shorelineOG
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The purple katsu cut smells like ammonia. The green frosted out bubba from Cali smells like coffee. I have grown them both, side by side.
Clone only strains
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shorelineOG
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Shoreline OG. Looks like an early nineties Skunk. Also like chem 91.
shorelineOG
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Alien Master X Shoreline OG.
Velvet Elvis
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akhyim james im not gonna even dare challenge your research. youre an animal.
whatever you decide is what I will believe. let me know
whatever you decide is what I will believe. let me know
akhiymjames
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Naw bro you good. I don't know what the hell to believe lol I've come across so much info on this Bubba Kush it's crazy. Here is a post from Nspecta breeder from CSI Humboldt
Afgan King
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The bubba cut that Matt had found was in 91 same with the og
akhiymjames
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Yea but what he's saying is that Matt said Bubba Kush was fed created till 96 when the hermie OG hit the Bubba. Orgnkid and his buddy he got the cut from say they been growing Bubba Kush since 92 before Matt said it was created. Lol bro this shit can go on forever really lol here's some info from over ICmag
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=73054
Long thread with lots of info pics and all.
shorelineOG
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A million strains out there and pre 98 bubba, sour d, and shoreline are still my favorite, still the best.
Odin*
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Finally, Sasquatch is here to set things straight... or is that Yeti? I can't tell them apart.
From what I remember... For years everyone was big on "Bubba", or "Bubba Kush", but they were one and the same. The "kush" was just added on to denote "Dankness", not that there was any "Kush" (referring to "OG Kush") in it. Same as "OG" and "OG Kush". When people say "OG" or "OG Kush" they're talking about the same thing, it's one and the same. A "true" OG doesn't have any Kush characteristics (and is more sativa than indica, if any at all). There may be a "Bubba Kush", a cross between "Bubba" (or "Bubba Kush") and "OG Kush" (it's painful to type that), but it came about long after "Bubba Kush" was being used to describe plain old Bubba (not that she's "plain").
Velvet Elvis
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Hey James. I used to be an animal too. youre the first I met in years that researches strains and knows lineages like me. from what I can tell you only have a small grow too. man you are obsessed.
well this is my research and I believe this to be the troof! Professor P from Dynasty Genetics. also in Oregon
PRE 98 Bubba = Oregon Afghani clone...? I thought you might all want to know this info.......
After much contemplation of starting this thread(I have a feeling some Bubba lovers will be heartbroken), I decided to post it because I believe the PRE98 OG Bubba and Oregon Afghani are the same strain..
Please feel free to add any first hand information that you might have.
old hypothesis=
PRE98 Bubba is either an s1 or a clone of the Oregon Afghani clone that has been renamed (I personally think it's a renamed clone because they are exactly the same)
I'm not one for believing weed stories of clone only strains without proof, especially when I've seen first hand renaming in the Medical Dispensary era to try and gain sales with catchy names. I can't tell you how many strains I've come across that are the same as older cuts, but just have new names...
It's a pet-peeve of mine.... I think names should be kept the same for the integrity of cannabis' future...although, other people may believe in renaming strains to increase sales...
In the US people prefer to buy Kush over Afghani, it has been proven with dispensary sales.
My story;
In 1996 I was first introduced to the Oregon Afghani when a friend who I worked with turned me on to this strain. His father had this strain since late 1970s/early 80s. My friend claimed his Dad and hippy friends had acquired the afghani seeds while traveling on Dead tour in 1970s.
The dad and his friends always referred to this bud as Affy or Ghanni, never Afghani (at least back then). These guys grew the best weed I smoked at that point in time and really motivated me to step up my grows. After my first grow with her, I became uninterested in growing the Oregon Afghani due to it's super slow veg time because my grow situation at the time required faster vegging plants to keep the rotation on track.
After a number of years when my grow space increased, and I ended up acquiring the Oregon Afghani Clone as well as a strain called OG Bubba Kush from a different friend.
