Joe goes organic

[Joe Blows Trees]

Yeah, it's like a holding spot until I see the growth taking off and then it's to the veg room. I'm going to put a custom table in there soon to keep them up off the floor and cut down on how much I have to clean.

 

[Joe Blows Trees]

Veggies are coming along nicely
Pepper

Cherry tomatoes

The rest including watermelon, cucumber, cabbage, lettuce, kale, spinach, and okra. They'll be put out hopefully this weekend and get a nice starter tea for a healthy beginning. Gotta finish the cage to keep the pesky squirrels out of the garden.

 

[greasemonkeymann]

Transplanted both purple haze plants today: Transplant height 3' 2" (38")

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I get to see how well my soil mix will do. They are going into week three of 120+ day bloom.

I also transplanted the clones today. Hope to find a suitable mother plant for the Hindu kush and purple haze.

damn dude... you like your sativas!
that grinspoon is a beast man... be prepared to flower that one all winter
legendary smoke though

 

[Joe Blows Trees]

I just put the second Dr Grinspoon into the bloom room last weekend @greasemonkeymann

I like having variety. Sativas give me that boost to get through the day and indicas help me rest up for the next day.

 

[greasemonkeymann]

I just put the second Dr Grinspoon into the bloom room last weekend @greasemonkeymann

I like having variety. Sativas give me that boost to get through the day and indicas help me rest up for the next day.

so like September or so you'll get to harvest, let that one ripen, I know of a guy that did his and he said it took damn near 140 days to fully ripen
maybe a 11 or 10 hr day may hasten it, but those equatorial strains like INTENSE light, when I was doing a couple southern Mexican strains I noticed a quicker maturation when I used at least a 2/1 ratio of HPS to metal halide, optimally a 1/1 is even better.
Keep in mind that was noticed with two different sativas (so that was hardly a scientific experiment, rather a simple observation), that southern Mexican, and a Kali, both took over 110 days to mature.
with pure HPS it never really seemed to finish, just sorta quasi foxtailed these tiny ass nugs
that Kali was stony as hell though, very visual. Sorta made the room seems like it had damp strands of spider webs glistening, really weird, and I've had that experience before, with a Vietnamese strain, and a thai strain too, both pure sativas of course.
BUT.... that Kali? got over 7 feet tall, and yielded like 1.5 oz. stretched from 18" to seven feet. No joke. I measured 18" between the biggest nodes. Insane.
And that was when it was outside on top of a BRIGHT ass hill in CA. So no shortage of light there...

 

[DonBrennon]

so like September or so you'll get to harvest, let that one ripen, I know of a guy that did his and he said it took damn near 140 days to fully ripen
maybe a 11 or 10 hr day may hasten it, but those equatorial strains like INTENSE light, when I was doing a couple southern Mexican strains I noticed a quicker maturation when I used at least a 2/1 ratio of HPS to metal halide, optimally a 1/1 is even better.
Keep in mind that was noticed with two different sativas (so that was hardly a scientific experiment, rather a simple observation), that southern Mexican, and a Kali, both took over 110 days to mature.
with pure HPS it never really seemed to finish, just sorta quasi foxtailed these tiny ass nugs
that Kali was stony as hell though, very visual. Sorta made the room seems like it had damp strands of spider webs glistening, really weird, and I've had that experience before, with a Vietnamese strain, and a thai strain too, both pure sativas of course.
BUT.... that Kali? got over 7 feet tall, and yielded like 1.5 oz. stretched from 18" to seven feet. No joke. I measured 18" between the biggest nodes. Insane.
And that was when it was outside on top of a BRIGHT ass hill in CA. So no shortage of light there...

I've got a few wild thai that I wanna run, mainly for some pollen chucking, indoors in a 7 ft tall tent, but with lights, pot height and extraction, that's around 4 feet for the plant

Do you think I'd be best letting the seedlings mature, taking a cutting and flowering that once it's established and like only 8-10 inches tall? or am I pissing in the wind trying to flower these in a tent, trying to figure out how I'm gonna flower these, never done a pure sativa before.

