Led pictures...!

[Kingrow1]

Thanks to a few years of marketing strategy it seems over half of you guys and near enough all new growers now own and run leds.

Thats cool but if you post pictures no one can make anything out, looks like a purple plant in purple soil in a purple pot in a purple tent that Prince would like when he was going through a purple phase.

Its hard enough to see anything with an hps on in their orange glare but you guys are taking things to the next level with leds, total purple overkill.

Sorry but it had to be said

 

[Kingrow1]

This is my lemon kush at 8 weeks flower, running some cool leds, you can see by the buds shes easily gonna yeild a pound. The bottom leaves yellowing a bit but no worries as im harvesting tomorrow. I posted a pic below...

 

[Richard Drysift]

Not sure it's marketing strategy as much as it is price and availability. LEDs are just now becoming affordable for the home grower. Only trouble is there's a lot of crap for sale if you don't know what to buy or have a limited budget it's hard finding the right led to suit your needs.
I run LEDs as side lighting with an HPS as the main. Can't even really see them that well in the bloom room; gotta pull em out under a flourescent shop light to get a good look or take pics. That's why I hardly share any.
Anyway the LEDs really do help tighten up the buds especially when I aim it at the lowers where the HPS can't get to as well. I point my LEDs at targeted areas to try to make the lower buds almost as ripe as the top colas at harvest time.

 

[Kingrow1]

Not sure it's marketing strategy as much as it is price and availability. LEDs are just now becoming affordable for the home grower. Only trouble is there's a lot of crap for sale if you don't know what to buy or have a limited budget it's hard finding the right led to suit your needs.
I run LEDs as side lighting with an HPS as the main. Can't even really see them that well in the bloom room; gotta pull em out under a flourescent shop light to get a good look or take pics. That's why I hardly share any.
Anyway the LEDs really do help tighten up the buds especially when I aim it at the lowers where the HPS can't get to as well. I point my LEDs at targeted areas to try to make the lower buds almost as ripe as the top colas at harvest time.

Theres a lot of crap leds on the market because of their marketing strategy!

 

[Mr.Goodtimes]

Marketing doesn't make crap LEDs... China does

 

[Kingrow1]

Marketing doesn't make crap LEDs... China does

But marketing does sell them and in a market where i can make wild claims its not hard to see why China is doing a roaring trade....

 

[Cyrus420]

Define marketing.

From my understanding everything has a market, even the HID and COB systems that users recommend on this site. Hear say is a type of marketing so what type of marketing are you talking about?


This video made me rethink all the nay-say about LEDs. It's a harvest and lab test comparison between two grows who's only difference was the light used. Both seem to have minor advantages. I'm not saying all LEDs are this good but a well made one sure seems to be.

 

[Kingrow1]

Chill out Led warriors, just asking not to post pics with your leds on as no one can see anything worth looking at, this isnt another marketing strategy!

 

[HydroRed]

Ya, I can agree its hard to help anyone with pics of their plant under disco lights or under HPS with black interference bars running through the all yellow/orange pic.
Sometimes I dont think they even know what color their plants are lol

 

[Cyrus420]

Chill out Led warriors, just asking not to post pics with your leds on as no one can see anything worth looking at, this isnt another marketing strategy!

I'm not an LED Warrior, I'm still pretty unsure about them myself.

But could you at least explain what you mean by marketing strategy? You keep throwing the word around but haven't clarified for us what you mean by it.

 

[Redishx]

Same can be said about pics with the hps on though. I agree though, if your gonna post a pic w a question turn off the light regardless of what it is. I love my Mars light. But I only grow 1-3 plants in a tight space for personal use. So to each their own!

 

[Kingrow1]

I'm not an LED Warrior, I'm still pretty unsure about them myself.

But could you at least explain what you mean by marketing strategy? You keep throwing the word around but haven't clarified for us what you mean by it.

What led unit did you go for?

 

[Kingrow1]

Same can be said about pics with the hps on though. I agree though, if your gonna post a pic w a question turn off the light regardless of what it is. I love my Mars light. But I only grow 1-3 plants in a tight space for personal use. So to each their own!

I get offered a lot of mars lights by new growers here trying to swap them for my hps. I believe their true wattage is just over half their marketed wattage but i dont follow the led market as much as i did a few years back.

 

[dabbindylan]

Led rule...ill try anything once if the price is right

 

[Cyrus420]

What led unit did you go for?

I didn't, I have a 250W HID System with an open reflector now.

I was looking at the Mars/Galaxy Hydro 300W and 600W model after watching a grow on Youtube make some good looking bud with them.

Are you going to tell me about the marketing?

 

[MisterBlah]

lol, marketing strategy.

Most LEDs are more efficient. LEDs are more customizable. LEDs are more reliable. LEDs last longer. LEDs have a cheaper lifecycle cost.

None of those things have to do with marketing. They all have to do with the facts of LEDs. Ask ANY engineer. They'd love to tell you about LEDs because LEDs are in fact the cream of the crop when it comes to high volume production lighting technologies.

The reason you see purple pictures is due to discrete spectrum red and blue LEDs being more common than broad white spectrum LEDs. It all boils down to a specification called the Color Rendering Index. 100 means it is an equal CRI to the sun. I have a 300W LED fixture in my garage that I use for general purpose shop lighting for projects that is a high CRI, above 95, I believe. So, all the colors I see when working on something will look almost exactly the same under that light as they will outside. A yellow/orange HPS or red/blue LED will have super low CRIs. HPS below 80 usually. But, you can combine discrete LEDs to improve your CRI a lot.

 

[HydroRed]

LEDs are more reliable.

I dont know about all that. Reliability is something that I dont think anyone can knock about HID lighting. I've been using HID lighting for DECADES and it has been everything but unreliable. Thats a pretty bold statement considering that LED havent been around or in use nearly as long as HID to give such a bold and blanketed reply. Even when bought from the same chinese vendors, I would trust the reliability of an HPS light over an LED light any day, and there are too many threads on here regarding burned out led's and drivers right from the box, or within months of initial use. Cant say I see too many of those threads regarding HID lighting.This thread wasnt created to debate led vs hid, but rather to let people know to stop taking pictures of their sick plants under purple led's and orange hid's and asking "whats wrong with my plant -HELP".

 

[needynate]

• my first grow ever and with led's. I use spydrx plus led's from fluence bioengineering formally known as bml. .

 

[Kingrow1]

lol, marketing strategy.

Most LEDs are more efficient. LEDs are more customizable. LEDs are more reliable. LEDs last longer. LEDs have a cheaper lifecycle cost.

None of those things have to do with marketing. They all have to do with the facts of LEDs. Ask ANY engineer. They'd love to tell you about LEDs because LEDs are in fact the cream of the crop when it comes to high volume production lighting technologies.

The reason you see purple pictures is due to discrete spectrum red and blue LEDs being more common than broad white spectrum LEDs. It all boils down to a specification called the Color Rendering Index. 100 means it is an equal CRI to the sun. I have a 300W LED fixture in my garage that I use for general purpose shop lighting for projects that is a high CRI, above 95, I believe. So, all the colors I see when working on something will look almost exactly the same under that light as they will outside. A yellow/orange HPS or red/blue LED will have super low CRIs. HPS below 80 usually. But, you can combine discrete LEDs to improve your CRI a lot.

I avoided answering because it was what the thread was like, full spectrum white leds would be my choice over the crappy red/blue leds and 1000w led is more like 500w true watts. Tbh the marketing is just the overpriced tat they want you to buy and decent growers will build their own.