These strains were so similar that I opted to discontinue growing the OG Bubba because I could not tell the difference between the two(and I knew the source of the Oregon Afghani was legit). My friend who gave me the OG bubba swore that I mislabeled them, but I swore I did not.
To make sure they didn't get mixed up, again we got the Oregon Afghani clone from the source (old man hippy). Sure enough it was the same strain that I was familiarized with. hmmm... this is when I became suspicious (approx. 2002)
A number of years later I got back the "PRE98" OG Bubba from my friend who has been growing it since the first time I received the Bubba clone from him.
Conclusion;
After several grows, comparisons, and blind taste tests between friends we've all come to the conclusion that these are in fact the EXACT same genetics.
In the last year I have been seeding both the Ghanni and Bubba with the same males to see how similar the seeds are... You can't tell the difference.
It's kinda crazy... I feel like I just found out that Santa Clause was not real..
here are a few pics... I'll get some more evidence coming soon.
OREGON AFGHANI clone
old pic from years ago
well this is my research and I believe this to be the troof! Professor P from Dynasty Genetics. also in Oregon
PRE 98 Bubba = Oregon Afghani clone...? I thought you might all want to know this info.......
After much contemplation of starting this thread(I have a feeling some Bubba lovers will be heartbroken), I decided to post it because I believe the PRE98 OG Bubba and Oregon Afghani are the same strain..
Please feel free to add any first hand information that you might have.
old hypothesis=
PRE98 Bubba is either an s1 or a clone of the Oregon Afghani clone that has been renamed (I personally think it's a renamed clone because they are exactly the same)
I'm not one for believing weed stories of clone only strains without proof, especially when I've seen first hand renaming in the Medical Dispensary era to try and gain sales with catchy names. I can't tell you how many strains I've come across that are the same as older cuts, but just have new names...
It's a pet-peeve of mine.... I think names should be kept the same for the integrity of cannabis' future...although, other people may believe in renaming strains to increase sales...
In the US people prefer to buy Kush over Afghani, it has been proven with dispensary sales.
My story;
In 1996 I was first introduced to the Oregon Afghani when a friend who I worked with turned me on to this strain. His father had this strain since late 1970s/early 80s. My friend claimed his Dad and hippy friends had acquired the afghani seeds while traveling on Dead tour in 1970s.
The dad and his friends always referred to this bud as Affy or Ghanni, never Afghani (at least back then). These guys grew the best weed I smoked at that point in time and really motivated me to step up my grows. After my first grow with her, I became uninterested in growing the Oregon Afghani due to it's super slow veg time because my grow situation at the time required faster vegging plants to keep the rotation on track.
After a number of years when my grow space increased, and I ended up acquiring the Oregon Afghani Clone as well as a strain called OG Bubba Kush from a different friend.
These strains were so similar that I opted to discontinue growing the OG Bubba because I could not tell the difference between the two(and I knew the source of the Oregon Afghani was legit). My friend who gave me the OG bubba swore that I mislabeled them, but I swore I did not.
To make sure they didn't get mixed up, again we got the Oregon Afghani clone from the source (old man hippy). Sure enough it was the same strain that I was familiarized with. hmmm... this is when I became suspicious (approx. 2002)
A number of years later I got back the "PRE98" OG Bubba from my friend who has been growing it since the first time I received the Bubba clone from him.
Conclusion;
After several grows, comparisons, and blind taste tests between friends we've all come to the conclusion that these are in fact the EXACT same genetics.
In the last year I have been seeding both the Ghanni and Bubba with the same males to see how similar the seeds are... You can't tell the difference.
It's kinda crazy... I feel like I just found out that Santa Clause was not real..
here are a few pics... I'll get some more evidence coming soon.
