USA move closer to equality in wages

[Rob Roy]

Automation is inevitable whether the wage is $15/hour or $7.25/hour. Technology will advance even if wages don't, so eventually it'll be cheaper to replace every single minimum wage worker regardless of how much they make. People like you can either get on board with a universal basic income or you can roll the dice and try your best to protect your property from the waves of unemployed hungry people that will be trying to take it.

If you mow the lawn and pick up your room, we'll talk about increasing your allowance - mom

 

[nitro harley]

You do realize that while you are talking about being hungry and stealing from people, the other side is fortifying their properties and working with others in their community to stop this exact scenario, right?

Most of them will consume themselves and each other before they leave the pavement.

Both sides are wasting their time though. This will never go down and people will just get back in line like they always do.

Man, the left is really starting to show their violent side. I learned how fast things can go to shit after Katrina hit New Orleans. In one day the cops left their post to protect their families and anarchy and mayhem was county wide. I stocked up big time after that wake up call. Thats back when Buck was living about three hours from my house so I pick up a little extra for the city dwellers. nitro

 

[StonyLaRoux]

Automation is inevitable whether the wage is $15/hour or $7.25/hour. Technology will advance even if wages don't, so eventually it'll be cheaper to replace every single minimum wage worker regardless of how much they make. People like you can either get on board with a universal basic income or you can roll the dice and try your best to protect your property from the waves of unemployed hungry people that will be trying to take it.

First, you will have to posses a skill to have a job that a robot can't do. There is already competition for good jobs.
The difference between people is the language of money. You can either lean to speak the language or just occupy spaces. Those who have taken the time to lean are referred to as "upward" mobile. They will earn more because they have made themselves more marketable; that means employers want them.

 

[Padawanbater2]

First, you will have to posses a skill to have a job that a robot can't do. There is already competition for good jobs.
The difference between people is the language of money. You can either lean to speak the language or just occupy spaces. Those who have taken the time to lean are referred to as "upward" mobile. They will earn more because they have made themselves more marketable; that means employers want them.

Minimum wage jobs will always exist, anyone that works full time should be paid a living wage regardless of the work they do

This isn't a revolutionary concept, it's common sense and it benefits the economy

 

[nitro harley]

Minimum wage jobs will always exist, anyone that works full time should be paid a living wage regardless of the work they do

This isn't a revolutionary concept, it's common sense and it benefits the economy

Have you ran that by your friend @londonfog ? I believe he said that he pays his best workers 15.00 ph, maybe less. And the rest make much less. You better check with him to see if it would bankrupt him. I have never hired anybody at anything close to min wage before so, run it by your friend because I am interested in how he will guide you. nitro

 

[UncleBuck]

Man, the left is really starting to show their violent side.

 

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[Rob Roy]

Minimum wage jobs will always exist, anyone that works full time should be paid a living wage regardless of the work they do

This isn't a revolutionary concept, it's common sense and it benefits the economy

Common sense?

Okay, then please answer my questions high lighted in this post.

Here's a hypothetical scenario which challenges your "revolutionary concept" of third party interventions in other peoples business as being acceptable business practice...

What if a person makes an agreement with another person to do something and their payment is based on the accomplishment of the task rather than a set time frame, but the person making the bid wasn't as competent as they thought they might be and it takes them much longer than they originally thought, should they be able to demand more money?

Let's say @UncleBuck agrees to sanitize all the Wendy's bathrooms in a 500 mile radius for a given amount of money, say $25,000, but the task takes him much longer and his helpers are reluctant to get out of bed and do any work, (he foolishly paid them in advance) and by the time he's gone thru $25,000 in project related expenses he's only half done with the project.

He'll then need to hire some competent workers and of course they'll need some money, and because he's such an honorable man, Uncle Buck realizes for the next several weeks he'll have to work much longer hours himself just to complete the job.

By the end of it, because of poor planning and a host of other overruns, Uncle Buck only completes 2/3rds of the job and it took him so much longer than he originally thought that his hourly rate, for the time he did show up, only came to $6.49 .

