Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!
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WeedFreak78
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Weird issue I can't figure out. When my pumps turn on water gets forced out around the netpots in the rails for the first 15-30 seconds, it's just a trickle, then once water starts draining back to the res it stops. The rails aren't over flowing, if I pick up one net pot in the rail it all stops and the water level isn't anywhere near the top.
Here's what I was initially thinking was happening. Where I have a large root mass that's into the drains (2" dia drain might not be big enough? .to late this run. ..), when the pumps kick on, the water flow is too great for my drain, it gets covered by water and internal rail pressure goes up slightly, maybe a couple psi over atmosphere, just enough to force water out around the netpots, once the water level builds up enough to creat enough flow out the drain, that flow now creates a vacuum in the rails, stopping the leaks. I added some 1/4" air tubing as vents to the rails, but it didn't seem to help much. I'm going to put a vent line in each net pot see if that can balance things out.
I need some ideas. I'm losing quite a bit of nutrient, enough to be throwing my res's out every couple days. I'm ready to flip but not if I can't get this figured out. I'm getting kinda sick of these systems. ..I didn't think it would take over a year to get all the bugs worked out. I just hoping it'll pay off once I get it down. ....
Here's what I was initially thinking was happening. Where I have a large root mass that's into the drains (2" dia drain might not be big enough? .to late this run. ..), when the pumps kick on, the water flow is too great for my drain, it gets covered by water and internal rail pressure goes up slightly, maybe a couple psi over atmosphere, just enough to force water out around the netpots, once the water level builds up enough to creat enough flow out the drain, that flow now creates a vacuum in the rails, stopping the leaks. I added some 1/4" air tubing as vents to the rails, but it didn't seem to help much. I'm going to put a vent line in each net pot see if that can balance things out.
I need some ideas. I'm losing quite a bit of nutrient, enough to be throwing my res's out every couple days. I'm ready to flip but not if I can't get this figured out. I'm getting kinda sick of these systems. ..I didn't think it would take over a year to get all the bugs worked out. I just hoping it'll pay off once I get it down. ....
WeedFreak78
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Figured it out. ..turned the spray rails so the sprayers weren't aimed at the netpots...duh. 
I way over think stuff.
I way over think stuff.
StinkBud
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Aeroponics can be hard bro! If everything is perfects it's amazing but if one little thing goes wrong, it sucks.Figured it out. ..turned the spray rails so the sprayers weren't aimed at the netpots...duh.
StinkBud
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I personally believe live rosin is the best although I have had some amazing BHO. We had some BHO at the shop called "The Clear" It was 82% THC, very expensive and completely clear with just a hint of amber. It tasted just like an orange Jolly Rancher candy and burned away completely clean with no residue. Out of all the concentrates we sold The Clear was in another league than the rest.
I rarely hit the concentrates anymore. I'm all about the flower. Same thing with edibles. I have 4 huge candy bars and 20 cookies that I have yet to touch. It's always the same thing. I'll try something new but then I always go back to old-school flower.
StinkBud
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What's up guys! Everything has been going great! I have a small jar of pollen from the most amazing Girl Scout Cookies. The GSC has that classic chocolate flavor with just a hint of mint. The buds are super dense with very little trimming needed. The bud formation looks a lot like the Pre-98 Bubba Kush but with an even more intense flavor.
The Pineapple Express is unbelievably mind expanding! Every time I smoke that shit I start thinking about things like time and space. When did time start, when does time end? How far does space go? Shit like that...
The Agent Orange is loud as fuck! Super intense flavor! I'm really liking the pure Sativas during the day.
So I have the honest to god, real deal, Pre-98 Bubba Kush. I never thought I'd taste anything as good as the OG Kush SFV cutting but I have to say the Bubba is right there. It tastes very similar with the classic coffee/chocolate taste but it has a little more of a sweeter finish than the OG. The nice thing about the Bubba Kush is it's easy to grow. It clones easy and grows very fast with huge leaves. It stays low and doesn't run like a Sativa. It looks to be about a 75% Indica mix. The Bubba is the meat-and-potatoes of bud. The high will stick with you for most of the day, just like a good home cooked meal...
