KickToTheHead
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I've been here reading about all the hate towards Miracle Grow. That shit works great for me. Why do some of you dis it?
To All You MG Haters.
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OregonMeds
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Because it has chemicals in it that are not good for you and because it is far less than ideal in many other ways too. It's not ph buffered so it can make your soil swing wildly in ph and make it lock up, doesn't have all the micronutrients we need, and is easy to screw up with and doesn't work as good as proper nutes.
Sure it works, but you do get what you pay for and that stuff is cheap.
Having said that I'm using MG soil and shultz cheap food atm too and sure I'm growing fine with it, but I hope to not be growing or smoking stuff with that in it as soon as I have the money to go back to better nutrients.
I notice a big difference using these cheap ferts and soil versus the good stuff I used in the past. Don't like it at all.
Sure it works, but you do get what you pay for and that stuff is cheap.
Having said that I'm using MG soil and shultz cheap food atm too and sure I'm growing fine with it, but I hope to not be growing or smoking stuff with that in it as soon as I have the money to go back to better nutrients.
I notice a big difference using these cheap ferts and soil versus the good stuff I used in the past. Don't like it at all.
MrFishy
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Since learning how to use MG's Moisture Control Soil w/up-to-90 day time release fert polymors, I've never been able to grow more easily. Don't never have to add nothin' but molasses and maybe a little more nitrogen towards the end. Great growth and my best harvests ever.
Two things. This stuff'll burn some strains up pretty quick and never buy this soil if the bags have been previously wet . . . there shouldn't be any liquid oozing out of the air holes. Previously saturated bags mean dissolved polymors, and thus, way too hot soil.
I worked w/Scotts on why this happened to me and figured out the answer. W-Mart had stored the bags outdoors. It's funny. Scotts (MG) sent me a check/refund and I went and bought the same damn, fresh and properly moistened, soil!
If things go as well on my current grow as it did on my last (and first w/MG) using this stuff, I'll never use anything else.
Two things. This stuff'll burn some strains up pretty quick and never buy this soil if the bags have been previously wet . . . there shouldn't be any liquid oozing out of the air holes. Previously saturated bags mean dissolved polymors, and thus, way too hot soil.
I worked w/Scotts on why this happened to me and figured out the answer. W-Mart had stored the bags outdoors. It's funny. Scotts (MG) sent me a check/refund and I went and bought the same damn, fresh and properly moistened, soil!
If things go as well on my current grow as it did on my last (and first w/MG) using this stuff, I'll never use anything else.
OregonMeds
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I have a question for others who are using the mg soil with the time release stuff while we are on the subject...
I got a little nute deficiency with one plant. The one I'm counting on next for smoke. It's probably micronutrients locked out was my thought, and I traced it to low ph in the soil, so I flushed (like mad) and now I think those time release capsules have time released all at once and I have minor nute burn on leaf tips and a good amount or leaf curling. (this is after flush with water only) My soil is nearing 3 months old in this plant so I would have thought past the time the capsules are supposed to be effective anyway.
Has anyone had this problem and found a way around it? I don't want to flush again if flushing is what caused all those capsules to let go and risk making it worse.
My plan at this point is to just let it be and hope it works itself out and doesn't get worse but I'm also in my first week of flowering and don't want all that N in the soil so am I stuck like I think I am?
I got a little nute deficiency with one plant. The one I'm counting on next for smoke. It's probably micronutrients locked out was my thought, and I traced it to low ph in the soil, so I flushed (like mad) and now I think those time release capsules have time released all at once and I have minor nute burn on leaf tips and a good amount or leaf curling. (this is after flush with water only) My soil is nearing 3 months old in this plant so I would have thought past the time the capsules are supposed to be effective anyway.
Has anyone had this problem and found a way around it? I don't want to flush again if flushing is what caused all those capsules to let go and risk making it worse.
My plan at this point is to just let it be and hope it works itself out and doesn't get worse but I'm also in my first week of flowering and don't want all that N in the soil so am I stuck like I think I am?
mockingbird131313
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I have used many "plain" soils and added Miracle-Gro Azalea food. It is designed for "acid loving" plants. Someone in the newby section ask why I would call pot (cannabis) acid loving? Was I a moron?
Well M-G Azalea works for me. I don't want to hear from anyone that thinks cannabis is a "regular" plant. Believe what you wish. But, M-G Azalea works great for me and is almost as cheap as mud.
Well M-G Azalea works for me. I don't want to hear from anyone that thinks cannabis is a "regular" plant. Believe what you wish. But, M-G Azalea works great for me and is almost as cheap as mud.
misshestermoffitt
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I like Miracle grow too. I use the African violet food 7-7-7 for veg and am using the rose food 18-24-16 for flower.
I think it is a matter of opinion. I think some people don't like it because they let their soil get to dry between waterings and then the roots and plant get burnt.
I've never tried the soil, probably because I like my soil plain so I can feed what I want.
I'm also a huge fan of Superthrive .
I think it is a matter of opinion. I think some people don't like it because they let their soil get to dry between waterings and then the roots and plant get burnt.
I've never tried the soil, probably because I like my soil plain so I can feed what I want.
I'm also a huge fan of Superthrive .
misshestermoffitt
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I asked you that and I never called you a moron, but thanks for saying I did. I appreciate it.
Don't believe this guy, he's making shit up !
PS people are always freaking out about their PH level, acidic plant food will screw that up even worse.
Baz
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npk 15-30-15
OregonMeds
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He probably meant figuratively, not literally.
misshestermoffitt, I completely agree on using plain soil and not the time release stuff. I just used this because it's what was left in the garage from house plants.
If anyone gets anything from this thread at least think about never using the time release soil and just using the food only if you want too.
But my problem still exists that I posted above and am hoping there might be some trick someone might know about to fix it.
Add dolomite lime rather than flush if ph is off is what I'm thinking but it's too late for that now in my case.
But is there a way to make nitrogen and other nutes the capsules have released leave the soil other than more flushing? Maybe something that only partly binds with nitrogen to keep it unusable?
misshestermoffitt, I completely agree on using plain soil and not the time release stuff. I just used this because it's what was left in the garage from house plants.
If anyone gets anything from this thread at least think about never using the time release soil and just using the food only if you want too.
But my problem still exists that I posted above and am hoping there might be some trick someone might know about to fix it.
Add dolomite lime rather than flush if ph is off is what I'm thinking but it's too late for that now in my case.
But is there a way to make nitrogen and other nutes the capsules have released leave the soil other than more flushing? Maybe something that only partly binds with nitrogen to keep it unusable?
mockingbird131313
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First I did not referrence you here. This is what you said to me then. You were polite, and so was my response.
Originally Posted by misshestermoffitt
I didn't think Marijuana was an acid loving plant.
2. The ph should be between 6.5 and 7.5 since marijuana does not do well in acidic soil. High acidity in soil encourages the plant to be predominantly male, an undesirable trait.
entire article here Guide to Growing Marijuana
Do you get a high number of males in your crops?
What I said today was with regard to someone else who was over-the-top. Regardless, most people believe cannabis is acid loving and no I do not grow many males.
Connoisseur177
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I SMH at this thread...call me a hater all you want..
SHAKE MY HEAD... MG is not the way 2 gro.. i mean go.. but we all must learn at our own speed
SHAKE MY HEAD... MG is not the way 2 gro.. i mean go.. but we all must learn at our own speed
mane2008
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weezer
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if it made you confused ,how do you think the rest of us fell ha haDamn all this slang, got me confused
whats SMH