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Jonjon5555

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I don't think aloe Vera will do much of anything for your plants. Been a talk that comes up here and there on forums but nothing that has ever had amazing results or any at that. In my personal opinion it's just another variable in your grow and for a newbie I would not recommend making uneeded variables. That could just be me though, I would focus on learning the basics of keeping a marijuana plant healthy and then you won't have anything to worry about.
 
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Olive Drab Green

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Jonjon5555 said:
I don't think aloe Vera will do much of anything for your plants. Been a talk that comes up here and there on forums but nothing that has ever had amazing results or any at that. In my personal opinion it's just another variable in your grow and for a newbie I would not recommend making uneeded variables. That could just be me though, I would focus on learning the basics of keeping a marijuana plant healthy and then you won't have anything to worry about.
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Aloe or coconut water. Coco water has cytokinins. Both are known to be good for plant stress. You're wrong, and it works.
 
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waterproof808

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Jonjon5555 said:
I don't think aloe Vera will do much of anything for your plants. Been a talk that comes up here and there on forums but nothing that has ever had amazing results or any at that. In my personal opinion it's just another variable in your grow and for a newbie I would not recommend making uneeded variables. That could just be me though, I would focus on learning the basics of keeping a marijuana plant healthy and then you won't have anything to worry about.
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you will be quite wrong about many things if the only resource you use is forums and don't do your own research. Aloe Vera has many benefits and it's nearly impossible to overuse, plus you can grow it easily which makes it practically free.

Look up the benefits of salicylic acid for plants....aloe is chock full of it among a ton of other compounds that are beneficial. http://agresearchmag.ars.usda.gov/2003/dec/plant
 
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Jonjon5555

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Olive Drab Green said:
Aloe or coconut water. Coco water has cytokinins. Both are known to be good for plant stress. You're wrong, and it works.
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Mj doesn't get coconut water and aloe Vera in the wild not only that but nobody uses it. I was simply saying in a newbie forum it seems to be more of a hassal then a medicine. One of the biggest things people tell new growers is to not complicate things and youre telling them to do just that... That's all I'm saying, not trying to put down your aloe Vera or coconut water which may contain something that helps stress
 
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waterproof808 said:
you will be quite wrong about many things if the only resource you use is forums and don't do your own research. Aloe Vera has many benefits and it's nearly impossible to overuse, plus you can grow it easily which makes it practically free.

Look up the benefits of salicylic acid for plants....aloe is chock full of it among a ton of other compounds that are beneficial. http://agresearchmag.ars.usda.gov/2003/dec/plant
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Remind me when I stated my only resource was forums? Just because aloe is chock full of something a plant can benifit from doesn't mean you understand how to make it available for mj. Can't just grab some leaf smash it with a rock and throw it on your dirt and assume it to do benifits.
 
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waterproof808

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Jonjon5555 said:
Mj doesn't get coconut water and aloe Vera in the wild not only that but nobody uses it.
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We aren't growing herb in the wild, so that point is moot. I'd estimate 95% of the shit people feed MJ is not something that would occur naturally in the wild and besides, top shelf cannabis doesn't grow very by itself without human intervention.
And in fact, it is as easy as smashing a blade of aloe in your watering can and watching as your leaves point upwards to the sun within an hour of watering.

Here is a cut and paste of aloe composition. If you compare this list with what people normally feed MJ, you will see aloe contains many things people give their plants i.e. amino acids, salicylic acid, b vitamins, saponins, auxins, gibberellins, enzymes, etc.

What aloe vera contains? What makes it so powerful healer?

Aloe leaf contains over 240 nutritional and medicinal ingredients, including vitamins, minerals, enzymes, sugars, lignin, saponins, sterols, amino acids, salicylic acid, etc.

No other natural product contains so many ingredients beneficial to health.

Read the ingredients of aloe vera with the explanation of they affect human health.



1. Amino Acids

Aloe vera contains 19 of the 20 known amino acids, which are necessary for our organism.

The human body can produce only 12 of the 20 amino acids and our body cannot produce the other 8 and they have to be consumed via food. These are known as essential amino acids.

Aloe vera contains 7 of the 8 essential amino acids:

  • Isoleucine
  • Leucine
  • Lysine
  • Methionine
  • Phenylalanine
  • Threonine
  • Valin
Aloe vera also contains 12 non-essential amino acids:

  • Alanine
  • Arginine
  • Asparagine
  • Cysteine
  • Glutamic acid
  • Glycine
  • Histidine
  • Proline
  • Serin
  • Tyrosine
  • Glutamine
  • Aspartic acid
Amino acids are important elements involved in the construction of proteins and muscle tissue.

The missing amino acids on this list is Tryptophan. Recent research on aloe show that it contains even Tryptophan. In any case, aloe vera is a great source of amino acids!



2. Anthraquinone

Aloe Vera contains 12 anthraquinones:

  • Aloe emodin
  • Aloetic acid
  • Aloin
  • Antracin
  • Antranol
  • Barbaloin
  • Chrysophanic acid
  • Emodin
  • Ethereal oil
  • Cinnamonic acid ester
  • Isobarbaloin
  • Resistannol
These 12 anthraquinone are found only in aloe vera juice. They promote the functioning of the digestive system; they have analgesic, antibacterial, antifungal and antiviral properties.

In high concentrations, anthraquinones can be toxic, but aloe vera juice contains ideal amounts of these compounds.



3. Enzymes

Aloe Vera contains 8 enzymes:

  • Aliiase
  • Alkaline phosphatase
  • Amylase
  • Carboxypeptidase
  • Catalase
  • Cellulase
  • Lipase
  • Peroxidase
Enzymes help break down sugars and fats from food and thus improve digestion and absorption of nutrients.