 

[DonBrennon]

I've got a few wild thai that I wanna run, mainly for some pollen chucking, indoors in a 7 ft tall tent, but with lights, pot height and extraction, that's around 4 feet for the plant

Do you think I'd be best letting the seedlings mature, taking a cutting and flowering that once it's established and like only 8-10 inches tall? or am I pissing in the wind trying to flower these in a tent, trying to figure out how I'm gonna flower these, never done a pure sativa before.

I'm actually thinking of some kind of trellis across the back of my tent now and training them somehow.

 

[greasemonkeymann]

I've got a few wild thai that I wanna run, mainly for some pollen chucking, indoors in a 7 ft tall tent, but with lights, pot height and extraction, that's around 4 feet for the plant

Do you think I'd be best letting the seedlings mature, taking a cutting and flowering that once it's established and like only 8-10 inches tall? or am I pissing in the wind trying to flower these in a tent, trying to figure out how I'm gonna flower these, never done a pure sativa before.

well... flowering a grinspoon in an area with 4 feet of room is gonna be a BITCH...
you're gonna want to train that bitch right now, a friend of mine would do that and horizontally grow them, bend the main stem horizontally and hang weights off them to keep it growing that way.
yield will be down, flowering time goes up, but the smoke is nice (from what I hear, never sampled myself)

to be frank with you?
You probably won't do it again, but it is worth the experience. Well worth the experience, just a lil too much trouble for the overall outcome.
but in the end it's like nothing you have sampled before.
Like dating Latinas... uhh well in my experience anyways..

 

[Joe Blows Trees]

I trained my second Dr Grinspoon because those purple haze plants tripled in height and my 12/12 Grinspoon almost tripled as well, although the 12/12 is a much more manageable height. The Jamaican Pearl also came close to tripling in height as well and it's supposed to be 85% sativa.

I will admit that the Dr Grinspoon and purple haze plants are finicky with feeding and watering but I'm going to eventually find the sweet spot as I continue to grow these strains. I really think the 12/12 Grinspoon is root bound and all my 12/12 seeds will be in 2 or more gallon pots from now on.

I put my 600 watt MH in the bloom room so now my plants get HPS, MH, and led lighting. Hope the diversity in lighting brings out colors.

 

[greasemonkeymann]

I trained my second Dr Grinspoon because those purple haze plants tripled in height and my 12/12 Grinspoon almost tripled as well, although the 12/12 is a much more manageable height. View attachment 3674352 The Jamaican Pearl also came close to tripling in height as well and it's supposed to be 85% sativa.

I will admit that the Dr Grinspoon and purple haze plants are finicky with feeding and watering but I'm going to eventually find the sweet spot as I continue to grow these strains. I really think the 12/12 Grinspoon is root bound and all my 12/12 seeds will be in 2 or more gallon pots from now on.

I put my 600 watt MH in the bloom room so now my plants get HPS, MH, and led lighting. Hope the diversity in lighting brings out colors.

hmmmm... my spidey-sense tells me that that plant is a lil unhappy...
Doesn't look over fed, but those leaves are clawing.
mites getting to it?
if you don't live or sleep in your garden area (or share the air) go get some dichlorvos strips to hang in there. turn off your lights for 30 hrs straight (don't worry) and turn ALL exhaust fans off, and depending on the room size either hang one or two strips.
after 30 hrs all adult mites will be dead, then turn your lights back on for 4-5 days, and then do it again.
if your mites are REALLY bad you may need to do this procedure three times.
and then after all that's over, as preventative maintenance you want to hang a strip once every two weeks for the first month of flowering.
trust me, i'd say with confidence that I have THE most experience battling mites... which sucks to have that dubious title.
But that's the beauty of having a grow-shed in the middle of a redwood forest, that has like 4 types of spider mites in it.

 

[Joe Blows Trees]

I just sprayed again for mites two days ago and was gonna spray again tomorrow. If I see anymore activity after this next treatment, I'll do what you've suggested @greasemonkeymann

I'm leaning to root bound since it's in a one gallon pot and my other plants I started from 12/12 in one gallon pots are also unhappy and autumning off faster than I would like.

