My Amare & Hydroponics Hut O.C.GG#4 Grow

[Airwalker16]

1 lb of weed will pay for my 3 lights. Now I know nice things aren't for everyone and that's why companies like Eco-motel-led exist. People worrying over 50 bucks and over looking an extra 2 year warranty. When I went looking for lights I knew I wanted cobs. Went to the local advertisers here and caught some serious attitude from one in particular and wasn't really excited with appearance of the others. 4-6 cobs slapped in a generic housing. Granted good equipment but it just seemed like another overnight trying to get rich thing.

With the se-450 you can tell some serious time went into the lights. The boldest warranty and customer service to back it all up. Yes you can veg under cobs at 48+ inches but why not just flip on the monos they don't have? 170 watts of Cree LEDs are worth a hell of a lot to me. No light moving or changing. Just hit them with the monos and when they get big enough flip the cobs. If people don't get this then I must be one messed up individual cause I sure as shit do.

This round I'm under 3 new lights with a grand total that was 500$ less than the kind k5's that burned out after 2 weeks. Not to mention my yield will absolutely double. 3 weeks into flower and I already have more and larger buds then I did in total last run. How can you ask for more?!

I'd buy an Amare if I didn't already have a built diy that's kicking major ass. I wish I could sell my gogreen for an amare.

 

[Big smo]

So your saying on Amare's in veg you only run the mono's and the cobs are off?

Yes but I'm new to the light so I went off of advice. Initially I ran just the monos until the plants were strong enough to handle the intensity of the cobs. I don't think many slam their 2 leaf seedlings under a cob only fixture. Therefore they need another separate light that cost money. After doing the math the Amare just became a little cheaper.

Things haven't been better in my room. It's also a new room I planned off of old growth rates. Currently I have plants all over the place trying to make space. Some in from of the door, 4 in the walking way. It's a mad house!!

 

[OneHitDone]

Yes but I'm new to the light so I went off of advice. Initially I ran just the monos until the plants were strong enough to handle the intensity of the cobs. I don't think many slam their 2 leaf seedlings under a cob only fixture. Therefore they need another separate light that cost money. After doing the math the Amare just became a little cheaper.

Things haven't been better in my room. It's also a new room I planned off of old growth rates. Currently I have plants all over the place trying to make space. Some in from of the door, 4 in the walking way. It's a mad house!!

I was under the impression that cobs are start to finish?

 

[Big smo]

I'd buy an Amare if I didn't already have a built diy that's kicking major ass. I wish I could sell my gogreen for an amare.

I think people should buy into any company they feel comfortable with and should be free to post any feedback without so much negativity recently seen here. Some people will go ape shit for days over 2% efficiency, others will go ape shit cause their boyfriend advertises here. I feel these lights fit me the best. I post so much "I love Amare" spam because I feel these lights/warranty/customer service are worth the money's and fulfill my needs. If there are more efficient lights out there I couldnt care less. They will probably lack somewhere else I'm sure. Soon enough I'll harvest this run and throw my next 30 day old batch under the cobs and do it all over again.

 

[Big smo]

I was under the impression that cobs are start to finish?

I'm sure it would be fine at the right distance. I just chose to do the route that progressively eased the plants along the intensity scale.

 

[Airwalker16]

I think people should buy into any company they feel comfortable with and should be free to post any feedback without so much negativity recently seen here. Some people will go ape shit for days over 2% efficiency, others will go ape shit cause their boyfriend advertises here. I feel these lights fit me the best. I post so much "I love Amare" spam because I feel these lights/warranty/customer service are worth the money's and fulfill my needs. If there are more efficient lights out there I couldnt care less. They will probably lack somewhere else I'm sure. Soon enough I'll harvest this run and throw my next 30 day old batch under the cobs and do it all over again.

I agree, I'm just fed up with gogreen. The lenses are SILICONED on and Mike Brady @GoGreenLEDs told me I could just "take them off" but I cant. I have no use for it anymore and I wish I could get my money back for it. The lenses create hella hot spots and I just don't like it. There are many better options now, months after I bought it.

 

[Big smo]

I agree, I'm just fed up with gogreen. The lenses are SILICONED on and Mike Brady @GoGreenLEDs told me I could just "take them off" but I cant. I have no use for it anymore and I wish I could get my money back for it.

This sucks to hear and I did read where you mentioned this earlier. Most are screwed was his reply? Idk, the Amare have an aluminum threaded ring that threads on to the light which holds the lense.

Not to kick anyone when they are down but this quality is what I gathered when I spoke to victor. There are no shortcuts and no silicone.

 

[Airwalker16]

This sucks to hear and I did read where you mentioned this earlier. Most are screwed was his reply? Idk, the Amare have an aluminum threaded ring that threads on to the light which holds the lense.

Not to kick anyone when they are down but this quality is what I gathered when I spoke to victor. There are no shortcuts and no silicone.

Ya that's correct. I emailed him SECONDS after his reply asking for a solution like maybe sending me a new one with screwed on lenses and I haven't had a reply yet in 4 days. I was a huge advocate for them at first, but not anymore. They are a good price though. The 4 pack deal is almost the price of one amare.

 

[OneHitDone]

This sucks to hear and I did read where you mentioned this earlier. Most are screwed was his reply? Idk, the Amare have an aluminum threaded ring that threads on to the light which holds the lense.

Not to kick anyone when they are down but this quality is what I gathered when I spoke to victor. There are no shortcuts and no silicone.

