ky man

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I wish more growers would grow reg seeds, don't have to be a breeder... I am just thinking long term, I am worried about the long term effects or risk of growing strictly feminized seeds. I think it really reduce or simplify the gene pool, fem seeds are essentially nearly clones of the moms, think about the banana trees!!! Anyway I really wish more people were growing reg seeds, only in the 5 years I have been growing I have seen a crazy increase in fem seeds, I'm worried reg seeds will be hard to find in 10 years ... Anyway thanks to breeders like tga and bodhi for creating strictly reg seeds. Prepare for the future folks and grow them regs, make seeds.
you say thanks to tga he has the worst beans on the market and he sure as hell is no breader..ky
 

ky man

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What's your guys take on twins and mutants? Damn I got lots of twins and mutants in my Sweet Skunk/Blueberry x C99 that I chucked. Germed 18 seeds. Got 3 sets of twins. 1 conjoined twin. and 2 fugly ass mutants with fucked up leaves that were like half variegated. Not good.


I'm thinking this might end up being birdseed haha. Culled a couple but got a bunch in flower as a test anyways.
I would culle them all and start over with beater beans..jmo
 

torontoke

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I would culle them all and start over with beater beans..jmo
2 plants from one seed is not a sign of inferior genetics. It's an anomaly that can happen in the most expensive genetics.
This thread is for people that enjoy mixing up the gene pool and sharing experiences. I think the cross @D_Urbmon made sounds good and I would never toss the whole batch because a few are iffy.
There's just as much chance that the rest are str8 fire as twins or mutants.
Only one way to find out
 

GreenSanta

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you say thanks to tga he has the worst beans on the market and he sure as hell is no breader..ky
I suppose it's your opinion, probably depending on what you have grown from them. Everything I grew from them was exceptionally flavorful, except pennywise, but I had one testing at 1:1 THC CBD ratio according to my testing (with chromatography gas) so I was happy with that. I agree some of their stuff was never ready for market (like Agent Orange, nearly every female I grew had nanners at some point) but some other stuff, like SpaceBomb, though incredibly low yielder, is probably the best weed I have ever smoked. Makes killer hash too. I have a few seeds on the go I reordered spacebomb recently, I will most definitely make seeds with the best female, maybe use a male...
 

ky man

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I am glad you had good luck with tga beans,but I have tried to grow his beans 3 different years and most all had to be trashed..there is just a lot beater beans to be had for me to waist my time any moor on his beans,if he gets a good breader to bread his stuff I mite try it again in a few years,but I heard he has a new person doing his breading now and things mite change for the beater.but if I was breading beans to sell I would not use his gears name to sell my beans.ky.
 

Vnsmkr

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^Same here. I never had anything I would consider a dud. Something to keep in mind, Subcool is just a face, the breeders which have worked for him have made some fire (re: Homegrown Natural Wonders & Jinx). I Always get unreal flavors so have used 2 of them (Dr Who, Conspiracy Kush) in pollen chucks. They havent disappointed yet
 

ff420

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I suppose it's your opinion, probably depending on what you have grown from them. Everything I grew from them was exceptionally flavorful, except pennywise, but I had one testing at 1:1 THC CBD ratio according to my testing (with chromatography gas) so I was happy with that. I agree some of their stuff was never ready for market (like Agent Orange, nearly every female I grew had nanners at some point) but some other stuff, like SpaceBomb, though incredibly low yielder, is probably the best weed I have ever smoked. Makes killer hash too. I have a few seeds on the go I reordered spacebomb recently, I will most definitely make seeds with the best female, maybe use a male...
TGA are pollen chuckers. Nothing wrong with pollen chuckers, I do it myself, but they are not breeders.
 

torontoke

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I'm not a tga fan either but there are a few exceptions imo
A few of their strains are worth holding onto and doing some chucking. Jtr is awesome breeding stock and I've recently used Chernobyl pollen to hit a few ladies.
Those beans will be germinated soon and I'm hoping for some nice crosses
 

GreenSanta

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I did a poor job at taking pictures tonight, anyway, the first 2 pics the buds looks so dense in resin, I do have a bit of spider mites on her but so close to harvest I think I am gonna be ok, I ll wash the buds with water.

Blue City Diesel X ( Pennywise X Senora Ampero )

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This one is a spacebomb from a batch of seeds I made years ago using a random male and a random female, ended up with an even lower yielding variety than spacebomb ... anyway thats why I reordered from the breeder. But as you can see looking at the fan leaves its a great strain for hash, not like I did a great job at growing this plant this time, the tent was a bit of a rushed grow anyway...