For external use enzymes reduce inflammation and pain and accelerate the healing of wounds.



4. Hormones

Aloe vera contains two hormones:

  • Auxin
  • Gibberellin
Auxin and Gibberellin help heal wounds, prevent inflammation and infection.

Gibberellin acts as a growth hormone that regenerates cells and stimulates their growth.



5. Lignins

Lignins are plant fibers which are used to connect and support, and give the strength to plant. Lignins in Aloe Vera penetrate deep into the skin and introduce other medicinal ingredients of aloe vera into our skin.



6. Salicylic acid

Aloe vera contains salicylic acid - natural painkiller which also has anti-inflammatory and anti-bacterial properties.

Aspirin is nothing other than salicylic acid in chemical form. Aloe vera has the effect of aspirin, but operates in a gentle manner and has no adverse effects on health.



7. Saponins

Saponins, found in aloe vera, have a cleansing and antiseptic effect. They have anti-microbial properties and protect against bacteria, viruses and fungi.



8. Sterols

Aloe vera contains four plant sterols:

  • Cholesterol
  • Campesterol
  • Lupeol
  • Sitosterol
Sterols have anti-inflammatory properties. Lupeol also has antiseptic and analgesic effects.



9. Vitamins

From the moment of conception, your body uses vitamins. They are essential for the normal functioning of cells, tissues and organs. We get vitamins from food, with a few exceptions (such as vitamin K and biotin, which are formed in the intestines).

Aloe vera contains the following vitamins:

  • Vitamin A (Beta-Carotene)
  • Vitamin B1 (Thiamine)
  • Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin)
  • Vitamin B3 (Niacin)
  • Vitamin B5
  • Vitamin B6 (Pyridoksin)
  • Vitamin B12
  • Vitamin C
  • Vitamin E
  • Kolin
  • Folate
Vitamins A, C and E have antioxidant properties and neutralize free radicals. Group B vitamins and choline are responsible for the metabolism. Vitamin B12 is responsible for the formation of red blood cells, while folic acid is necessary for proper cell development.



10. Minerals

Minerals are inorganic substances which constitute 4-5% of the human body.

Minerals are necessary for preserving the delicate balance of cellular ionic liquids, building bone tissue and blood cells, the electrochemical activity of nerve cells and the regulation of muscle tone.

Many minerals were found in aloe vera, to name only the top 10:

  • Calcium
  • Chrome
  • Copper
  • Iron
  • Magnesium
  • Manganese
  • Potassium
  • Phosphorus
  • Sodium
  • Zinc


11. Sugars

Aloe vera contains two monosaccharides, glucose and fructose, which have anti-inflammatory effects.

Aloe is also a rich source of polysaccharides. Polysaccharides are found in every cell of our bodies. However, our body ceases to create them after the age of ten. After that, we are completely dependent on external sources of polysaccharides.

From the leaves of aloe vera a special ingredient called acemannan is obtained.

Acemannan deserves special mention. This polysaccharide has antiviral and immune-stimulating properties.

Acemannan plays an important role in the body, stimulating macrophages to produce interferon and interleukin, which stop the growth of viruses.

Macrophages deeply cleanse the body and destroy the smaller particles of toxic metals and cancer. Acemannan also lubricates joints and protects the bowel wall against the "leaky gut" syndrome.
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Do a google search for "Aloe Vera Cannabis" and it will bring up a slew of threads on forums which I am not allowed to link here. It is fool proof to use and probably one of the least complicated things to feed your plants.
 
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Jonjon5555

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waterproof808 said:
We aren't growing herb in the wild, so that point is moot. I'd estimate 95% of the shit people feed MJ is not something that would occur naturally in the wild and besides, top shelf cannabis doesn't grow very by itself without human intervention.
And in fact, it is as easy as smashing a blade of aloe in your watering can and watching as your leaves point upwards to the sun within an hour of watering.

Here is a cut and paste of aloe composition. If you compare this list with what people normally feed MJ, you will see aloe contains many things people give their plants i.e. amino acids, salicylic acid, b vitamins, saponins, auxins, gibberellins, enzymes, etc.



Do a google search for "Aloe Vera Cannabis" and it will bring up a slew of threads on forums which I am not allowed to link here. It is fool proof to use and probably one of the least complicated things to feed your plants.
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And another person comes out of nowhere to defeat the purpose of me ever posting in the first place. My point was not to hate on the use of aloe it was to say that if you follow general rules of growing any plant you won't need it to help some droopy plants spring back up because they won't be droopy from the start. End of story.
 
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waterproof808

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What are the general rules of growing? Did you find them in a Jorge Cervantes book? There's many ways to grow a plant. Try to keep an open mind about it.
 
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zigbred

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TWS said:
H202 kills your soil microbes and does not add a Lick of oxygen to soil. For Petes sake, you use it to kill bacteria and everything else ,kill your microbes too.
Best just piss on your plant.
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lol to that
but in 30 yrs of growing h202 has worked excellent for me in soiless when plants droop. i didnt read it on the net from jorge i did it myself. promix isnt soil its soiless correct? so what does it kill in soiless?
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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zigbred said:
lol to that
but in 30 yrs of growing h202 has worked excellent for me in soiless when plants droop. i didnt read it on the net from jorge i did it myself. promix isnt soil its soiless correct? so what does it kill in soiless?
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Hydrogen peroxide is an antiseptic. Like, you pour it on cuts to clean wounds. Of course it'll kill the microbes (read: bacteria) in your substrate, soil or soilless.
 
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