The Grape Ape is by far the best purple/grape strain I've ever seen. It's even better than the Purple-Silver I used to grow. It grows fast and has the most amazing flavor. I'm very excited about mixing this with the GSC! If I comes out the way I hope it does it will have a sort of chocolate/grape sort of taste with a nice balanced high. The heavy Indica of the Grape Ape will work will with the Sativa dominate GSC.
I just read that Blue Dream is the most popular strain in Colorado, Washington and Oregon. That doesn't surprise me at it's made up of two of the top ten strains. I don't think anyone would debate the historical influence of both Blueberry and Haze. The "clone-only" strain is the one you want. It has huge, Sativa like leaves but actually finishes up fairly fast. I'm curious to see what comes out when I mix this with the GSC. Basically it will be OG Kush, Durban Poison, Blueberry and Haze mix. These are four of my favorite strains!
The Pineapple Express is unbelievably mind expanding! Every time I smoke that shit I start thinking about things like time and space. When did time start, when does time end? How far does space go? Shit like that...
The Agent Orange is loud as fuck! Super intense flavor! I'm really liking the pure Sativas during the day.
So I have the honest to god, real deal, Pre-98 Bubba Kush. I never thought I'd taste anything as good as the OG Kush SFV cutting but I have to say the Bubba is right there. It tastes very similar with the classic coffee/chocolate taste but it has a little more of a sweeter finish than the OG. The nice thing about the Bubba Kush is it's easy to grow. It clones easy and grows very fast with huge leaves. It stays low and doesn't run like a Sativa. It looks to be about a 75% Indica mix. The Bubba is the meat-and-potatoes of bud. The high will stick with you for most of the day, just like a good home cooked meal...
The Grape Ape is by far the best purple/grape strain I've ever seen. It's even better than the Purple-Silver I used to grow. It grows fast and has the most amazing flavor. I'm very excited about mixing this with the GSC! If I comes out the way I hope it does it will have a sort of chocolate/grape sort of taste with a nice balanced high. The heavy Indica of the Grape Ape will work will with the Sativa dominate GSC.
I just read that Blue Dream is the most popular strain in Colorado, Washington and Oregon. That doesn't surprise me at it's made up of two of the top ten strains. I don't think anyone would debate the historical influence of both Blueberry and Haze. The "clone-only" strain is the one you want. It has huge, Sativa like leaves but actually finishes up fairly fast. I'm curious to see what comes out when I mix this with the GSC. Basically it will be OG Kush, Durban Poison, Blueberry and Haze mix. These are four of my favorite strains!
StinkBud
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The Problem with Kush Strains...
The problem with the OG Kush, Headband, Fire OG and other "Kush" like strains is they are suicidal! They want to die! I don't know what it is but when all the other kids in the room are playing and having fun, the fucking Kush strains have to act like little bitches!. WTF! The other strains will be healthy and green with just the Cal/Mag from the soil but not the Kush strains. They demand more Cal/Mag and if you don't give it to them they commit suicide. Your only option is to bow down to their demands and give them the extra Cal/Mag. But enough is enough. It's time for a change!
To put it bluntly...who's the fucking human and who's the fucking plant. I think it's time for us humans to bond together to repel the tyranny of the Kush plants! Why should all these fucking Kush strains get more Cal/Mag than the rest of the strains! What makes them so special!? Why should just 1% of the plants get 200% of the Cal/Mag? I don't know, it just doesn't seem fair to me. I think we should rise up against the Kush plants and take away their Cal/Mag and divide it up among the other 99% of the plants. The Kush strains shouldn't get special treatment over any other strain. Who cares if all the Kush plants die, fuck Kush...what's more important is that all the plants get the exact same amount of nutrients.
Now I admit that all the best strains are Kush and that's all anyone around here wants to smoke but that's besides the point. What's more important is equality and it's time for us to think about equality among plants. Next time you fertilize your plants, ask yourself, are you being PC (Plant Correct)? Remember, all plants should be treated equally!
Thank you...
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OGMMJ
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Hey fellars, ladies and stinky! Sorry been away much longer then I wanted, work work work and trying to get out and live as much as possible, kayaking, canoeing camping before its sweltering outside. 