 

[Vnsmkr]

hi

hi joe, i notice that dead stem left in the pot with that seedling, about 14yrs ago i used to do that all the time, leaving dead stems & root masses in a pot while growing out other plants next to it, an experienced market gardener warned me that certain bad fungus problems may arise from this practice, i dismissed his view as BS cos i had been doing it for yrs...UNTIL...some weird fungal disease struck me, it is a form of root/stem rot that i cannot eradicate(im outdoors), in those yrs this fungal prob has claimed well over 10,000 beans, sometimes i still lose 75% of my grow, its costing me easily $3000 in antifungal mycorrhizae treatments per season alone, it is by far the worst plant disease syndrome ive ever encountered, this disease has cost me a fortune & a huge amount of effort to try to keep it under control, im considering moving away from my place JUST because of this disease

Sounds like some serious SHIT dude, literally. Wow huh. I guess there is a valid reason after all why I pull the plant up root mass and all when they are done.

 

[Vnsmkr]

I just sprayed again for mites two days ago and was gonna spray again tomorrow. If I see anymore activity after this next treatment, I'll do what you've suggested @greasemonkeymann

I'm leaning to root bound since it's in a one gallon pot and my other plants I started from 12/12 in one gallon pots are also unhappy and autumning off faster than I would like.

I have always had mites in some part of my garden for the last 10 or so years as I grow veggies, herbs, cannabis all together in something similar to a no till. This year I added neem cake pellets into my mix before planting and that seemed to be the key (at least for me). I added roughly 2 handfulls into each 5 gallon pot and I dont have any mite problem. Also helps if you have the ability too, to plant basil, mints, herbs etc as mites dont seem to like those terpy plants around and will stay away from these too.

 

[greencropper]

Sounds like some serious SHIT dude, literally. Wow huh. I guess there is a valid reason after all why I pull the plant up root mass and all when they are done.

that root rot is still here, if i miss 1 mycorrhizal watering before they are 3' high the disease will kill them, or stunt them so much only a few grams of bud per plant results, i must use the mycorrhizal treatment in 'every' watering, up past $4000 now for this treatment alone this season ...its as bad as any fictional curse for sure

 

[Vnsmkr]

that root rot is still here, if i miss 1 mycorrhizal watering before they are 3' high the disease will kill them, or stunt them so much only a few grams of bud per plant results, i must use the mycorrhizal treatment in 'every' watering, up past $4000 now for this treatment alone this season ...its as bad as any fictional curse for sure

have you looked in treating the whole area with LAB's/EM bokashi/grokashi, etc. Is there not an option other than what you are doing?

 

[Vnsmkr]

or Rent yourself a backhoe and get some new soil in there, that would be cheaper option wouldnt it?

 

[greencropper]

have you looked in treating the whole area with LAB's/EM bokashi/grokashi, etc. Is there not an option other than what you are doing?

i dont know what to do really, living in a very remote area, ive contacted various myco manufacturers and most agree its very difficult to eradicate the bug once an area is infected, they are not telling me much as i guess they are happy im buying their product, i may have to try to find a scientific lab that will test a soil sample if i post it to them i think

 

[Vnsmkr]

i dont know what to do really, living in a very remote area, ive contacted various myco manufacturers and most agree its very difficult to eradicate the bug once an area is infected, they are not telling me much as i guess they are happy im buying their product, i may have to try to find a scientific lab that will test a soil sample if i post it to them i think

Mix up a shitload of LAB's and dump that shit around the area man......http://www.hawaiihealingtree.org/how-to-make-your-own-em-1-inoculant-and-bokashi/ or http://theunconventionalfarmer.com/

 

[Vnsmkr]

i dont know what to do really, living in a very remote area, ive contacted various myco manufacturers and most agree its very difficult to eradicate the bug once an area is infected, they are not telling me much as i guess they are happy im buying their product, i may have to try to find a scientific lab that will test a soil sample if i post it to them i think

exactly they are happy with the cash! At least give the LAB's a go, I would think that they would be very beneficial for this

 

[Vnsmkr]

And it dont cost shit