mollasses,super thrive and microbes

[sbhippie]

transplanting useing roots organics oregonism XL then watering with mollases and super thrive to activate the microbes and fungi im stepping my game up this year and are using alot of products i did without in the past so i have a few questions, can i mix the molasses and superthrive in the same gallon of water and do u guys think a 30 gallon smart pot is big enough

 

[Rasta Roy]

Yeah you can mix them, what are you growing in homie? I would use the super thrive pretty sparingly with how expensive it is, like 1/4 Tablespoon a gallon. Honestly I would ditch the super thrive and just get a bag of Alfalfa Meal personally. It's cheaper and the benefits are fresh, not bottled. But that's imo you can grow however you want.

 

[Resinhound]

1/4 tablespoon really?? More like a few drops,and I wouldn't use it more than once or twice.Overloading with synthetic hormones is a sure way to Jack up a plant in a hurry.

 

[Rasta Roy]

1/4 tablespoon really?? More like a few drops,and I wouldn't use it more than once or twice.Overloading with synthetic hormones is a sure way to Jack up a plant in a hurry.

My bad auto correct on my phone and im doing two things at once and not proof reading. I meant teaspoon lol. Also I said I wouldn't use it in my opinion. But if you want to use chemicals that your choice.

 

[greasemonkeymann]

transplanting useing roots organics oregonism XL then watering with mollases and super thrive to activate the microbes and fungi im stepping my game up this year and are using alot of products i did without in the past so i have a few questions, can i mix the molasses and superthrive in the same gallon of water and do u guys think a 30 gallon smart pot is big enough

if you are looking for microbes to inoculate your media i'd go with a fresh worm casting tea, with a speck of molasses.
not sure if superthrive is good for microbes or not.
also if your plant is outside and in good light, a 30 gallon won't be enough, well in California anyways.
for outdoor plants, especially big yielders, and especially in organics, i'd go with at least a 50 gal.
I've used all sorts of sizes and almost always, when it comes to outside, bigger is better.
EDIT-- let me clarify, a 30 gallon WILL work, but you will get bigger and better results in a larger container.
I mean I've grown outside plants in 15 gals before, works fine, you just get less plant..

 

[Rasta Roy]

Superthrive won't kill your microbes it's just kind of redundant if you're growing organic because you should be using kelp and alfalfa meal in your mix anyways and that's all superthrive is just in a bottle and not as beneficial. Plus way more expensive.

 

[Wetdog]

Superthrive won't kill your microbes it's just kind of redundant if you're growing organic because you should be using kelp and alfalfa meal in your mix anyways and that's all superthrive is just in a bottle and not as beneficial. Plus way more expensive.

Yeah, the *secret* ingredient in superthrive is Trican????? found in alfalfa. Plus, you get all the other good stuff alfalfa offers for ~$15/50lb bag. Kelp meal brings even more to the table.

Wet

 

[greasemonkeymann]

Superthrive won't kill your microbes it's just kind of redundant if you're growing organic because you should be using kelp and alfalfa meal in your mix anyways and that's all superthrive is just in a bottle and not as beneficial. Plus way more expensive.

yea but ya never know..
good ole tim the microbe man said even fish hydrosylate lowers microbe numbers
and I KNOW whats in that.. who knows whats in superthrive
past b vitamins and triacantrol

 

[GoRealUhGro]

yea but ya never know..
good ole tim the microbe man said even fish hydrosylate lowers microbe numbers
and I KNOW whats in that.. who knows whats in superthrive
past b vitamins and triacantrol

Reallu?...why does tim say this

 

[greasemonkeymann]

Reallu?...why does tim say this

I don't know, his microscope is what indicated that.
apparently kelp meal inhibits microbial growth too.
Doesn't kill anything, but does slow down the rate.
I recommend keeping nutrient teas, and microbial teas separate, they do different things

 

[GoRealUhGro]

I hear that u shod add the kelp to ur teas at the end because of this...I have been doing it to my teas since then

 

[sbhippie]

I don't know, his microscope is what indicated that.
apparently kelp meal inhibits microbial growth too.
Doesn't kill anything, but does slow down the rate.
I recommend keeping nutrient teas, and microbial teas separate, they do different things

I just read it slows microbes but feeds the fungi

 

[greasemonkeymann]

I just read it slows microbes but feeds the fungi

right, another reason to keep microbial teas, and nutrient teas apart.
fungal teas, bacterial teas, and microbe teas are different, and therefore should be used separate
in my opinion.

 

[GoRealUhGro]

So making a balanced tea doesn't work as well as making separate teas for a spicific reason

 

[sbhippie]

right, another reason to keep microbial teas, and nutrient teas apart.
fungal teas, bacterial teas, and microbe teas are different, and therefore should be used separate
in my opinion.

So I shouldn't us the superthrive with the organism XL? Or should I since it does have beneficial fungi also

 

[Velvet Elvis]

superthrive is also B vitamins for transplant shock. good stuff, but dont use in flower. snap crackle pops in finished product

 

[sbhippie]

Yeah you can mix them, what are you growing in homie? I would use the super thrive pretty sparingly with how expensive it is, like 1/4 Tablespoon a gallon. Honestly I would ditch the super thrive and just get a bag of Alfalfa Meal personally. It's cheaper and the benefits are fresh, not bottled. But that's imo you can grow however you want.

I'm growing in soil and I add alfalfa to my soil mix

 

[sbhippie]

if you are looking for microbes to inoculate your media i'd go with a fresh worm casting tea, with a speck of molasses.
not sure if superthrive is good for microbes or not.
also if your plant is outside and in good light, a 30 gallon won't be enough, well in California anyways.
for outdoor plants, especially big yielders, and especially in organics, i'd go with at least a 50 gal.
I've used all sorts of sizes and almost always, when it comes to outside, bigger is better.
EDIT-- let me clarify, a 30 gallon WILL work, but you will get bigger and better results in a larger container.
I mean I've grown outside plants in 15 gals before, works fine, you just get less plant..

I use a worm casting tea also and ya were I'm ate our grow season season is a month shorter then northern Cali last year I was getting 1/2 to a pound using 25 gallon plastic pots with no bottoms in them

 

[GoRealUhGro]

Did you hav a lot of roots growing into the ground?

 

[sbhippie]

Did you hav a lot of roots growing into the ground?

Nope that was the odd thing no root bound and stocks the size of a soda can thought for shore they would be root bound well they were a lil bit but not bad at all