Things have been getting smoother around here, I bit the bullet and tried pool shock in my cloner/seedling cooler system because I couldn't stop my seedlings from rotting in it with the higher temps, tried just RO, RO+tap water, plain tap water, gallons of spring water, tried all those with the addition of hydroguard and also with the addition of hydroguard and pondzyme. Unfortunately none of the mixtures did it any justice compared to the tiny amount of super diluted pool shock, basically mixing .10g into 10 gallons ONCE, at the beginning of the water change (actually been adding 5 gallons, dumping in my .10 hth shock and adding the other 5 gallons) I have to say I hate the thought of it and I hate Chems in general, don't take medicine never used in soil, generally hate the thought, butttt I do own a rather large in ground pool and it has been driving me nuts dealing with these rot issues in a simple 10 gallon cooler, when I can keep a ~30,000 gallon pool algae and slime free 365 days a year and it's been the same water for like 2 years lol....
So with that said for the people having issues like I was, if possible and your not helping out medically yet I reccomend trying it ONLY if you have tried all the natural routes and if your not supplying dispensaries. But for me personally I'm only using it in the cloner and the rest of their life they will be more organic with bennies and such, so anyway so far so good with my rot problems..
Heat... Heat, heat heat, never ends
Now that we are starting to crank into full summer I'm really starting to deal with the headache from what the budding room temps are going to be, so far I can still achieve my "nighttime" temps (which is during the day) to get down to 66ish but these warm nights with my lights even with the ac in the area I'm hitting 80-84 degrees, my test water Rez still hangs under 72 most of the time, 90% of the time 66-68, have seen it as high as 74 on the hottest day.
All these issues and extra power really has me considering filling my budding room up with t5s or LEDs in the future. But for now I might just still not run it in the dog days. Might have to just see what my 500watt CFL tent (veg clone tent) can do if I put some 2700k lamps in the fixtures...lol
Been running my older vegging plants around 1.0 EC (500ppm) and letting the water rise from roughly 5.9-6.5 over a week period then change.
Things have been getting smoother around here, I bit the bullet and tried pool shock in my cloner/seedling cooler system because I couldn't stop my seedlings from rotting in it with the higher temps, tried just RO, RO+tap water, plain tap water, gallons of spring water, tried all those with the addition of hydroguard and also with the addition of hydroguard and pondzyme. Unfortunately none of the mixtures did it any justice compared to the tiny amount of super diluted pool shock, basically mixing .10g into 10 gallons ONCE, at the beginning of the water change (actually been adding 5 gallons, dumping in my .10 hth shock and adding the other 5 gallons) I have to say I hate the thought of it and I hate Chems in general, don't take medicine never used in soil, generally hate the thought, butttt I do own a rather large in ground pool and it has been driving me nuts dealing with these rot issues in a simple 10 gallon cooler, when I can keep a ~30,000 gallon pool algae and slime free 365 days a year and it's been the same water for like 2 years lol....
So with that said for the people having issues like I was, if possible and your not helping out medically yet I reccomend trying it ONLY if you have tried all the natural routes and if your not supplying dispensaries. But for me personally I'm only using it in the cloner and the rest of their life they will be more organic with bennies and such, so anyway so far so good with my rot problems..
Heat... Heat, heat heat, never ends
Now that we are starting to crank into full summer I'm really starting to deal with the headache from what the budding room temps are going to be, so far I can still achieve my "nighttime" temps (which is during the day) to get down to 66ish but these warm nights with my lights even with the ac in the area I'm hitting 80-84 degrees, my test water Rez still hangs under 72 most of the time, 90% of the time 66-68, have seen it as high as 74 on the hottest day.
All these issues and extra power really has me considering filling my budding room up with t5s or LEDs in the future. But for now I might just still not run it in the dog days. Might have to just see what my 500watt CFL tent (veg clone tent) can do if I put some 2700k lamps in the fixtures...lol
Been running my older vegging plants around 1.0 EC (500ppm) and letting the water rise from roughly 5.9-6.5 over a week period then change.
