Best breeders for haze and african strains

HazeFreak

HazeFreak

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Hey wassup I'm looking to grow some good haze and african strain jus needed some suggestion to what breeder. Any suggestion would be great
 
HazeFreak

HazeFreak

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I stumbled upon apothecary seeds so as far African strains go I'm almost sure of growing Durban, Congo/Nigerian/Hash plant, and Malawi. Hazes have been narrowed down to Haze Freak by connoisseur, dark shadow haze, and Neville's haze probably does anybody have recent experience with this strain or any that ive mentioned
 
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RoneGrown

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Sativied said:
Sensi for haze. Why use knock offs when you can buy the originals.


Cannalope* Haze

Which is not that hazy really, strong though. They created super cannalope haze as more actualy hazy version.
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I don't understand completely you say why buy something not original, but you say their cannelope haze is not hazy. And they crossbreed it with something to make it more hazy. Doesn't that not make it original
 
Sativied

Sativied

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RoneGrown said:
I don't understand completely you say why buy something not original, but you say their cannelope haze is not hazy. And they crossbreed it with something to make it more hazy. Doesn't that not make it original
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Honestly I misread the title when I replied to this thread. Thought it was about best places to get hazes for breeding instead of best breeders for haze.

Not much original about cannalope haze nor the updated version though, a c99 cross according to many, which in turn is based on sensi Jack Herer and sensi shiva skunk. If it is what DNA genetics says, Original Haze is available at Flying Dutchmen (part of sensi now) and sensi sells mexican sativa too...

Super CH is CH x g13-haze. G13 is an afghani cross which depending on the source was crossed with Original Haze to create g13-haze. It's all the same old shit. Pure haze takes 12 weeks up to much longer, other "hazes" are mostly skunk, afghani and NL (afghani) crosses.

Silver Haze from sensi, Super Silver Haze from MNS, Lemon Haze from GHS, those produce very hazy plants, but also plenty of good SSH hybrids that finish in 9 weeks and are not always good for breeding hazes but can be great for growing,
 
shorelineOG

shorelineOG

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Sativied said:
Sensi for haze. Why use knock offs when you can buy the originals.


Cannalope* Haze

Which is not that hazy really, strong though. They created super cannalope haze as more actualy hazy version.
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I know you're in Holland, is Sensi Seeds the same as the used to be? Many people are saying their strains are different now. I know they have a lot of the original strains. What do you recommend from them and the Flying Dutchman?
 
Sativied

Sativied

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shorelineOG said:
I know you're in Holland, is Sensi Seeds the same as the used to be? Many people are saying their strains are different now. I know they have a lot of the original strains. What do you recommend from them and the Flying Dutchman?
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Those people highly overestimate what Sensi was in the first place. In some ways it's still what it was, one of the best places to get crosses based on the oldies, and some of the oldies themselves. Once that simply meant the best seed collection one could buy from, as in the best seedbank.The stories about how those and others are no longer original are especially fueled by seed banks who had/have Neville as a mascot 10 years later, GHS and MNS.

After the many initial skunk/afghan/kush/haze/NL crosses the next obvious step was three way crosses which do not produce uniform plants with phenos leaning to all three (grand)parents. Especially the haze varieties are clearly better for breeding and/or finding keepers than growing something consistent from a pack. I also got to say their germination rates suck (from the store anyway).

As for specific recommendations, that depends a lot on your goals and preferences. For let's say educational purposes, grow afghani, skunk (I'd pick the pure from FD), O haze, hindu kush or master kush, and NL5#xHaze, silver haze, and jack herer.

Or, figure out what percentage of afghan/NL/Skunk/Haze you'd prefer. I personally would not bother with their NL, the early girl and pearl, and big bud, unless I wanted to source specific traits for a breeding project. I smoked and sold most of the classics in the 90s and it really never was as great as people nowadays dream. It makes me more nostalgic than high.

As for FD, I have no experience growing their strain but their original haze is original haze, and the Pure is original skunk. As original as it gets anyway... Don't let the prices fool you, it's weird really, flying dutchmen (owned by sensi now) seems too cheap, Sensi is getting absurd.

I see now FD sells afghanica... that was once the best and tastiest I smoked, in 95/96, made everything else smell blend. I don't know if theirs produces the same phenos, but this is one of the most accurate pages on wiki lol:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanica_(cannabis)
If I didn't have enough going in already I'd buy that one tomorrow just to see if it's.... original.
 
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Sativied

Sativied

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Left is panama (Ace), right is silver haze
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panama cola for size ref:
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I highly recommend the panama for growing a sativa, mine smells like an exotic incense and the high is very clear. Has a slight hazy-like undertone but very different from the spicey vs perfume/incense haze I'm used to.
 
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buckets

buckets

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I liked panama too from Ace Seeds. I also highly recomend the iranian haze from Dr. Greenthumb seeds in Canada. It doesn't take as long either.
 
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