I am an ordained reverend and was in christian ministry for 7 and a half years. I was the youth pastor and youth worship leader. I was on the worship team for the church; on the prayer team, attended bible study every Tuesday and Thursday night, worship practice every Monday night, helped watch the children every Saturday night for Saturday night service and back at it the next Sunday. We did regular outreach, and I was also sent by my pastors to many different conferences and even lived with my pastors for 5 of the 7 and a half years. I can tell you now, there is NO proof for the existence of any god. I am now an Anti-theist. ghostdriver, the burden of proof is on you. You claim the existence of god but will repeatedly quote a book written by man and the only book written by man that claims the things that it does. There is nothing glorious or holy about the character in said book called god; nor jesus, nor the holy spirit. It is a horrible story written poorly and meant to instill fear in the earliest of people and the feeblest of minds to gain control. A story fed to a bunch of people likely asking 3 questions; who am I?, where did I come from?, and what happens after I die?. I liken this debate to the early holy men and shaman tossing human sacrifices into volcanoes trying to get the rain gods to bring rain. (christians) and now we know way better. We understand meteorology and weather patterns due to atmospheric pressure. (non-believers). Rubbish, let us pursue a better way than religion. It has failed the people for years and offers no real answers.