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OGMMJ
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Stinkbud, man your lineup still is a 5 star menu, can't wait until after this summer I should have much more established systems and will have broken into my genetics stash, have gsc from Cali connection, cookies kush from barneys, Pineapple Express from g13 along with their #2 version, tons more just can't think right now oh yeah got Akorn from when I was reading the beginning years of this thread 
think I have 5 f those!
There's one in there I'm super excited for and its
Chicle maybe also know as bubbledawg
Pretty sure it was a mix between chemdawg which I've always loved and bubblegum. It's from T.H seeds super pumped for that one.
think I have 5 f those!There's one in there I'm super excited for and its
Chicle maybe also know as bubbledawg
Pretty sure it was a mix between chemdawg which I've always loved and bubblegum. It's from T.H seeds super pumped for that one.
sky rocket
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Good luck with feminized Cali connections gsc. I would watch them closely when you flower them because they shoot out balls. I know this from personal experience.Stinkbud, man your lineup still is a 5 star menu, can't wait until after this summer I should have much more established systems and will have broken into my genetics stash, have gsc from Cali connection, cookies kush from barneys, Pineapple Express from g13 along with their #2 version, tons more just can't think right now oh yeah got Akorn from when I was reading the beginning years of this thread
There's one in there I'm super excited for and its
Chicle maybe also know as bubbledawg
Pretty sure it was a mix between chemdawg which I've always loved and bubblegum. It's from T.H seeds super pumped for that one.
OGMMJ
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noted. Excited for cookies kush almost more then gsc
shinedog55
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This is perhaps one of the greatest threads I've ever read. I'll admit I haven't made it through the entire thread, but honestly I've learned a lot already and I'm ready to get started.
That being said I could really use some help. I hope this post isn't too long and some of you fine people can lend some advice. I've grown in the past, but due to different circumstances in life I had to give it up for several years. My last grow was soil and I tried bubbler buckets with no luck. I think it was primarily a heat issue. I had 100% success with a cloning system almost exactly like what Stink has outlined so I have complete faith the rest of the setup will work. I am definitely in the planning phase of my setup, but I need some direction.
The Current Situtation
I have a building on my property that's about 300 feet from the main house. It's well secluded and away from my neighbors with lots of mature trees basically hiding the building. It has power and access to water. I have about 11' x 13' to work with inside the building. It is larger, but I'm keeping the grow toward the back of the building to make it even more obscure. My primary concern is with the power. I'm not sure how old the building is. The home itself was built in the 50's but I imagine the building is a little newer. My biggest issue I think is with power. I have a fuse box in the building, not a breaker box which concerns me. From what I can tell I have a 30 amp double poled fuse running 220v and a single poled 20 amp fuse running 110v. What I'm uncertain of is if the power is actually running from the main breaker box in the house or if it's running from the main line. I plan on investigating this more over the weekend. I want to get an electrician in before I really put anything in place to verify exactly what's going on. My fear is I'm going to be restricted to running what's presently in place at least in terms of power. I want to get rid of the fuse box and put a new breaker box in place. However, I think pulling a new line from the house through the conduit that is probably 30+ years old is going to be way too difficult and that running new conduit and a new line through the now mature trees and existing concrete sidewalk will be too cost prohibitive.
I'd like to run three flower units that are modified slightly to fit within the 13' width restriction I'm dealing with. Only so I can run an exhaust fan for the lights in a straight line. In one side out the other. I will definitely need to use an air conditioner. I'm in the southern U.S. and this weekend the temp was 80 with 50% humidity in the building. This is before lights are in place. So keeping the temps down with lights running will require A/C. There is an air conditioner in the building presently that uses one of the 220v plugs, but I don't actually think it works.
My question is under the current power setup will I even be able to pull this off? I figured I could run a new A/C unit that runs on 110v and save the 220v for my lights. I'd like to run 3 600w HPS lights in flower and then I'm open to suggestions for veg and clone. I know the pumps, timers, fans, CO2, possible environmental controls, etc. are all going to require power as well. I'm just trying to figure out what's actually possible in this space.
I'm open to any and all suggestions and comments. Thanks for all of the great info to this point.I'm headed back to page 300 now to continue reading.