OREGON AFGHANI clone
old pic from years ago
Afgan King
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Well I'm bout take cuts of it in the next couple weeks we'll see who gets some lol I already have @akhiymjames down on the list
akhiymjames
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Yea I'm a strain info junkie lol and a seed junkie too so forgive me. Yea my grows ain't closet no more lol but they not big. Just some nice size tents few 1k lights to do some good stuff but I know about this info too and was gonna post it but was waiting to see if someone else spoke of it. Lots of people recognize this to be true too especially coming from the Professor. Good posting this cus people will see when it comes to legendary phenos from back and there's not one definite story it's hard to believe any of themHey James. I used to be an animal too. youre the first I met in years that researches strains and knows lineages like me. from what I can tell you only have a small grow too. man you are obsessed.
well this is my research and I believe this to be the troof! Professor P from Dynasty Genetics. also in Oregon
PRE 98 Bubba = Oregon Afghani clone...? I thought you might all want to know this info.......
After much contemplation of starting this thread(I have a feeling some Bubba lovers will be heartbroken), I decided to post it because I believe the PRE98 OG Bubba and Oregon Afghani are the same strain..
Please feel free to add any first hand information that you might have.
old hypothesis=
PRE98 Bubba is either an s1 or a clone of the Oregon Afghani clone that has been renamed (I personally think it's a renamed clone because they are exactly the same)
I'm not one for believing weed stories of clone only strains without proof, especially when I've seen first hand renaming in the Medical Dispensary era to try and gain sales with catchy names. I can't tell you how many strains I've come across that are the same as older cuts, but just have new names...
It's a pet-peeve of mine.... I think names should be kept the same for the integrity of cannabis' future...although, other people may believe in renaming strains to increase sales...
In the US people prefer to buy Kush over Afghani, it has been proven with dispensary sales.
My story;
In 1996 I was first introduced to the Oregon Afghani when a friend who I worked with turned me on to this strain. His father had this strain since late 1970s/early 80s. My friend claimed his Dad and hippy friends had acquired the afghani seeds while traveling on Dead tour in 1970s.
The dad and his friends always referred to this bud as Affy or Ghanni, never Afghani (at least back then). These guys grew the best weed I smoked at that point in time and really motivated me to step up my grows. After my first grow with her, I became uninterested in growing the Oregon Afghani due to it's super slow veg time because my grow situation at the time required faster vegging plants to keep the rotation on track.
After a number of years when my grow space increased, and I ended up acquiring the Oregon Afghani Clone as well as a strain called OG Bubba Kush from a different friend.
These strains were so similar that I opted to discontinue growing the OG Bubba because I could not tell the difference between the two(and I knew the source of the Oregon Afghani was legit). My friend who gave me the OG bubba swore that I mislabeled them, but I swore I did not.
To make sure they didn't get mixed up, again we got the Oregon Afghani clone from the source (old man hippy). Sure enough it was the same strain that I was familiarized with. hmmm... this is when I became suspicious (approx. 2002)
A number of years later I got back the "PRE98" OG Bubba from my friend who has been growing it since the first time I received the Bubba clone from him.
Conclusion;
After several grows, comparisons, and blind taste tests between friends we've all come to the conclusion that these are in fact the EXACT same genetics.
In the last year I have been seeding both the Ghanni and Bubba with the same males to see how similar the seeds are... You can't tell the difference.
It's kinda crazy... I feel like I just found out that Santa Clause was not real..
here are a few pics... I'll get some more evidence coming soon.
OREGON AFGHANI clone
old pic from years ago
lots of the people are respected so what can you say really?? When I speak of Bubba Kush I speak of the big fat fan leaf Bubba Kush that has that coffee earthy dankness to it. Not lots of stretch and green. Have had Katsu and that's the purple but there are more than s1 cuts out there beside Katsu. I'm done talking about it tho like I said last time can go on and on about this just get me this Bubba Kush please or Katsu lol
akhiymjames
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And for shits and giggles here's what Orgnkid and his peeps say OG is
st0wandgrow
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Hey James. I used to be an animal too. youre the first I met in years that researches strains and knows lineages like me. from what I can tell you only have a small grow too. man you are obsessed.
well this is my research and I believe this to be the troof! Professor P from Dynasty Genetics. also in Oregon
PRE 98 Bubba = Oregon Afghani clone...? I thought you might all want to know this info.......