Does somebody "owe" him some MORE money so that the amount of time he did work (or claimed to) comes out to at least $15 per hour?



Bonus question
Further, there is a mysterious outbreak of cholera at the bathrooms he DID manage to get to, and signs point to vandalization by a fecal bandit as being the cause. Who should pay to compensate the infected people?

 

[spandy]

Wow, entire crowds attacking individuals for supporting a candidate.

Who the fuck are they kidding? None of this garbage is going to change a Trump supporters opinion. If anything, its going to get more voters to the ballots come November in favor of Trump just to spite these people.

Fuck em, I hope Trump really does put them to work. They obviously have nothing better to do.

 

[Rrog]

Trump really brings out the best in all of us, doesn't he?

 

[ttystikk]

Trump really brings out the best in all of us, doesn't he?

Wouldn't it be great to have this for 4 or 8 years?

 

[spandy]

Trump really brings out the best in all of us, doesn't he?

Exposed who the douche bags are thats for sure. Dont like him, dont vote for him. That simple, dont need to be some loser attacking peaceful people.

 

[bluntmassa1]

I charge $250 per cord of wood and it's almost all labor I won't be able to keep people happy working a wood pile for $10 an hour. So an extra $5 an hour to do mindless work OK but you will get that at Walmart and not break a sweat so what I need to double the price? $500 per cord? Won't that lay that business to rest when it is cheaper to heat with oil for the 2 years after until inflation and prices make it so it's like the minimum wage bullshit never happened and we pay double for oil and electricity.

Meanwhile the electricity rate has gone up even though we now have electronic meters so the power company does not need to hire a meter maid.

This is going to cost a lot of jobs will make my mortgage more affordable but I won't be able to sell wood for a couple years thankfully I got a few hustles just if I can't hire well these people I previously employed are going to be homeless none can pass a piss test.

 

[Rrog]

I'd be embarrassed to travel internationally. What a global embarrassment we are. Jesus H Christ

 

[ttystikk]

I charge $250 per cord of wood and it's almost all labor I won't be able to keep people happy working a wood pile for $10 an hour. So an extra $5 an hour to do mindless work OK but you will get that at Walmart and not break a sweat so what I need to double the price? $500 per cord? Won't that lay that business to rest when it is cheaper to heat with oil for the 2 years after until inflation and prices make it so it's like the minimum wage bullshit never happened and we pay double for oil and electricity.

Meanwhile the electricity rate has gone up even though we now have electronic meters so the power company does not need to hire a meter maid.

This is going to cost a lot of jobs will make my mortgage more affordable but I won't be able to sell wood for a couple years thankfully I got a few hustles just if I can't hire well these people I previously employed are going to be homeless none can pass a piss test.

If ALL jobs were minimum wage your cost scenario might make sense- but when labor costs are less than ten percent of overall costs even at fast food joints and Walmart it doesn't even make sense then.

 

[bluntmassa1]

If ALL jobs were minimum wage your cost scenario might make sense- but when labor costs are less than ten percent of overall costs even at fast food joints and Walmart it doesn't even make sense then.

Yeah, Walmart and McDonald's can afford that increase. But how many mom and pops businesses can? Not many unless we raise our prices.

 

[bluntmassa1]

If ALL jobs were minimum wage your cost scenario might make sense- but when labor costs are less than ten percent of overall costs even at fast food joints and Walmart it doesn't even make sense then.

Are you for a world of nothing but Walmart, Home Depot and McDonald's? I sure as shit ain't but those are the only ones who can afford this increase.

 

[Rrog]

There is no drought

 

[GardenGnome83]

That poll is funny. The only thing that drives up cost, is greed. Not wages rising.
The ultra rich want you to think that everything is going to cost more if they have to pay people more. Not true.
They are playing our fears. The Clintons and trumps of the world want nothing more than for us to fight amongst ourselves about A FEW DOLLARS, while they count their money.
Are we for the people, or for the dollar???