EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

ttystikk

ttystikk

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I think I'm gonna start printing tee shirts;

Front;
Proud Sandernista! Feelin' the Bern!

Back;
Freedom Fighter for the anti-corporate revolution!
 
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schuylaar

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Uncle Ben said:
I certainly hope so but it's a toss up between a clown totally out of touch with reality and a con.

Based on his track record, Bernie is not qualified to do much of anything. He's a blowhard appealing to leeches and sucker bets.
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Thank you for being our court jester, Ben:clap:..now you can disappear for a week again.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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londonfog said:
yup. Guy never apologize for his vote. He did admit that he knew it would imprison your blacks and hispanics but still voted yes.
Hey you a smart person. How many delegates did Bernie gain tonight ? He was down 287
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"With that mixed record, people are sure to draw differing conclusions about whether Clinton was justified in signing the bill and Sanders in voting for it. But seeing the full record in historical context, it’s hard to argue that anyone had a callous disregard for black lives in pursuing the legislation.

No question certain policies had terrible impacts, and we need to learn from those failures. Fortunately, many federal and state government officials have; since 2000, incarceration rates are down 22 percent among African-American men and 47 percent for African-American women.

Both of today’s Democratic candidates say that they have learned from the past as well, and have policy platforms to prove it. Should they be forever tarnished when compromise legislation doesn’t work as they had hoped?"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/02/22/dont_punish_clinton_sanders_for_1994_crime_bill_129729.html


What was the percentage of support from African Americans for the 1994 crime bill?


You're implying he voted yes despite the fact it would negatively affect minorities. That's the part that is disingenuous, and that's where I lose a lot of respect for you. You know for a fact he didn't vote yes even though he knew it would negatively affect minorities, he voted yes because he supported the assault weapons ban and the violence against women act, both of which decreased violence across the board, including for minorities. US drug policy, the rate of poverty and other socioeconomic factors are primarily responsible for the discrepancies in incarceration rates and those were in place long before the crime bill came up for a vote, and long before Sanders voted on it and president Clinton signed it with Hillary's support.

Both candidates supported the bill, yet you only criticize Sanders' vote on it to imply he doesn't like minorities. If minorities don't like Sanders for voting yes on that bill, why would they like Hillary Clinton for supporting it or president Clinton for signing it? You realize Bill Clinton had some of the highest approval ratings from the black community, right? Your argument is inconsistent on top of being disingenuous.


How about Clinton's support for DOMA or "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"? I guess that means she hates the LGBT community, right?
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Padawanbater2 said:
"With that mixed record, people are sure to draw differing conclusions about whether Clinton was justified in signing the bill and Sanders in voting for it. But seeing the full record in historical context, it’s hard to argue that anyone had a callous disregard for black lives in pursuing the legislation.

No question certain policies had terrible impacts, and we need to learn from those failures. Fortunately, many federal and state government officials have; since 2000, incarceration rates are down 22 percent among African-American men and 47 percent for African-American women.

Both of today’s Democratic candidates say that they have learned from the past as well, and have policy platforms to prove it. Should they be forever tarnished when compromise legislation doesn’t work as they had hoped?"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/02/22/dont_punish_clinton_sanders_for_1994_crime_bill_129729.html


What was the percentage of support from African Americans for the 1994 crime bill?


You're implying he voted yes despite the fact it would negatively affect minorities. That's the part that is disingenuous, and that's where I lose a lot of respect for you. You know for a fact he didn't vote yes even though he knew it would negatively affect minorities, he voted yes because he supported the assault weapons ban and the violence against women act, both of which decreased violence across the board, including for minorities. US drug policy, the rate of poverty and other socioeconomic factors are primarily responsible for the discrepancies in incarceration rates and those were in place long before the crime bill came up for a vote, and long before Sanders voted on it and president Clinton signed it with Hillary's support.

Both candidates supported the bill, yet you only criticize Sanders' vote on it to imply he doesn't like minorities. If minorities don't like Sanders for voting yes on that bill, why would they like Hillary Clinton for supporting it or president Clinton for signing it? You realize Bill Clinton had some of the highest approval ratings from the black community, right? Your argument is inconsistent on top of being disingenuous.


How about Clinton's support for DOMA or "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"? I guess that means she hates the LGBT community, right?
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I bring up Bernie vote when you try to drag Clinton for her comments.. He said that he saw the dangers of what the bill would do. Some parts he like, some he did not. He did nothing to change any. He voted yes. You can't hate Clinton for her super predator remark but give Bernie a pass. One did apologize the other stand behind his vote.
 
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Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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londonfog said:
I bring up Bernie vote when you try to drag Clinton for her comments.. He said that he saw the dangers of what the bill would do. Some parts he like, some he did not. He did nothing to change any. He voted yes. You can't hate Clinton for her super predator remark but give Bernie a pass. One did apologize the other stand behind his vote.
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When did I say anything about her super predator remark?

My main criticism of her, and why I won't vote for her this election, is because of her ties to Wall St. and financial institutions. Something Sanders has been consistent on. Her refusal to regulate the financial industry and reinstate Glass-Steagall.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Padawanbater2 said:
When did I say anything about her super predator remark?

My main criticism of her, and why I won't vote for her this election, is because of her ties to Wall St. and financial institutions. Something Sanders has been consistent on. Her refusal to regulate the financial industry and reinstate Glass-Steagall.
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Out of all the BernieBabies you might be the only one to take the time to read this. Tells why some people don't care for Bernie
https://medium.com/@robinalperstein/on-becoming-anti-bernie-ee87943ae699#.luu6pq2xu
 
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