info as you can give. It may be she needs a feed but without any info it would be a guessing game and folks who know the most don't like to guess.
 
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txponto

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coreywebster said:
Edit your original post to include information on the following
How often you are watering
What type of water, tap, well, ro.
The PH of your water
The PH of your soil if it says on the pack or of the run off if you can test it.
The NPK ratio of the soil if that info is available.
What light she is under
How long since she broke ground
That will help people help you.
As much info as you can give. It may be she needs a feed but without any info it would be a guessing game and folks who know the most don't like to guess.
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Thank you. I've added what I know.
 
coreywebster

coreywebster

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txponto said:
I'm not sure what's going on with this little one...
Started yellowing and slow growth.


How often you are watering: Currently watering ~ 2-3 days depending on what the soil feels like. I'm only watering around the stem itself since it is in a larger pot than what it probably should be. I'm watering with well tap water left out 24+hrs with pH drops to bring it down to about 6.8. My run off is ~6.2

The NPK ratio of the soil if that info is available. Says on the bag .06 .06 .06
What light she is under? I'm using a CFL equal to 2700 lumen
How long since she broke ground? It's been 12 days.
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Well your ph is great, run off great, don't see an issue with your CFL.
Most likely she needs some food. However I am not used to npk ratios of .06 .06 .06, usually 3-2-1 or something, you may be better waiting for another response as far as that ratio goes.
I never asked about temps? She doesn't look to be suffering from heat. Is she cold?
 
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txponto

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I checked the temp earlier and it was 78 so I don't think she's cold. I did as of yesterday throw some of that Alaskan fish emulsion in at 1/4 strength let it sit for a day before actually feeding. The pH of that mix was the same of just pH treated water.

I did read that if the pot is to large that the plant will spend a lot of energy growing out the roots. Is that actually true and would that give me these symptoms?
 
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coreywebster

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txponto said:
I checked the temp earlier and it was 78 so I don't think she's cold. I did as of yesterday throw some of that Alaskan fish emulsion in at 1/4 strength let it sit for a day before actually feeding. The pH of that mix was the same of just pH treated water.

I did read that if the pot is to large that the plant will spend a lot of energy growing out the roots. Is that actually true and would that give me these symptoms?
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I don't think its true, in general the root system will reflect the size of the plant and visa versa. Balanced growth. I don't think it would cause this paling. The other thing would be that the lower part of the pot where the roots are growing towards could be not getting enough water or getting too much. That could cause all sorts of issues. But you said you were getting run off so doubt its too dry. Too wet more likely, if its a big pot been watered every few days, the roots may be too wet too long. Missing out on oxygen and struggling to absorb food
 
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txponto

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coreywebster said:
I don't think its true, in general the root system will reflect the size of the plant and visa versa. Balanced growth. I don't think it would cause this paling. The other thing would be that the lower part of the pot where the roots are growing towards could be not getting enough water or getting too much. That could cause all sorts of issues. But you said you were getting run off so doubt its too dry. Too wet more likely, if its a big pot been watered every few days, the roots may be too wet too long. Missing out on oxygen and struggling to absorb food
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So should I just let it sit without water/food for a couple extra days?
 
coreywebster

coreywebster

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I don't think it will hurt her to let her dry out some. Those bottom leaves are food so she wont starve. Just keep an eye on her. Shes going to have a small root zone so she wont go from slight wilt to death quickly, she will give you plenty of notice when she wants watering again. I guess what I'm saying is better for her to dry out and play it safe than to carry on watering, dryness or slight wilt is an easy fix, overwatering is not an easy fix. I hope I'm making sense!
 
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txponto

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coreywebster said:
I don't think it will hurt her to let her dry out some. Those bottom leaves are food so she wont starve. Just keep an eye on her. Shes going to have a small root zone so she wont go from slight wilt to death quickly, she will give you plenty of notice when she wants watering again. I guess what I'm saying is better for her to dry out and play it safe than to carry on watering, dryness or slight wilt is an easy fix, overwatering is not an easy fix. I hope I'm making sense!
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You are. This is my first grow in several years so I'm trying to re-educate myself as I go along. But, I will let her dry for a few days before worrying to much about it. I'll just keep checking in and taking updated photos so I can see the progress she's making.
Thanks for you help.
 
coreywebster

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This is taken from www.cannabis.info

As discussed, the main objective when propagating your seedlings is to quickly establish a healthy root zone. To do this it is good to understand the effects of watering the root zone.

Roots grow in response to depletion zones, i.e. outwards to search for water and food. When a root has absorbed all of the available water and minerals in one area of growing medium, it grows outwards to find more. This is how the plant ‘fills’ the growing medium with roots. Therefore, it is essential to allow the growing medium to dry out before re-watering. This allows the roots to use up the majority of the food and water present.

When water and food is always available, the roots don’t need to search out for them and the root zone will be underdeveloped.

GL with her!
 
SPLFreak808

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txponto said:
I'm not sure what's going on with this little one...
Started yellowing and slow growth.


How often you are watering: Currently watering ~ 2-3 days depending on what the soil feels like. I'm only watering around the stem itself since it is in a larger pot than what it probably should be. I'm watering with well tap water left out 24+hrs with pH drops to bring it down to about 6.8. My run off is ~6.2

The NPK ratio of the soil if that info is available. Says on the bag .06 .06 .06
What light she is under? I'm using a CFL equal to 2700 lumen
How long since she broke ground? It's been 12 days.
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Post the exact model cfl
Post the exact bag of soil
Post the PPM of your tap water and you will get an answer
 
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txponto

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Hey wanted to update this.
I dried her out over a few extra days and things are starting to look better. It looks like I might have a slight nite burn so I am going to flush the soil after my next watering. I say after the next because I have been going easy on the watering for this one just trying to get her a little healthier first.
 

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When they are seedlings I meant...its better to start on little Styrofoam cups with holes poked in the bottom its easier to control the watering and root growth so they can thrive.....u want the roots to chase the water to the bottom and out the cup ...when u water in veg go by the pot weight...when u pick up the pot and its nice and light that's when u should water ...root health and mass is everything plus ull have less chance of root pests and fungus gNat's
 
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