That being said I could really use some help. I hope this post isn't too long and some of you fine people can lend some advice. I've grown in the past, but due to different circumstances in life I had to give it up for several years. My last grow was soil and I tried bubbler buckets with no luck. I think it was primarily a heat issue. I had 100% success with a cloning system almost exactly like what Stink has outlined so I have complete faith the rest of the setup will work. I am definitely in the planning phase of my setup, but I need some direction.
The Current Situtation
I have a building on my property that's about 300 feet from the main house. It's well secluded and away from my neighbors with lots of mature trees basically hiding the building. It has power and access to water. I have about 11' x 13' to work with inside the building. It is larger, but I'm keeping the grow toward the back of the building to make it even more obscure. My primary concern is with the power. I'm not sure how old the building is. The home itself was built in the 50's but I imagine the building is a little newer. My biggest issue I think is with power. I have a fuse box in the building, not a breaker box which concerns me. From what I can tell I have a 30 amp double poled fuse running 220v and a single poled 20 amp fuse running 110v. What I'm uncertain of is if the power is actually running from the main breaker box in the house or if it's running from the main line. I plan on investigating this more over the weekend. I want to get an electrician in before I really put anything in place to verify exactly what's going on. My fear is I'm going to be restricted to running what's presently in place at least in terms of power. I want to get rid of the fuse box and put a new breaker box in place. However, I think pulling a new line from the house through the conduit that is probably 30+ years old is going to be way too difficult and that running new conduit and a new line through the now mature trees and existing concrete sidewalk will be too cost prohibitive.
I'd like to run three flower units that are modified slightly to fit within the 13' width restriction I'm dealing with. Only so I can run an exhaust fan for the lights in a straight line. In one side out the other. I will definitely need to use an air conditioner. I'm in the southern U.S. and this weekend the temp was 80 with 50% humidity in the building. This is before lights are in place. So keeping the temps down with lights running will require A/C. There is an air conditioner in the building presently that uses one of the 220v plugs, but I don't actually think it works.
My question is under the current power setup will I even be able to pull this off? I figured I could run a new A/C unit that runs on 110v and save the 220v for my lights. I'd like to run 3 600w HPS lights in flower and then I'm open to suggestions for veg and clone. I know the pumps, timers, fans, CO2, possible environmental controls, etc. are all going to require power as well. I'm just trying to figure out what's actually possible in this space.
I'm open to any and all suggestions and comments. Thanks for all of the great info to this point.I'm headed back to page 300 now to continue reading.
joey green
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ill start off by saying im no expert, i really jus got going this year, and still have issues left right and center, but.. if your main concerns are heat and the amount of power your pulling i would say check out a guy on here called growmau5 he has an LED kit that seems to be a legit replacement for HPS, creates less heat and pulls waay less power, i'm hoping to slowly switch over to his lights in a few months. http://www.cutter.com.au/products.php?cat=Grow+Light+Kits&pg=2 he has a youtube channel with videos on how to assemble. jus my 2 cents if i was starting up...
joey green
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speaking of issues... anyone have a good solution for stopping the stank from coming out of a portable ac?
right now i got a cool humidifier with ona gel and water blowing into the room i put that beside the ac, i added a duct to the end of the exhaust at the window and put some carbon filter sheets which worked but not for longer then one day, i believe due to the hot air..
right now i got a cool humidifier with ona gel and water blowing into the room i put that beside the ac, i added a duct to the end of the exhaust at the window and put some carbon filter sheets which worked but not for longer then one day, i believe due to the hot air..
sky rocket
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Started these girls out from seed and transferred them to the stink cloner. Started them out with a very light feed of ppm's at 113 using canna nutes. I don't run 1000's just 600's but I still run a perpetual cycle in canna coco. 
RolllingStone
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How you harvest every 3 weeks isnt it every 3 months or 2 month ? I just dont get it 3 weeks really ???!?!?
RolllingStone
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Are those sprays running 24/7??
sky rocket
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No 1 minute on 4 minutes off cycle timer
RolllingStone
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Dayum those timer expensive how long you keep them in the cloner for then you move it to veg