After much contemplation of starting this thread(I have a feeling some Bubba lovers will be heartbroken), I decided to post it because I believe the PRE98 OG Bubba and Oregon Afghani are the same strain..
Please feel free to add any first hand information that you might have.
old hypothesis=
PRE98 Bubba is either an s1 or a clone of the Oregon Afghani clone that has been renamed (I personally think it's a renamed clone because they are exactly the same)
I'm not one for believing weed stories of clone only strains without proof, especially when I've seen first hand renaming in the Medical Dispensary era to try and gain sales with catchy names. I can't tell you how many strains I've come across that are the same as older cuts, but just have new names...
It's a pet-peeve of mine.... I think names should be kept the same for the integrity of cannabis' future...although, other people may believe in renaming strains to increase sales...
In the US people prefer to buy Kush over Afghani, it has been proven with dispensary sales.
My story;
In 1996 I was first introduced to the Oregon Afghani when a friend who I worked with turned me on to this strain. His father had this strain since late 1970s/early 80s. My friend claimed his Dad and hippy friends had acquired the afghani seeds while traveling on Dead tour in 1970s.
The dad and his friends always referred to this bud as Affy or Ghanni, never Afghani (at least back then). These guys grew the best weed I smoked at that point in time and really motivated me to step up my grows. After my first grow with her, I became uninterested in growing the Oregon Afghani due to it's super slow veg time because my grow situation at the time required faster vegging plants to keep the rotation on track.
After a number of years when my grow space increased, and I ended up acquiring the Oregon Afghani Clone as well as a strain called OG Bubba Kush from a different friend.
These strains were so similar that I opted to discontinue growing the OG Bubba because I could not tell the difference between the two(and I knew the source of the Oregon Afghani was legit). My friend who gave me the OG bubba swore that I mislabeled them, but I swore I did not.
To make sure they didn't get mixed up, again we got the Oregon Afghani clone from the source (old man hippy). Sure enough it was the same strain that I was familiarized with. hmmm... this is when I became suspicious (approx. 2002)
A number of years later I got back the "PRE98" OG Bubba from my friend who has been growing it since the first time I received the Bubba clone from him.
Conclusion;
After several grows, comparisons, and blind taste tests between friends we've all come to the conclusion that these are in fact the EXACT same genetics.
In the last year I have been seeding both the Ghanni and Bubba with the same males to see how similar the seeds are... You can't tell the difference.
It's kinda crazy... I feel like I just found out that Santa Clause was not real..
here are a few pics... I'll get some more evidence coming soon.
OREGON AFGHANI clone
old pic from years ago
LOL! I was gonna post that info from Professor when this convo first kicked off....but didnt feel like adding to the already heated debate. I tend to believe Professor, as he seems like a straight shooter, but who knows really.
st0wandgrow
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That last pic looks a lot like what Afghan King has been posting. Not the typical "OG" nugs that we all recognize. Hmmmm
akhiymjames
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Exactly what I said lol I was waiting on someone else to say it before me lol I didn't wanna sound stupid lol but dude is good people. What can you say honestly funny too and Orgnkid from Oregon???
st0wandgrow
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We were chatting about this in the Dynasty thread months ago. He seems pretty convinced that they're one in the same.
And yeah, with Orgnkid being from there too it adds even more credibility to the story.
akhiymjames
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I seriously wouldn't doubt it. Stuff gets renamed all the time that's why a lot of these older great phenos have so many stories from passing and traveling. Who doesn't wanna have some say in something majority of people would like to have. I know whatever it is its def some of the best I've ever had. Man it makes my heart melt to think about all the zips of it I was getting lol so good.
Velvet Elvis
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That's what I don't get and adds to why I believed the matt berger story. They tag each other in all of it.
Are they being sarcastic?
Professor P is highly regarded. Old school breeder with fundamentals.
Are they being sarcastic?
Professor P is highly regarded. Old school breeder with fundamentals.