That is the difference between a purpose build grow light fixture with parts that have actually been designed and manufactured vs some tool in his garage dabbing and screwing cobs onto a heatsink and claiming to have the baddest ass grow lights there ever was

 

[Airwalker16]

That is the difference between a purpose build grow light fixture with parts that have actually been designed and manufactured vs some tool in his garage dabbing and screwing cobs onto a heatsink and claiming to have the baddest ass grow lights there ever was

The @GoGreenLEDs is a decent light no doubt. It yielded some huge buds. But the footprint isn't 4x4 like they claim. No way

 

[Big smo]

The @GoGreenLEDs is a decent light no doubt. It yielded some huge buds. But the footprint isn't 4x4 like they claim. No way

I always like to cut the recommended foot print down by 25-50% I never could wrap my head around friends who grew 1 plant per light till I saw the size difference. Now I just add more lights and more plants.

 

[VegasWinner]

As I posted before:

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This bottom pic displays both in one pic. From the lowest one, being replaced by 2 smallers which are right above it. That way I can fit 2 20amp breakers in one spot rather than using the big fat one for just 1.

That's do-able right?

NO. It is not doable. those "skinny" breakers create a balanced panel. if the panel goes out of balance it will shut down. Those skinny breakers are used to put smaller 15/20 loads to balance that panel so the larger loads do not create an imbalance in loading, based on volts and draw amps. a larger 20 amp breaker is used to absorb the entire 20 amps from the load side to that load. Check the total load on the panel first and determine if the panel can handle additinal loads. Most panels that look like that one are 200 amps total load. older panel it looks like. Newer panels are 400 amps and much larger. You should consult wuith an electrician before you do anything further. I was an electrician many years ago, before I was an engineer. peace

 

[Airwalker16]

NO. It is not doable. those "skinny" breakers create a balanced panel. if the panel goes out of balance it will shut down. Those skinny breakers are used to put smaller 15/20 loads to balance that panel so the larger loads do not create an imbalance in loading, based on volts and draw amps. a larger 20 amp breaker is used to absorb the entire 20 amps from the load side to that load. Check the total load on the panel first and determine if the panel can handle additinal loads. Most panels that look like that one are 200 amps total load. older panel it looks like. Newer panels are 400 amps and much larger. You should consult wuith an electrician before you do anything further. I was an electrician many years ago, before I was an engineer. peace

Amazon sells both ge 20,amp breakers. One thick, one skinny. They have the exact same description and the same exact specs.

 

[rocknratm]

The @GoGreenLEDs is a decent light no doubt. It yielded some huge buds. But the footprint isn't 4x4 like they claim. No way

yeah always need to take what led companies say with a grain of salt.
It could cover a 4x4, but still only two plants really or 4 very small ones. If its two plants, and you raised the light higher, it wouldnt be as intense but it would cover the larger area. And I think each plant would have plenty of lumens to do its thing.
Just my thoughts. Id love to see an led company thats more strait forward about their product tho, as Im sure many people would

 

[VegasWinner]

Yes but I'm new to the light so I went off of advice. Initially I ran just the monos until the plants were strong enough to handle the intensity of the cobs. I don't think many slam their 2 leaf seedlings under a cob only fixture. Therefore they need another separate light that cost money. After doing the math the Amare just became a little cheaper.

Things haven't been better in my room. It's also a new room I planned off of old growth rates. Currently I have plants all over the place trying to make space. Some in from of the door, 4 in the walking way. It's a mad house!!

I use cobs from start to finish. I also have supplemental leds as well Far Red Deep Red IR and Royal Blue. Peace

 

[Hybridway]

I would really rather not talk about this anymore. Everyone knows where I stand. Don't want further problems. My opinion is mine & im entitled to it.
I suggest everyone leave it at that & we will all "Let The Results Speak For Themselves" as Victor has been saying to me for over a year.

 

[OLD MOTHER SATIVA]

its because of the blue font dude..

 

[Airwalker16]

Nvm I understand. You mean the shit you're getting in THAT THREAD.

 

[Hybridway]

What do you mean?

I would really like to dead this topic everyone. Both companies are offering way more & higher standards then what people have been getting for years prior to this from what I gather. We as growers should be grateful to have them both working for us.
I said he stuck up for the shills & Amare haters, As most probobly would have, being beneficial to their comp..... He responded to something as did I & so did the 100 before me leading to this conversation continuing.
We are talking about two companies that offer high-end products that work here & have owners that are willing to help in any way they can.

I did not understand why Amare was under attack when I came here. To me, I saw everything everyone was asking for in a DIY Or production panel. They are innovative & have put in the time & have done the research. Owners a grower too, so he understands our goals. I liked what I saw based on all the information I could learn about LED lighting used to grow. Actually was super impressed once I spoke to them too.
But the longer I was a member here, the more I came to understand why. And the more others tried to make me feel dumb for spending my money there. The more shills or whatever you want to call them said negative stuff to me publicly, the more I responded w/ how I felt openly.
Pretty much everyone knows I don't work for Amare or anything like that as I came here doing a side by side to see if I'd grow with white or Burple & really hadn't a clue except what I read prior about LED. Also, none of this shit was anything to me until i responded with my thoughts & others became sore in the Butt!
Fact remains. Both companies offer allot more then LED ever had before. Both are open from what I see & use quality parts as well as give a shit about us. The rest is for us to decide through information or experience we gather.
I suggest this ends here.

 

[PurpleBuz]

I would really like to dead this topic everyone.
I suggest this ends here.

bygones be bygones.

a good way to end it all is to do a controlled unbiased side by side with an amare and PCL lighting designed to show us how well each grows with the minimum wattage required.