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That one is an older pollen chuck, I called it banana coffee and every female I grew so far smelled like, well, banana and coffee lol but so far she is the only one with no nanners, I think she will get them any day so thats the end of it for this strain. Interesting fact is that she has Dr. Grinspoon in the lineage and I gotta say its a potent potent quick flowering sativa, might have spacebomb somewhere in there, those seeds were old from when I started...
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Thats what her sister looked like dry, looks like garbage, but its killer weed!!!
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Vnsmkr

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I'm not a tga fan either but there are a few exceptions imo
A few of their strains are worth holding onto and doing some chucking. Jtr is awesome breeding stock and I've recently used Chernobyl pollen to hit a few ladies.
Those beans will be germinated soon and I'm hoping for some nice crosses
Yip Chernobyl, Dr Who, Quantum Kush, & Conspiracy Kush are worthy for chucks here
 

ky man

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I did a poor job at taking pictures tonight, anyway, the first 2 pics the buds looks so dense in resin, I do have a bit of spider mites on her but so close to harvest I think I am gonna be ok, I ll wash the buds with water.

Blue City Diesel X ( Pennywise X Senora Ampero )

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This one is a spacebomb from a batch of seeds I made years ago using a random male and a random female, ended up with an even lower yielding variety than spacebomb ... anyway thats why I reordered from the breeder. But as you can see looking at the fan leaves its a great strain for hash, not like I did a great job at growing this plant this time, the tent was a bit of a rushed grow anyway...

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That one is an older pollen chuck, I called it banana coffee and every female I grew so far smelled like, well, banana and coffee lol but so far she is the only one with no nanners, I think she will get them any day so thats the end of it for this strain. Interesting fact is that she has Dr. Grinspoon in the lineage and I gotta say its a potent potent quick flowering sativa, might have spacebomb somewhere in there, those seeds were old from when I started...
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Thats what her sister looked like dry, looks like garbage, but its killer weed!!!
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hell don't worie about the mites they smoke to and can get ya high.lol why I say that is I had a plant get full of mites rite at harvest time 2-3 years ago and that was the best of them beans that year. and it all got smoked by me and friends LOL.ky
 

D_Urbmon

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I would culle them all and start over with beater beans..jmo
I culled a couple mutants but the rest are growing strong and healthy so no reason to cull them at this point.

Not trying to breed or anything this was just a random chuck. :) but if they turn out poopy then I'll feed the remainder to the birds. :) or myself haha.

Really just wondering if people consider the twin thing good or bad or doesn't matter.

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torontoke

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I culled a couple mutants but the rest are growing strong and healthy so no reason to cull them at this point.


Really just wondering if people consider the twin thing good or bad or doesn't matter.
I've had it happen with many different strains over the years.
Everyone used to say it was a result of a fem or herm gene being more prominent in that specific bean but I could never find definitive scientific data either way.
It happens in the so called stable lines as well. It's just rare.
Pop another batch and see if you get any more
 

D_Urbmon

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I've had it happen with many different strains over the years.
Everyone used to say it was a result of a fem or herm gene being more prominent in that specific bean but I could never find definitive scientific data either way.
It happens in the so called stable lines as well. It's just rare.
Pop another batch and see if you get any more
I popped 12 Des*Tar x C99 that I made from the same pollen and no twins. FWIW.

Maybe it's just the result of combination of funky genetics from both the C99 and Blueberry.
 

greencropper

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I suppose it's your opinion, probably depending on what you have grown from them. Everything I grew from them was exceptionally flavorful, except pennywise, but I had one testing at 1:1 THC CBD ratio according to my testing (with chromatography gas) so I was happy with that. I agree some of their stuff was never ready for market (like Agent Orange, nearly every female I grew had nanners at some point) but some other stuff, like SpaceBomb, though incredibly low yielder, is probably the best weed I have ever smoked. Makes killer hash too. I have a few seeds on the go I reordered spacebomb recently, I will most definitely make seeds with the best female, maybe use a male...
& simply throw some Romulan & C99 together & you have space queen too...on the list of crosses to do at a later date!
 

Vnsmkr

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Ive had a few Dr Who twins and some Rainbow Jones twins, 2 of each, and each time (in my experience), there ended up being a dominant plant so I killed 1 off. I could have fucked around with separating them and likely both would have lived but didnt want to mess with it. I wouldnt cull them either, could have something special in there
 

Phatlewtz

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I culled a couple mutants but the rest are growing strong and healthy so no reason to cull them at this point.

Not trying to breed or anything this was just a random chuck. :) but if they turn out poopy then I'll feed the remainder to the birds. :) or myself haha.

Really just wondering if people consider the twin thing good or bad or doesn't matter.

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I usually end up with an "Arnold" twin and the other ends up being a Danny Devito..never had both be terrible that I can recall, but I do prefer my twins to have long legs and blonde hair...:)
 

GroErr

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I culled a couple mutants but the rest are growing strong and healthy so no reason to cull them at this point.

Not trying to breed or anything this was just a random chuck. :) but if they turn out poopy then I'll feed the remainder to the birds. :) or myself haha.

Really just wondering if people consider the twin thing good or bad or doesn't matter.

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Looking good, I'd run that twin, last one I got ended up being a massive and stinky Blueberry male that kicked off my Blue Ripper cross (JTR x Blueberry). Haven't seen any more twins in the F1's or F2's and no nanners in any of the offspring. I like mutants myself, could end up with a THC mutant in the 30%'s ;)
 
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